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[Dynamik23 WANTED $82 Outlaw]

Seedy wrote:

Dynamik23 wrote:

Haz40 wrote:

Dynamik23 wrote:

So you believe dealers on minimum wage can spin sections at will?

I’ve been told by more than one source at the nearest casino to me which is only a small not very busy casino within 3 weeks they can spin a section if required. I trust my source completely.

Well your source is a moron. I argue with so many dealers who believe they can spin sections because most truly believe that if they are “stuck” in a section they can get out of it. It’s old school thinking. Remember GREED is the problem with this world so why would any dealer work the shit conditions they do for the shit money they do it for when they could make a really quick buck dealing to a friend? I’m not gonna bother anymore because the moment people believe minimum wage dealers can spin sections or numbers it’s already over.

Hi dynamic I wouldnt say you’re average Joe spinner can but there are definitely skilled individuals out there. And those people definitely are not on minimum wage.

Okay. If this is the case they would be millionaires living in Barbados not dealing to high rollers who can call them worse than shit at 3am. I’ll put it this way. Most roulette wheels are 80cm in circumference so imagine you straitened that out. Average revolutions for dealers is 30 so for a dealer to be able to spin with such accuracy they would have to throw a ball 100+ feet and land it in a small section of say 15 numbers. Now factor in the dominant diamonds that disrupt the balls drop and a metal wheel spinning in the opposite direction. Not a single person in the world can purposely spin sections. I would bet my life my child’s life that if you told that dealer to spin tier as much as possible over the course of 10000 spins it would be near bang on what it’s supposed to be.

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

Innit wierd that people who work or have worked in the casino industry, constantly denie with all their might that certain games aren’t rigged.

 

[Seedy WANTED $1,244 Sheriff]

Just Basics wrote:

Innit wierd that people who work or have worked in the casino industry, constantly denie with all their might that certain games aren’t rigged.

 

They could just be telling the truth though mate. ??? morning btw JB ?

[Seedy WANTED $1,244 Sheriff]

Dynamik23 wrote:

Seedy wrote:

Dynamik23 wrote:

Haz40 wrote:

Dynamik23 wrote:

So you believe dealers on minimum wage can spin sections at will?

I’ve been told by more than one source at the nearest casino to me which is only a small not very busy casino within 3 weeks they can spin a section if required. I trust my source completely.

Well your source is a moron. I argue with so many dealers who believe they can spin sections because most truly believe that if they are “stuck” in a section they can get out of it. It’s old school thinking. Remember GREED is the problem with this world so why would any dealer work the shit conditions they do for the shit money they do it for when they could make a really quick buck dealing to a friend? I’m not gonna bother anymore because the moment people believe minimum wage dealers can spin sections or numbers it’s already over.

Hi dynamic I wouldnt say you’re average Joe spinner can but there are definitely skilled individuals out there. And those people definitely are not on minimum wage.

Okay. If this is the case they would be millionaires living in Barbados not dealing to high rollers who can call them worse than shit at 3am. I’ll put it this way. Most roulette wheels are 80cm in circumference so imagine you straitened that out. Average revolutions for dealers is 30 so for a dealer to be able to spin with such accuracy they would have to throw a ball 100+ feet and land it in a small section of say 15 numbers. Now factor in the dominant diamonds that disrupt the balls drop and a metal wheel spinning in the opposite direction. Not a single person in the world can purposely spin sections. I would bet my life my child’s life that if you told that dealer to spin tier as much as possible over the course of 10000 spins it would be near bang on what it’s supposed to be.

I get it may seem pretty impossible but if a dealer could hit that section at a 15 to 20% higher than average accuracy that’s a damn impressive feat. And there are people out there with very good weird and different skills ??

Obviously I can appreciate your opinion on this aswell. ??

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Seedy wrote:

Dynamik23 wrote:

Seedy wrote:

Dynamik23 wrote:

Haz40 wrote:

Dynamik23 wrote:

So you believe dealers on minimum wage can spin sections at will?

I’ve been told by more than one source at the nearest casino to me which is only a small not very busy casino within 3 weeks they can spin a section if required. I trust my source completely.

