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21st January 2020 at 9:46 am #89011
Bandit back in the day was a Top Bloke, highly entertaining, he had a passion for the videos and created content. Couple of years down the line, you can see the passion has gone (trolling doesn’t help) more importantly he has become UNRELATABLE as the stakes are too high.
In the beginning a high stakes video were entertaining (happily admit) however after ”The Reel King” hits it all became about the money and he lost his enthusiasm for the slots, this comes across in the videos and the lack of content these days. He may blame time, BUT its his audience/following that enabled him/given him the platform to be as big as he is.
People drastically underestimate how much he ACTUALLY earns from his affiliation, its monstrous!! Bandit has the largest amount of entries on any giveaway we’re talking 1000’s every month (look at the end of his videos, all can be seen) Bandit is literally making 1000’s, if not £10,000’s per month and his loyal fan base are not given content… you can be the judge whether that ois acceptable and what continue to support him gives.
Bandit has a tough few months ahead of him, he needs to reignite what he loved about slotting and forget about the business side of his channel,but at the same time evolve, what else can he offer? We don’t want to see him on low crappy stakes (he for sure wont enjoy it, this comes across in his videos) high stakes are killing his audience as he has no respect for money and people just cant relate.
I for one have nothing but good intentions and love for the Bandit he has provided me with countless of hours entertainment for free, truly hopes he can navigate these next few months with clarity and purpose hopefully evolving the channel. Just throwing the idea out there for a LIVE stream perhaps once a week? you may extract pleasure from interacting with your supporters, playing at low to mid low stakes who knows? (certainly be cheaper for you)
Anyways, Bandit, if you read this, good luck, hope you can shift this dark cloud that looms over you and the channel.
DW
6421st January 2020 at 10:15 am #89033It’s very easy; he has to do absolutely nothing. He has no obligations against anyone, signed up through his link or not. If you don’t like it anymore, move on?
21st January 2020 at 10:31 am #89034Ha ha the bandits got a tough few months ahead off him , not on 10k a month he’s not ?
21st January 2020 at 10:37 am #89035Actually if he only got 10k a month , it’s not that great is it . Look how much he has to give out in prize money .
121st January 2020 at 1:29 pm #89037You see actually, “Bandit’s Problem” unfortunately stems from threads such as this, emails like this, messages like this, tweets like this – but if i try and answer one of them then God help me, i’m being “defensive” i’m being “patronising”, i’m “talking down to the people that made me” jesus wept, no actually, what i am doing is answering a question.
Lets start here – my channel is the size it is, doing as well or as badly as it is, because of me. It is down to the content i post, if my content was shit, there wouldn’t be any subs. I do not charge to watch my videos, the folk that always say “we made you what you are” – no i’m sorry, you really didn’t, you were a contributing factor of course you were but come on – i made me what i am by producing stuff people like to watch. Of course i am grateful for people subbing to the channel but why are they subbed, because they want to be notified of when i put my next video up.
When you have an audience of 200k for example, that is the unique visit number across my platforms so is an educated guess, it isn’t exact so let’s not twist any words, but when you have this kind of following, you are going to get plenty of people inside that number that don’t like you, like to give you a bit of shit, lets class that as 1% of those people, very conservatively that is…. that is 2000 people trolling/threatening/messaging shite etc – when people say ahh just ignore it, it’s not possible.
Affiliation is great money and i have always said it is… IF… you could do it without any expenses, you can’t – it costs a shit ton, my monthly expenses just for this channel and website is 5 figures – 5 figures. That includes staff wages, yes, i have staff and their related PAYE and pension contributions, no shit. The part of this post that is just pie in the sky is the giveaway part, i get 1000’s of entries every month apparently, you do realise that i get paid once, for a player, one time, one off and that is it – at most of my casinos. There is no rev share, i’ve lost count of how many times i have had this same discussion but guess what, that doesn’t matter because it just doesn’t fit the persons point. Furthermore, 3 out of 4 of my giveaways are open to people whether they used my link or not, what do you think i get paid for the people that didn’t use my link? £0. Lets break down the current prize draw entries and i will tell you on each casino how many people have actually signed up this month.
Bet Victor – 246
So, BV, there are 246 entries, how many of these entries are new, well so far this month 45 people have registered at Bet Victor through my link, 33 of those have gone on to make a deposit. I get a CPA at Bet Victor, this is a one time payment per player and it is based on a wagering requirement, if the person doesn’t hit a certain level of wagering, the CPA payment is not triggered. So you can guarantee, of those 33, they won’t all trigger – i can actually tell you that as it stands, 28 payments have triggered. So you see 246 entries and think wow that is a lot of money, i have received a payment this month for 28 of them, everyone else is existing and make £0 for me.
Paddy Power
So, PP, there are 329 entries, how many are new….. 16 – that is sixteen. Again, i only receive a CPA here, no revenue share so a one time payment per player of which, 13 have triggered this month. 329 entries, some of which won’t even be through my link which is fine for this one, 13 payments.
