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12th June 2019 at 8:15 am #69046
Argyl nailed it.
Gamblers think that they’re owed a bonus but they’re not. To think that a slot owes you a bonus is known as gambler’s fallacy.
112th June 2019 at 9:18 am #69052Casinos hold wallets for players. These hold simple digits, the back office traslates those digits into currency.
Every spin the digits are sent to the game provider for a spin result, and then the casino pays out more/less digits than was spun.
I have API for game providers here, when I started in Gaming that was my first question, as I used to think like this. The game provider doesnt know what money is being used, and the casino cannot manipulate the game result for better/worse for the millionth fucking time.
So this isnt anywhere close to reality. Sorry
112th June 2019 at 11:56 am #69063It does seem to happen quite often that you’ll finally hit a bonus or get a big win when you reach bonus funds but it’s more likely that something like that would happen, the more spins you do the more likely you are to hit a bonus, right? So if you put in £50 and get matched offer (£100 total) and a bonus rolls in when your down to £48 doing 50p spins then you’ve gone just over 100 spins without a bonus which is quite common in my experience.
Something I would be interested in knowing is if taking a bonus is actually worth it? I’ve taken a few sign up bonuses before 100% matched bonus with 37x wagering normally. I’ve had 2 big cash outs by going max stake (£5) on bonus funds and eventually cashing out but more often than not I’ve not beat wagering on most I’ve taken.
I received an email from AllBritishCasino before offering me a 25% bonus up to £50 and I imagine wagering is 35-37x – this to me does not seem worth it.
So are bonuses worth using at all? It seems with 100% matched you occasionally stand a chance at cashing out but anything below that is pointless or is it just not worth it if it means you may have jeopardised what would have been a big cash out had it not been for wagering?
112th June 2019 at 12:23 pm #69067It does seem to happen quite often that you’ll finally hit a bonus or get a big win when you reach bonus funds but it’s more likely that something like that would happen, the more spins you do the more likely you are to hit a bonus, right? So if you put in £50 and get matched offer (£100 total) and a bonus rolls in when your down to £48 doing 50p spins then you’ve gone just over 100 spins without a bonus which is quite common in my experience.
Something I would be interested in knowing is if taking a bonus is actually worth it? I’ve taken a few sign up bonuses before 100% matched bonus with 37x wagering normally. I’ve had 2 big cash outs by going max stake (£5) on bonus funds and eventually cashing out but more often than not I’ve not beat wagering on most I’ve taken.
I received an email from AllBritishCasino before offering me a 25% bonus up to £50 and I imagine wagering is 35-37x – this to me does not seem worth it.
So are bonuses worth using at all? It seems with 100% matched you occasionally stand a chance at cashing out but anything below that is pointless or is it just not worth it if it means you may have jeopardised what would have been a big cash out had it not been for wagering?
It all depends on what kinda bonus it is if its a sticky bonus, it’s more worth it for the casino. If it’s a bonus that doesn’t trigger until you’ve gambled away your deposit, it’s definitely worth it.
Keep in mind the casinos don’t voluntarily give money away. They’re a business who wants you to lose your money so they make money. Even a 100% bonus is still worth it for the casino, but it’s at a bigger risk, so there’s big wagering requirements to it.
I even get offers of 10% bonus with 35% wagering, which only a retard would accept. No idea why they even send these offers.
Ultimately, it depends on how you play. If you deposit 10-100 quid and you’re looking for hours of playtime, taking a 100% bonus is probably worth it. If you’re just interested in cashing out as soon you hit something good and you dont care about playing for more than 10 minutes, you’re better off without a bonus.
I agree with the other post here, where the guy mentions that when you have a 100% bonus you have twice the playtime and spins, and as the most popular slots bonus on average once per 150-450 spins or so, it makes sense to get bonuses and thus bigger wins if you play with a bigger balance.
112th June 2019 at 1:02 pm #69070In my opinion you should always play with bonuses. Without them you are pretty much guaranteed to lose long term. That being said lots have sites have different tnc so not all bonuses are worth taking personally i wouldnt take any that has a max cashout or anything over 40x wagering.
112th June 2019 at 5:47 pm #69110The RTP remains exactly the same, whether using real or bonus funds. Anything other than that is just a coincidence and/or faulty perception!
Keep telling yourself that Bio.
Coincidences don’t happen more often than not.
And when your ties to wagering the bonuses and bug wins fly in!