Well your source is a moron. I argue with so many dealers who believe they can spin sections because most truly believe that if they are “stuck” in a section they can get out of it. It’s old school thinking. Remember GREED is the problem with this world so why would any dealer work the shit conditions they do for the shit money they do it for when they could make a really quick buck dealing to a friend? I’m not gonna bother anymore because the moment people believe minimum wage dealers can spin sections or numbers it’s already over.

Hi dynamic I wouldnt say you’re average Joe spinner can but there are definitely skilled individuals out there. And those people definitely are not on minimum wage.

Okay. If this is the case they would be millionaires living in Barbados not dealing to high rollers who can call them worse than shit at 3am. I’ll put it this way. Most roulette wheels are 80cm in circumference so imagine you straitened that out. Average revolutions for dealers is 30 so for a dealer to be able to spin with such accuracy they would have to throw a ball 100+ feet and land it in a small section of say 15 numbers. Now factor in the dominant diamonds that disrupt the balls drop and a metal wheel spinning in the opposite direction. Not a single person in the world can purposely spin sections. I would bet my life my child’s life that if you told that dealer to spin tier as much as possible over the course of 10000 spins it would be near bang on what it’s supposed to be.

I get it may seem pretty impossible but if a dealer could hit that section at a 15 to 20% higher than average accuracy that’s a damn impressive feat. And there are people out there with very good weird and different skills

A magician perhaps? ??

[Li Liberty WANTED $132 Outlaw]

I can’t argue with your latest statement. I understand why you look at that video and think magnets /rigged.

Personally I think it’s unlikely but not impossible. Without fully inspecting the roulette wheel while it’s doing crazy spins I will concede there might be magnets. I don’t think it’s likely, more likely than us descending from Adam and Eve and way less likely than the world being round.

Anyhow, now you’ve removed the 100% fact from it and it becomes opinion it takes away my incessant need to argue the point lol. You say you strongly think there are magnets or something else, I say I strongly think there aren’t. The end imo.

Can we try to move the conversation onto AI? I’m interested in how that part of it would go

[Dynamik23 WANTED $82 Outlaw]

Seedy wrote:

Dynamik23 wrote:

Seedy wrote:

Dynamik23 wrote:

Haz40 wrote:

Dynamik23 wrote:

So you believe dealers on minimum wage can spin sections at will?

I’ve been told by more than one source at the nearest casino to me which is only a small not very busy casino within 3 weeks they can spin a section if required. I trust my source completely.

Well your source is a moron. I argue with so many dealers who believe they can spin sections because most truly believe that if they are “stuck” in a section they can get out of it. It’s old school thinking. Remember GREED is the problem with this world so why would any dealer work the shit conditions they do for the shit money they do it for when they could make a really quick buck dealing to a friend? I’m not gonna bother anymore because the moment people believe minimum wage dealers can spin sections or numbers it’s already over.

Hi dynamic I wouldnt say you’re average Joe spinner can but there are definitely skilled individuals out there. And those people definitely are not on minimum wage.

Okay. If this is the case they would be millionaires living in Barbados not dealing to high rollers who can call them worse than shit at 3am. I’ll put it this way. Most roulette wheels are 80cm in circumference so imagine you straitened that out. Average revolutions for dealers is 30 so for a dealer to be able to spin with such accuracy they would have to throw a ball 100+ feet and land it in a small section of say 15 numbers. Now factor in the dominant diamonds that disrupt the balls drop and a metal wheel spinning in the opposite direction. Not a single person in the world can purposely spin sections. I would bet my life my child’s life that if you told that dealer to spin tier as much as possible over the course of 10000 spins it would be near bang on what it’s supposed to be.

I get it may seem pretty impossible but if a dealer could hit that section at a 15 to 20% higher than average accuracy that’s a damn impressive feat. And there are people out there with very good weird and different skills

Obviously I can appreciate your opinion on this aswell.

Listen I fully understand your position on the matter. I was a dealer who believed I could spin sections. I can’t. It comes back to the same thing. If a dealer could do that 15-20% idea then they ain’t a dealer no more, they are living the dream.

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A few casinos in Asia’s gaming capital of Macau have recently begun using AI to better understand the gamblers that enter their doors. Things like cameras equipped with facial recognition, smart chips, and digitally enabled tables can help track every bet a customer makes.