Betfair
Ok so Betfair, it says 255 – the new entries account for 11 (Eleven) – Again, no revenue share here, a one time CPA (Cost per acquisition) and 12 payments have actually triggered this month so i would imagine that means one person from last month completed the criteria but from 329 entries, i have 12 payments.
Videoslots
Lastly, VS, anyone can enter this one regardless of using my link and it has always been that way, there are 429 entries in this one, 39 of those are new players through my link but again here, there is a requirement of wagering they must hit in order to trigger the payment i receive, i have a hybrid deal here, that means i get a smaller CPA and a revenue share, it has always been that way but let me give you an actual, up to the day report on the revenue share side of this account right now…its £0. It is actually minus 2k but will just be £0 – they don’t take money off you in that way. Out of the 39 new people, currently 20 payments have triggered.
Right, lets look at that all added together, 1259 entries in to my giveaways. 99 actual new players for me. 73 payments. £0 revenue
Can you see now how this kind of post is my problem?
One of the replies that says i have to do nothing, if i do nothing, there simply are none or very few new sign ups and as i have gone on and on and on about in loads of replies in the past, i don’t have a revenue share that actually produces a decent revenue share anywhere, no casino. I do a video when i want to play, if i don’t want to play then i don’t do one. Sometimes i can’t do one because i have a ban, like now, i am banned from YouTube, where do i put a video? I have tried loads of different places and there is always something that doesn’t quite fit. I’m not a streamer so i don’t want to stream, as i have said, time and again.
I don’t have any tough months ahead, i could turn it all off tomorrow if i really wanted too but i will always gamble so why should i, 99% of my following love to see a video whenever that video may pop up, i don’t play to a schedule, i don’t stream 5 times a week on a time table, i’m not a business.
The only dark cloud remains peoples huge misunderstandings.
422821st January 2020 at 1:46 pm #8903921st January 2020 at 2:59 pm #89041You see actually, “Bandit’s Problem” unfortunately stems from threads such as this, emails like this, messages like this, tweets like this – but if i try and answer one of them then God help me, i’m being “defensive” i’m being “patronising”, i’m “talking down to the people that made me” jesus wept, no actually, what i am doing is answering a question.
Lets start here – my channel is the size it is, doing as well or as badly as it is, because of me. It is down to the content i post, if my content was shit, there wouldn’t be any subs. I do not charge to watch my videos, the folk that always say “we made you what you are” – no i’m sorry, you really didn’t, you were a contributing factor of course you were but come on – i made me what i am by producing stuff people like to watch. Of course i am grateful for people subbing to the channel but why are they subbed, because they want to be notified of when i put my next video up.
When you have an audience of 200k for example, that is the unique visit number across my platforms so is an educated guess, it isn’t exact so let’s not twist any words, but when you have this kind of following, you are going to get plenty of people inside that number that don’t like you, like to give you a bit of shit, lets class that as 1% of those people, very conservatively that is…. that is 2000 people trolling/threatening/messaging shite etc – when people say ahh just ignore it, it’s not possible.
Affiliation is great money and i have always said it is… IF… you could do it without any expenses, you can’t – it costs a shit ton, my monthly expenses just for this channel and website is 5 figures – 5 figures. That includes staff wages, yes, i have staff and their related PAYE and pension contributions, no shit. The part of this post that is just pie in the sky is the giveaway part, i get 1000’s of entries every month apparently, you do realise that i get paid once, for a player, one time, one off and that is it – at most of my casinos. There is no rev share, i’ve lost count of how many times i have had this same discussion but guess what, that doesn’t matter because it just doesn’t fit the persons point. Furthermore, 3 out of 4 of my giveaways are open to people whether they used my link or not, what do you think i get paid for the people that didn’t use my link? £0. Lets break down the current prize draw entries and i will tell you on each casino how many people have actually signed up this month.
Bet Victor – 246
So, BV, there are 246 entries, how many of these entries are new, well so far this month 45 people have registered at Bet Victor through my link, 33 of those have gone on to make a deposit. I get a CPA at Bet Victor, this is a one time payment per player and it is based on a wagering requirement, if the person doesn’t hit a certain level of wagering, the CPA payment is not triggered. So you can guarantee, of those 33, they won’t all trigger – i can actually tell you that as it stands, 28 payments have triggered. So you see 246 entries and think wow that is a lot of money, i have received a payment this month for 28 of them, everyone else is existing and make £0 for me.
Paddy Power
So, PP, there are 329 entries, how many are new….. 16 – that is sixteen. Again, i only receive a CPA here, no revenue share so a one time payment per player of which, 13 have triggered this month. 329 entries, some of which won’t even be through my link which is fine for this one, 13 payments.
Betfair
Ok so Betfair, it says 255 – the new entries account for 11 (Eleven) – Again, no revenue share here, a one time CPA (Cost per acquisition) and 12 payments have actually triggered this month so i would imagine that means one person from last month completed the criteria but from 329 entries, i have 12 payments.