Stop kidding yourself.
you really dont have a clue,ppl make a living by using casino bonuses it is the only way you can get advantage on them…so its 100% fact(i know,i make money from them)that the rtp is not changed because you are using cash/bonus funds.
So u make money playing slots . Just because u get bonus money .So if I just double up on my normal deposit I can make money ?
12th June 2019 at 6:26 pm #69116The RTP remains exactly the same, whether using real or bonus funds. Anything other than that is just a coincidence and/or faulty perception!
Keep telling yourself that Bio.
Coincidences don’t happen more often than not.
And when your ties to wagering the bonuses and bug wins fly in!
Stop kidding yourself.
you really dont have a clue,ppl make a living by using casino bonuses it is the only way you can get advantage on them…so its 100% fact(i know,i make money from them)that the rtp is not changed because you are using cash/bonus funds.
So u make money playing slots . Just because u get bonus money .So if I just double up on my normal deposit I can make money ?
Yes it is possible to make money playing slots using bonuses, you will not cash out every deposit just cause you have a bonus but taking the correct profitable bonuses allows you to have the edge mathematically while playing. There is of course variance so you can still lose so is never 100% but very possible to make money 😀
13th June 2019 at 10:23 am #69091Been reading this thread over the last day of so and thought I’d try out taking some bonuses at a couple of new casinos to see if they played any different to Sky Vegas where I’ve played for 3 years of so.
The majority of my play in Sky is bonanza, primal, DHV. Over the last few years I typically deposit £500/month and play £2 spins, never hit anything massive.
On average if would take me 600 spins or so to trigger the bonanza bonus with my biggest bonus around 280x and around 350x on DHV. Overall on Sky Vegas I’m probably down £8k or so over 3 years.
So firstly I sign up at Casumo, deposit £300 + £300 bonus and start smashing bonanza at £2/spin, over 3000 spins I had 11 bonuses, nothing special apart from a 450x win. I then take the balance to the final countdown and get 3 bonuses over 600 spins, again, nothing special but had a few 100x and one 200x hit in the base game. Next I go to primal where I start on £1/spin because I know it’s a bit more high variance and start spinning. After 1000 spins I’m down £300ish and up it to £2/spin with no joy after another 1000 spins.
At this point I have around £700 left in the account roughly split 50/50 between raw cash and bonus funds, so I up it to £4/spin. At the lowest I was down to £44 left in my account when I had a half decent bonus which paid 250x, so back to 1k or so in the account.
Fast forward another 16 hours of so with mixed play on £2/£4/£5 stakes depending on the balance on bonanza and F C and I’m only £5k away from beating wagering at which point it all goes to pot and its like I’m playing on Sky again and waiting 600 spins or so for a bonus and when it does come it’s in the 10-40x range.
Needless to say, I busted soon after. Coincidence that I ran really well when using bonus money and then ran bad when in distance of completing wagering? Being a rational and logically brained person I guess it’s just pure luck, but there’s always that niggling doubt that says it was too good to be true!
This afternoon I deposited at 21 Casino, £250 + £300 bonus. Smashed in a bonus on bonanza at £2/spin within 60 spins and got 185x. Decided to try fishing frenzy megaways at £2/spin and the bonus dropped in after 12 spins! 15 free spins later it paid roughly 280x! Spoke to the live chat to confirm I could forfeit my £300 bonus and withdraw £1k cash and withdrew. Fingers crossed it goes through ok. Just couldn’t face trying to beat 35x wagering again after the ups and downs of the previous day.
Does something untoward trigger in your account when you accept a bonus!? Who knows! Felt that way at times, but variance is variance, maybe I would’ve had the same results if I’d have done my usual and deposited at Sky, maybe I wouldn’t…
13th June 2019 at 10:53 am #69225Been reading this thread over the last day of so and thought I’d try out taking some bonuses at a couple of new casinos to see if they played any different to Sky Vegas where I’ve played for 3 years of so.
The majority of my play in Sky is bonanza, primal, DHV. Over the last few years I typically deposit £500/month and play £2 spins, never hit anything massive.
On average if would take me 600 spins or so to trigger the bonanza bonus with my biggest bonus around 280x and around 350x on DHV. Overall on Sky Vegas I’m probably down £8k or so over 3 years.