This new technology uses algorithms that help analyze the betting habits of customers. Do they play conservative or like to take big risks? Are they the type of the gambler who loses a hundred dollars at blackjack then hits the buffet or one who will play all day and drop tens of thousands? This type of information can help a casino decide who to offer big-time perks and give special attention to.

This is just one example of Casino’s using Artificial Intelligence. I will give more as the thread continues….

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

A casino’s main goal is to get as much of your money as possible. All the fancy rooms, restaurants and décor are just window dressing to get you to play at their tables. While they have been using technology to enhance security for years, casinos are starting to turn to artificial intelligence in an attempt to increase their bottom line.

Its so obvious that certain online casinos have this technology already in place to fool the customer. It’s here, it’s being used, and it’s being used fraudulently to manipulate and con.

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

But hey ho…..as we all know!

Self proclaimed laws and terms and conditions will be put in place to cover their scummy practices.

[Dynamik23 WANTED $82 Outlaw]

Just Basics wrote:

A few casinos in Asia’s gaming capital of Macau have recently begun using AI to better understand the gamblers that enter their doors. Things like cameras equipped with facial recognition, smart chips, and digitally enabled tables can help track every bet a customer makes.

This new technology uses algorithms that help analyze the betting habits of customers. Do they play conservative or like to take big risks? Are they the type of the gambler who loses a hundred dollars at blackjack then hits the buffet or one who will play all day and drop tens of thousands? This type of information can help a casino decide who to offer big-time perks and give special attention to.

This is just one example of Casino’s using Artificial Intelligence. I will give more as the thread continues….

I think it’s very clever by them to use AI in this way and I think its ethical as long as it doesn’t cause players to gamble more than they are willing to lose. If the perks are things that give the customer more enjoyment for their money and makes them want to choose that specific casino over another casino then fine. However will it be used to prey on the weak and vulnerable? In Asia I would say yes. In the UK I would hope not considering how geared towards safer gambling the government is and tbf the casinos are. Casinos honestly don’t want to ruin people’s lives because there are repercussions for them, be it fines or loss of action from other customers. A casino wants players to have fun, win big occasionally and choose them over their competition.

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And this leads directly to my previous points. Why would a casino who already have a huge edge. Then implement other things to have a greater edge?

Greed.

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

Dynamik23 wrote:

Just Basics wrote:

A few casinos in Asia’s gaming capital of Macau have recently begun using AI to better understand the gamblers that enter their doors. Things like cameras equipped with facial recognition, smart chips, and digitally enabled tables can help track every bet a customer makes.

This new technology uses algorithms that help analyze the betting habits of customers. Do they play conservative or like to take big risks? Are they the type of the gambler who loses a hundred dollars at blackjack then hits the buffet or one who will play all day and drop tens of thousands? This type of information can help a casino decide who to offer big-time perks and give special attention to.

This is just one example of Casino’s using Artificial Intelligence. I will give more as the thread continues….

I think it’s very clever by them to use AI in this way and I think its ethical as long as it doesn’t cause players to gamble more than they are willing to lose. If the perks are things that give the customer more enjoyment for their money and makes them want to choose that specific casino over another casino then fine. However will it be used to prey on the weak and vulnerable? In Asia I would say yes. In the UK I would hope not considering how geared towards safer gambling the government is and tbf the casinos are. Casinos honestly don’t want to ruin people’s lives because there are repercussions for them, be it fines or loss of action from other customers. A casino wants players to have fun, win big occasionally and choose them over their competition.

Your complete faith in billion dollar industries astounds me.

[Li Liberty WANTED $132 Outlaw]

I think most people would agree that casinos want to extract as much as possible from their punters. That they monitor your movements and deposits around their sites and try to entice you back with user specific promos.

They also use the same technique to identify problem gamblers and make contact with them altho I’m sure only a slightly cynical mind would think they do this to cover their own backs and also to make it seem like the tech they are adding is to help players rather than try to efficiently fleece them.

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Just Basics wrote:

I am not here to change my own way of feeling about this wheel. My mind is already made up. So don’t try to change my opinion about this certain subject. I will simply never backtrack.

And alas, we arrive at the key problem with this forum.

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