Videoslots
Lastly, VS, anyone can enter this one regardless of using my link and it has always been that way, there are 429 entries in this one, 39 of those are new players through my link but again here, there is a requirement of wagering they must hit in order to trigger the payment i receive, i have a hybrid deal here, that means i get a smaller CPA and a revenue share, it has always been that way but let me give you an actual, up to the day report on the revenue share side of this account right now…its £0. It is actually minus 2k but will just be £0 – they don’t take money off you in that way. Out of the 39 new people, currently 20 payments have triggered.
Right, lets look at that all added together, 1259 entries in to my giveaways. 99 actual new players for me. 73 payments. £0 revenue
Can you see now how this kind of post is my problem?
One of the replies that says i have to do nothing, if i do nothing, there simply are none or very few new sign ups and as i have gone on and on and on about in loads of replies in the past, i don’t have a revenue share that actually produces a decent revenue share anywhere, no casino. I do a video when i want to play, if i don’t want to play then i don’t do one. Sometimes i can’t do one because i have a ban, like now, i am banned from YouTube, where do i put a video? I have tried loads of different places and there is always something that doesn’t quite fit. I’m not a streamer so i don’t want to stream, as i have said, time and again.
I don’t have any tough months ahead, i could turn it all off tomorrow if i really wanted too but i will always gamble so why should i, 99% of my following love to see a video whenever that video may pop up, i don’t play to a schedule, i don’t stream 5 times a week on a time table, i’m not a business.
The only dark cloud remains peoples huge misunderstandings.
mike drop !!!!!
121st January 2020 at 3:11 pm #89044love watching you bandit, great funny vids.it your money so do what you will with it. BUT and there is a but if you go on youtube and twitch you will have to accept there are jealous and spiteful viewers. so get you staff to read your emails and posts. so you do`nt have to get annoyed frustrated just play . even if it is 10p a spin we will watch. THEY WILL COME!…. LOL.
121st January 2020 at 3:22 pm #89045How many threads are going to keep popping up like this?!
Yes his videos are really entertaining and so I look forward to watching them when they go up, but bloody hell if there isn’t one I hardly cry about it, just get on with my day and it’s forgotten about in 5 mins.
In the nicest possible way, all these people getting so agitated because the Bandit hasn’t posted…well, I’d say they need to go get a hobby/ social life (that doesn’t revolve) around slotting.
We don’t own him FFS, and he doesn’t actually owe anyone anything. Whether he posts twice a week or twice a year, let’s face it, you’ll still watch so I don’t see the point of these threads or people constantly moaning about the lack of content. Just accept he may not be putting content out as regularly anymore, move on and enjoy it when it does come out.
2221st January 2020 at 3:34 pm #89047I have to say Steve, I admire your patience because this is about the fourteenth time I’ve seen you explain all this. There was a thread recently where one guy was claiming you were making “£50k in a good month” off affiliation ?
I also love how the post in this these simultaneously blasts you for staking too high and showing “no respect for money” while also complaining “we don’t want to see him on low crappy stakes” – i mean, have your opinion, sure, but at least pick a line of attack and stick to it.
21st January 2020 at 3:39 pm #89042Long time lurker but had to join after that reply.. OP had pants pulled down.
Kudos on the channel, for me aswell as the content its the banter that keeps me as a subscriber. Not the constant brown nosing from these live streamers, “thanks a lot for the donation much appreciated”, fuck off all will you…
Personally don’t see why you bother with the draws, I mean I know why you do, but personally don’t see the point, they are so open to abuse and people taking the piss, I just feel its an abuse of your good will.
Anyway hopefully you will be back soon or whenever the mood takes.
121st January 2020 at 4:16 pm #89050Joined up just to say wind your neck in you absolute pleb. What a sad bastard you are. Bandit owes his subscribers / watchers absolutely fuck all.
As someone said earlier, we are all entertained (for free). I personally couldn’t give a shit about the stakes, the best part about the videos is the commentary. Bring on the next one.
1121st January 2020 at 4:16 pm #89051I’ve been watching you for a good three months now Steven. As yet, you have not comprehensively explained to me how you handle your finances, the make up of your business model, the extent of your commercial agreements with casinos or which side you dress on. Surely you owe me that much, I’ve watched some video you made.
We live in an age where everyone feels entitled. Do as feels right to you Bandito. We’ll either watch, or we won’t.
For those that didn’t get it, obviously the first para was sarcastic.
1221st January 2020 at 4:53 pm #89054How about a second channel, make the video private and only reached via direct link, post link on here and twitter 🙂
21st January 2020 at 5:12 pm #89056Holy shit 12 payments from bet fair ???????? Right that means……. wait a second ……… multiply that…… add this ……………..reverse the hypotenuse…….kick the cat in the balls ………square root that number …………fuck me you made £150,000,000 and a button …. and some lint ……..wow,
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