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    Seedy WANTED $1,243
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    For Xbob……

     

     

     

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    #88266
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
    Outlaw

    These pictures really don’t show up well on a phone. ?

    Maybe it’s because we’re all stupid here. ?

    #88273
    eejit101 WANTED $312
    Outlaw

    Slots are rigged. and thoseimages are awesome(x)

    #88276
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
    Outlaw

    We’re agreed then. Slots are rigged.

    Whats next on the agenda?

    #88296
    Winningbird WANTED $574
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    Rbreen91 wrote:

    These pictures really don’t show up well on a phone. ?

    Maybe it’s because we’re all stupid here. ?

    I was about to say the same thing haha.

    Fyi slots are rigged. Someone told me so on here. Must be true ?

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    #88299
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
    Outlaw

    Winningbird wrote:

    Rbreen91 wrote:

    These pictures really don’t show up well on a phone. ?

    Maybe it’s because we’re all stupid here. ?

    I was about to say the same thing haha.

    Fyi slots are rigged. Someone told me so on here. Must be true ?

    Definitely rigged! ??

    #89607
    SlotsCrack WANTED $62
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    Rbreen91 wrote:

    Biohazard wrote:

    Slots are rigged.

    How so? Is it through AI?

    Not AI, but more like, “Big data” gathered by providers / game dev’s. Personalised gaming. Knowing your breaking point. Knowing what to throw at you that hauls you over into your next deposit. All well perfectly crafted, in order to suck you pretty much in deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole.

    Lets say if i present you a slot of 100% RTP, and you play with 50 bucks, i could continuously give you small wins just enough to match my 100% RTP, and still make you lose everything you have. How many times did you deposit 50, played your 50, and end back on 50, to withdrawl that same 50? Chances are 9 to 10 times you dont. You continue. That is what we’re seeing more and more these days, which is granting the casino’s and providers more profit.

    On paper they could argue look this player did had a 100% RTP!!!!111 But the reality is that you lost your deposit and only had (useless) playing time for whatever it lasted.

    When i play a slot i always think in money in vs money out. Not what i wagered. At the end of the day we could wager into oblivious and still not hit a withdrawl. You get where i’m going?

    All slots simply follow a predefined mathematics. This ensures the thing operates within ‘spec’ as intended and grants both casino and provider their cut. Sometimes it occurs that a slot might be too lose, has an exploit (on which i personally myself found on a very populair one too) or is changed over time in favor of new games. BTG’s bonanza is a perfect example of this. It’s RTP and gameplay (bonusses) got tanked.

    In comparison to landbased machines, online slots have a far higher volatility, which eats bankrolls for breakfast. The other side of the medaillon is that the payout can also be extreme. One thing is for sure; all casino’s are set to such a way for you to bet more risky’er in order to obtain big or bigger wins. I’m sure the bandit could testify for this.

     

     

    #89629
    Biohazard WANTED $675
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    Hey @SlotsCrack – some of the items you’ve raised are valid, whilst some are incorrect.

    Casinos no doubt use big data and tactical marketing techniques to draw in their customers. And online slots generally are more volatile than land-based.

    However, your RTP example doesn’t make much sense. If the player was averaging 100% RTP on a slot in a given session, then they would be at exactly their starting balance – they can’t have lost money versus their starting balance at that moment in time. This is because RTP is calculated based on total won / total wagered.

    SlotsCrack wrote:

    All slots simply follow a predefined mathematics. This ensures the thing operates within ‘spec’ as intended and grants both casino and provider their cut.

    Could you clarify what you mean by this?

    #89635
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    Biohazard wrote:

    Hey @SlotsCrack – some of the items you’ve raised are valid, whilst some are incorrect.

    Casinos no doubt use big data and tactical marketing techniques to draw in their customers. And online slots generally are more volatile than land-based.

    However, your RTP example doesn’t make much sense. If the player was averaging 100% RTP on a slot in a given session, then they would be at exactly their starting balance – they can’t have lost money versus their starting balance at that moment in time. This is because RTP is calculated based on total won / total wagered.

    SlotsCrack wrote:

    All slots simply follow a predefined mathematics. This ensures the thing operates within ‘spec’ as intended and grants both casino and provider their cut.

    Could you clarify what you mean by this?

    Does this guy think this was a serious post? ????

    #89683
    eejit101 WANTED $312
    Outlaw

    Not AI, but more like, “Big data” gathered by providers / game dev’s. Personalised gaming. Knowing your breaking point. Knowing what to throw at you that hauls you over into your next deposit. All well perfectly crafted, in order to suck you pretty much in deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole. Casinos do keep and track data. But on players, deposits, and by the CRM in order to get your loyalty.

    Lets say if i present you a slot of 100% RTP, and you play with 50 bucks, i could continuously give you small wins just enough to match my 100% RTP, and still make you lose everything you have. How many times did you deposit 50, played your 50, and end back on 50, to withdrawl that same 50? Chances are 9 to 10 times you dont. You continue. That is what we’re seeing more and more these days, which is granting the casino’s and providers more profit. Umm. No. Thats not possible. each spin is a random occurence. Ive seen this and there are countless posts from people who both build the games, play the games, and have seen how they work.

    On paper they could argue look this player did had a 100% RTP!!!!111 But the reality is that you lost your deposit and only had (useless) playing time for whatever it lasted. No, as Bio said 100% RTP would leave a starting balance.

    When i play a slot i always think in money in vs money out. Not what i wagered. At the end of the day we could wager into oblivious and still not hit a withdrawl. You get where i’m going? This makes sense.

    All slots simply follow a predefined mathematics. This ensures the thing operates within ‘spec’ as intended and grants both casino and provider their cut. Sometimes it occurs that a slot might be too lose, has an exploit (on which i personally myself found on a very populair one too) or is changed over time in favor of new games. BTG’s bonanza is a perfect example of this. It’s RTP and gameplay (bonusses) got tanked. Bonanza did not get “tanked”. Thats not possible. Its checked. A lot. They run sims of 1billion-10billion spins to test this randomly. As they only have 1 “version” as BTG only offers 96% RTP this is simple. As for the exploit… come on? Which one?

    In comparison to landbased machines, online slots have a far higher volatility, which eats bankrolls for breakfast. The other side of the medaillon is that the payout can also be extreme. One thing is for sure; all casino’s are set to such a way for you to bet more risky’er in order to obtain big or bigger wins. I’m sure the bandit could testify for this. No. Gambling is set for you to bet more riskier. Having slots like DOA2 paying out 10k on a 9c bet is quite the opposite. I play those games lower than normal.

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