So firstly I sign up at Casumo, deposit £300 + £300 bonus and start smashing bonanza at £2/spin, over 3000 spins I had 11 bonuses, nothing special apart from a 450x win. I then take the balance to the final countdown and get 3 bonuses over 600 spins, again, nothing special but had a few 100x and one 200x hit in the base game. Next I go to primal where I start on £1/spin because I know it’s a bit more high variance and start spinning. After 1000 spins I’m down £300ish and up it to £2/spin with no joy after another 1000 spins.
At this point I have around £700 left in the account roughly split 50/50 between raw cash and bonus funds, so I up it to £4/spin. At the lowest I was down to £44 left in my account when I had a half decent bonus which paid 250x, so back to 1k or so in the account.
Fast forward another 16 hours of so with mixed play on £2/£4/£5 stakes depending on the balance on bonanza and F C and I’m only £5k away from beating wagering at which point it all goes to pot and its like I’m playing on Sky again and waiting 600 spins or so for a bonus and when it does come it’s in the 10-40x range.
Needless to say, I busted soon after. Coincidence that I ran really well when using bonus money and then ran bad when in distance of completing wagering? Being a rational and logically brained person I guess it’s just pure luck, but there’s always that niggling doubt that says it was too good to be true!
This afternoon I deposited at 21 Casino, £250 + £300 bonus. Smashed in a bonus on bonanza at £2/spin within 60 spins and got 185x. Decided to try fishing frenzy megaways at £2/spin and the bonus dropped in after 12 spins! 15 free spins later it paid roughly 280x! Spoke to the live chat to confirm I could forfeit my £300 bonus and withdraw £1k cash and withdrew. Fingers crossed it goes through ok. Just couldn’t face trying to beat 35x wagering again after the ups and downs of the previous day.
Does something untoward trigger in your account when you accept a bonus!? Who knows! Felt that way at times, but variance is variance, maybe I would’ve had the same results if I’d have done my usual and deposited at Sky, maybe I wouldn’t…
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13th June 2019 at 5:27 pm #69288Been reading this thread over the last day of so and thought I’d try out taking some bonuses at a couple of new casinos to see if they played any different to Sky Vegas where I’ve played for 3 years of so.
The majority of my play in Sky is bonanza, primal, DHV. Over the last few years I typically deposit £500/month and play £2 spins, never hit anything massive.
On average if would take me 600 spins or so to trigger the bonanza bonus with my biggest bonus around 280x and around 350x on DHV. Overall on Sky Vegas I’m probably down £8k or so over 3 years.
So firstly I sign up at Casumo, deposit £300 + £300 bonus and start smashing bonanza at £2/spin, over 3000 spins I had 11 bonuses, nothing special apart from a 450x win. I then take the balance to the final countdown and get 3 bonuses over 600 spins, again, nothing special but had a few 100x and one 200x hit in the base game. Next I go to primal where I start on £1/spin because I know it’s a bit more high variance and start spinning. After 1000 spins I’m down £300ish and up it to £2/spin with no joy after another 1000 spins.
At this point I have around £700 left in the account roughly split 50/50 between raw cash and bonus funds, so I up it to £4/spin. At the lowest I was down to £44 left in my account when I had a half decent bonus which paid 250x, so back to 1k or so in the account.
Fast forward another 16 hours of so with mixed play on £2/£4/£5 stakes depending on the balance on bonanza and F C and I’m only £5k away from beating wagering at which point it all goes to pot and its like I’m playing on Sky again and waiting 600 spins or so for a bonus and when it does come it’s in the 10-40x range.
Needless to say, I busted soon after. Coincidence that I ran really well when using bonus money and then ran bad when in distance of completing wagering? Being a rational and logically brained person I guess it’s just pure luck, but there’s always that niggling doubt that says it was too good to be true!
This afternoon I deposited at 21 Casino, £250 + £300 bonus. Smashed in a bonus on bonanza at £2/spin within 60 spins and got 185x. Decided to try fishing frenzy megaways at £2/spin and the bonus dropped in after 12 spins! 15 free spins later it paid roughly 280x! Spoke to the live chat to confirm I could forfeit my £300 bonus and withdraw £1k cash and withdrew. Fingers crossed it goes through ok. Just couldn’t face trying to beat 35x wagering again after the ups and downs of the previous day.
Does something untoward trigger in your account when you accept a bonus!? Who knows! Felt that way at times, but variance is variance, maybe I would’ve had the same results if I’d have done my usual and deposited at Sky, maybe I wouldn’t…
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It’s all been explained in this thread. The answer is no – nothing untoward happens. Each spin is random etc. Reread the thread for the detail.
Just basics just loves creating drama so ignore his input.
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