Are streamers getting too greedy?

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  • #54214
    awesomex WANTED $136
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    It’s a lot more about what they can afford due to affiliation. If they spend €1000 in deposits on a video, you can be damn sure they make twice that off of making the video.
    It started off small for everyone, with the 60p stakes, but then as they started making money through affiliation, they could afford to up their stakes. Now that they make a living off of it while playing €5 stakes, it’s what I would expect them to play at. After all, they’re gamblers, and they don’t just play for the videos, they play because they like it. If they play 60p stakes and win 1000x, it’s “only” 600 euros. 600 euros is nice for most, but it’s not got the same oomph as 5000 euros, which attracts more viewers to their youtube channels, which then in return gives more potential customers through affiliation. The €5 standard is simply because there’s wagering attached to most deposits, as streamers usually play with a 100% bonus on most deposits. The exception now is Swedish streamers. They don’t get bonuses anymore. I know CasinoDaddy is playing with bonuses still, but that’s from casinos that don’t have a Swedish license.

    #54225
    eejit101 WANTED $312
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    awesomex wrote:

    It’s a lot more about what they can afford due to affiliation. If they spend €1000 in deposits on a video, you can be damn sure they make twice that off of making the video. It started off small for everyone, with the 60p stakes, but then as they started making money through affiliation, they could afford to up their stakes. Now that they make a living off of it while playing €5 stakes, it’s what I would expect them to play at. After all, they’re gamblers, and they don’t just play for the videos, they play because they like it. If they play 60p stakes and win 1000x, it’s “only” 600 euros. 600 euros is nice for most, but it’s not got the same oomph as 5000 euros, which attracts more viewers to their youtube channels, which then in return gives more potential customers through affiliation. The €5 standard is simply because there’s wagering attached to most deposits, as streamers usually play with a 100% bonus on most deposits. The exception now is Swedish streamers. They don’t get bonuses anymore. I know CasinoDaddy is playing with bonuses still, but that’s from casinos that don’t have a Swedish license.

    True, but they do get cash rebates and the ability to play with internal funds in sweden. We have one casino doing exactly that.

    #54247
    Dune2000 WANTED $205
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    eejit101 wrote:

    Reminds me of a oceans 11 quote – Cause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet big, then you take the house.

     

    However yes other streamers follow each other. Its alot easier when its bonus funds every time they deposit with max cashouts for them and losses per month covered up to a certain amount as long as they dont bet more than 5 Euros a spin. Makes you think huh ?

     

    Bonus funds, maximum cashouts and losses covered ????

    Well that certainly explains to

    me how streamers can afford their losses, their not actually losing a lot of the time.

    which makes the bull crap some of them come out with about just being regular slot players a bit laughable.

    Got to give them kudos for initiative however

    #54274
    thunderball6 WANTED $272
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    The games were not as good a few years ago, there wasn’t as much potential . Then the games started getting better.  Not many streamers even now will do high stakes on net ent games .

    #54303
    argyl53 WANTED $419
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    The Bandit wrote:

    Roedgaard72 wrote:

    I assume the play within their means. As for Nick he is part of a multi million business (not trying to defend). What I find strange is the streamers that started out saying the play at 1£ stake because people can relate to that and 1 year later they play 5-40£ spins regulary and even 100£ spins on BOD (yes some sites allows that).

    The “you used to play 60p” is often thrown at me. Here are my own reasons. When i started, there was Nick, Kim, Paul and David (Slot win) that was pretty much it, the norm was 60p, i had very little experience on online slots outside of Raging Rhino and Bruce Lee, both of which i used to regularly play on way higher stakes up to as much as £9 odd on Bruce. I spent the first few months of my channel learning games, learning what to expect, what to chase, what not to chase, even doing this at 60p stake left me in a £24k down hole! I raised the stake one day, all the way up to £1.80 and bang, i had a £3,700+ win on Game of Thrones. That led me to place my norm at £1.50 – £2 and tbh to this day, my norm stake is still around £2/3

     

    I’ll try to articulate why I enjoy the videos at £2 stakes and not the ones at £30, £40 stakes. Although £2 is a little bit higher than I typically played at (unless I’d had a good day and got my balance up to around a grand), it’s very relatable to watch. I can feel the same excitement when you hit a Captain Venture bonus on that stake as I did when I was playing. It gives me the same rushes, the same fulfilment of sensation as I’d get from playing myself. I can empathize and picture it being me celebrating a 500x feature win, or being annoyed that the gamble lost or whatever.

    When the balance is £70k and it’s £40 a spin, or a £2k feature buy, for me it’s like I might as well be watching a video of someone on free play using pretend money. The bets don’t even matter at that kind of balance. There’s no feeling of jeopardy or consequence, no thrill of success. It’s like playing poker with matchsticks, I don’t care if I lose matchsticks, I’ll make completely different bets, calls and bluffs than I would if it was real money at stake.

    So the entertainment for me in watching a streamer is at a particular stake range I feel I can relate to. If it’s outside that, i might as well just load up High Voltage on demo mode and bash it at £20 a spin….matchsticks.

    #54314
    Dune2000 WANTED $205
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    argyl53 wrote:

    The Bandit wrote:

    Roedgaard72 wrote:

    I assume the play within their means. As for Nick he is part of a multi million business (not trying to defend). What I find strange is the streamers that started out saying the play at 1£ stake because people can relate to that and 1 year later they play 5-40£ spins regulary and even 100£ spins on BOD (yes some sites allows that).

    The “you used to play 60p” is often thrown at me. Here are my own reasons. When i started, there was Nick, Kim, Paul and David (Slot win) that was pretty much it, the norm was 60p, i had very little experience on online slots outside of Raging Rhino and Bruce Lee, both of which i used to regularly play on way higher stakes up to as much as £9 odd on Bruce. I spent the first few months of my channel learning games, learning what to expect, what to chase, what not to chase, even doing this at 60p stake left me in a £24k down hole! I raised the stake one day, all the way up to £1.80 and bang, i had a £3,700+ win on Game of Thrones. That led me to place my norm at £1.50 – £2 and tbh to this day, my norm stake is still around £2/3

     

    I’ll try to articulate why I enjoy the videos at £2 stakes and not the ones at £30, £40 stakes. Although £2 is a little bit higher than I typically played at (unless I’d had a good day and got my balance up to around a grand), it’s very relatable to watch. I can feel the same excitement when you hit a Captain Venture bonus on that stake as I did when I was playing. It gives me the same rushes, the same fulfilment of sensation as I’d get from playing myself. I can empathize and picture it being me celebrating a 500x feature win, or being annoyed that the gamble lost or whatever.

    When the balance is £70k and it’s £40 a spin, or a £2k feature buy, for me it’s like I might as well be watching a video of someone on free play using pretend money. The bets don’t even matter at that kind of balance. There’s no feeling of jeopardy or consequence, no thrill of success. It’s like playing poker with matchsticks, I don’t care if I lose matchsticks, I’ll make completely different bets, calls and bluffs than I would if it was real money at stake.

    So the entertainment for me in watching a streamer is at a particular stake range I feel I can relate to. If it’s outside that, i might as well just load up High Voltage on demo mode and bash it at £20 a spin….matchsticks.

    I wish I could articulate it that well

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