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[sidders WANTED $21 Outlaw]

Been studying blackjack lately and this “Basic Strategy” thing.

Does this strategy actually work or was it drawn up by the casino to lead us all into a false economy “??

[Malkychamp WANTED $486 Outlaw]

Depends what you mean. Yes it works in that it is the best strategy and gives you the best chance of winning in all the different scenarios. It does not work in terms of always going to profit as the house always has that slight edge

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

It would have been called out as fake a long time ago and the casino has nothing to gain really in giving it to you in that, you may shy away but you may also be lured in. Also where you would have stood before, you may not now. It’s an industry basic nowfor any seasoned played. I won’t mention card counting because we could end up banned from the whole universe of black jack tables. lol

[32 32red WANTED $19 Outlaw]

Learn it to the nth degree and don’t doubt the maths. I’ve played in the millions of hands of blackjack and it’s been ok for me. It’s can still be a ridiculously streaky game though.

[Dynamik23 WANTED $82 Outlaw]

Basic strategy means you lose less in the long run but you still lose. Blackjack is the only casino game where the house edge differs per box, one player can be playing a no bust strategy giving the casino a house edge of 13% while you can play basic strategy and only give the casino 0.6% house edge. You are more than welcome to use a basic strategy chart while at the table. The casino don’t care, as long as you are gambling they are making money. Simple as that.

[sidders WANTED $21 Outlaw]

Thanks for the replies peeps. I’d never heard of the no bust strategy so I decided to stress test alongside Basic Strategy.

Using five decks for each and doing 100 hands No bust strategy came out 4 units up . Repeating the exercise another 7 times ( yes fully aware I need a life ) Basic Strategy was just over double profit of No Bust Strategy

So looks like @32red is correct ??

[sidders WANTED $21 Outlaw]

@32red …………….Do you know anything about card counting and would this be any better than basic strategy ?

[Radar1974 WANTED $8 Outlaw]

I did gambling strategies for my final thesis for my maths degree and to sum it up simply, basic strategy simply lowers the casino edge, but you will be hampered by how many decks the casino use and other players. If you are trying to be at the best odds for yourself you need to play at an empty table with as few decks in use as possible.

Not surprisingly the casino know this, so the fewer the decks they are using, the more the minimum bet is…

in addition, remember online blackjack (the computerised versions, not the live dealer versions) ‘shuffle’ every turn which makes any kind of strategy pointless.

[Dynamik23 WANTED $82 Outlaw]

Mr B wrote:

It would have been called out as fake a long time ago and the casino has nothing to gain really in giving it to you in that, you may shy away but you may also be lured in. Also where you would have stood before, you may not now. It’s an industry basic nowfor any seasoned played. I won’t mention card counting because we could end up banned from the whole universe of black jack tables. lol

Hi where you at? ?

[Xbobmad WANTED $734 Outlaw]

Dynamik23 wrote:

Mr B wrote:

It would have been called out as fake a long time ago and the casino has nothing to gain really in giving it to you in that, you may shy away but you may also be lured in. Also where you would have stood before, you may not now. It’s an industry basic nowfor any seasoned played. I won’t mention card counting because we could end up banned from the whole universe of black jack tables. lol

Hi where you at?

He’s always around, using different usernames

[mattowl1867 WANTED $34 Outlaw]

Radar1974 wrote:

I did gambling strategies for my final thesis for my maths degree and to sum it up simply, basic strategy simply lowers the casino edge, but you will be hampered by how many decks the casino use and other players. If you are trying to be at the best odds for yourself you need to play at an empty table with as few decks in use as possible.

Not surprisingly the casino know this, so the fewer the decks they are using, the more the minimum bet is…

in addition, remember online blackjack (the computerised versions, not the live dealer versions) ‘shuffle’ every turn which makes any kind of strategy pointless.

What an interesting thread!

Your study sounds compelling too, do you happen to know anything more about computerised Blackjack?

I’ve always wondered how the game plays out, for example once you hit DEAL and the game round starts, how are the cards plucked out of the system for you? Is it RNG? Or is it like a slot where the moment you press ‘spin’ a potentially pre-determined visual will unfold for you along a certain path until win or bust.

I love Blackjack live at a land based with a drink, rarely do it online but that may change as i try and ween off the roulette wheel! Not that Blackjack can’t be as harsh….

[Radar1974 WANTED $8 Outlaw]

mattowl1867 wrote:

Radar1974 wrote:

I did gambling strategies for my final thesis for my maths degree and to sum it up simply, basic strategy simply lowers the casino edge, but you will be hampered by how many decks the casino use and other players. If you are trying to be at the best odds for yourself you need to play at an empty table with as few decks in use as possible.

Not surprisingly the casino know this, so the fewer the decks they are using, the more the minimum bet is…

in addition, remember online blackjack (the computerised versions, not the live dealer versions) ‘shuffle’ every turn which makes any kind of strategy pointless.

What an interesting thread!

Your study sounds compelling too, do you happen to know anything more about computerised Blackjack?

I’ve always wondered how the game plays out, for example once you hit DEAL and the game round starts, how are the cards plucked out of the system for you? Is it RNG? Or is it like a slot where the moment you press ‘spin’ a potentially pre-determined visual will unfold for you along a certain path until win or bust.

I love Blackjack live at a land based with a drink, rarely do it online but that may change as i try and ween off the roulette wheel! Not that Blackjack can’t be as harsh….

 

[Radar1974 WANTED $8 Outlaw]

Hi,

if online blackjack has a live dealer pulling cards from a shoe, it’s no different than playing in a real casino.

if you are playing a computerised version, the ‘info’ section should tell you how many decks are in play and the cards are drawn by RNG. The play is not pre-determined because you as a player have control over how many cards you choose to take…

….but…

the difference between the two is a live dealer has removed the exposed cards for the next hand (until the shoe is replaced), so you can keep track of how many ‘good cards’ are left to be dealt. In the computerised version the exposed cards go back into the mix for the next hand. This still allows basic strategy but any thought of ‘card counting’ is useless

[mattowl1867 WANTED $34 Outlaw]

Radar1974 wrote:

Hi,

if online blackjack has a live dealer pulling cards from a shoe, it’s no different than playing in a real casino.

if you are playing a computerised version, the ‘info’ section should tell you how many decks are in play and the cards are drawn by RNG. The play is not pre-determined because you as a player have control over how many cards you choose to take…

….but…

the difference between the two is a live dealer has removed the exposed cards for the next hand (until the shoe is replaced), so you can keep track of how many ‘good cards’ are left to be dealt. In the computerised version the exposed cards go back into the mix for the next hand. This still allows basic strategy but any thought of ‘card counting’ is useless

Great stuff cheers!

Love a bit of insightful knowledge. Never ever thought to check computer Blackjack info page etc so will definately keep that in mind if i have a go next time!

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