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[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

@EVERYONE 🙂

Don’t think i have ever come across so many people that claim my questions and Theories are completely wrong in every way!

Could i be totally paranoid? Could i be 100% in the wrong?

I mean are you all in on it lol

Are most of you affiliates, or do you work for the very people we are arguing about? Its just WIERD that literally everyone in here is saying i’m completely wrong.

Maybe i need to take a hard look at myself, then take a step back and think about what i have been saying. Maybe I’m off the mark about stating some casinos are fraudulent…….Yeah Maybe……

You’re all right i have in no way given SOLID proof that some a rigged. But in some cases i reckon I’ve made a good argument that they could be.

If i had millions of pounds and loads of free time i bet i could make an even better argument here. But i don’t and i can’t.

Please don’t take this as an apology, because it most certainly is not lol 🙂

I still believe that one day Some Major Casino’s will be caught cheating us. But until then i will Bow out of this conversation.

It’s been a hell of a ride 🙂

Right Then…. That’s that sorted.

 

 

 

[Cu Cutlery WANTED $6 Outlaw]

MurciPete wrote:

There is a lot of truth in what just basics says.    I have no solid proof,  but the way I have been conned in the past on bonus’,   I.e.  deposit X and receive Y,    Casinos will try any underhand tactic or loophole to try and not pay you.   Not all casinos I should add.      Also why is it that after many many deposits on lots of different casinos it’s always the same one or two that you never seem able to make a cash out?  Coincidence?      Video slots is an example.   I’ve made loads of deposits there but never got a cash out.   Where as I’ve made loads of deposits at Casumo, Dunder, Leo Vegas  and had regular and frequent cash outs.    As I said, I have no proof,   But does seem very strange.

also I’m not bitter about losing,  I never gambled more than I could afford to lose.     I mainly played for the buzz.

Oh yeah, I love the expression sheep,  there are loads out there.

See this is the thing my mate says the same thing about casumo he can’t get a cash out there he been trying for years. So again it’s back to luck!

[Rhino74 WANTED $12 Outlaw]

ok i have a question for all the casino brown tongues.
on any game you play at any casino you can spin 10 times and not win a penny.
yet on the 15 casinos ive joined with free spins you are guaranteed to win at least once on every casino.
were does it say the rtp is different on free spins.
so the free spins are rigged for the player to think its easy to win.
i wont reply to any stupid replys like grammar or asking for facts this isnt an english paper in college.

[Seedy WANTED $1,243 Sheriff]

@Rhino74 your question is very welcome but please don’t come in and call people brown tongues or any other manner of insult, please 🙂

In regards to your question, I have joined a lot of casinos over my time playing online some through affiliate links and some through there normal home pages I’ve found that most free spins on deposit are on low volitility games and do produce some funds at the end of them. I’ve also had some of these games pay zero so I can say the free spins are not rigged in terms of they are not fixed to make them win but are very smartly only on the low volatility slots thus could give the player a sense of this is easy.

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

Yeah one last thing sorry 🙂

I deposited 50 today on 888 and signed up to their 1st deposit advertisement DEPOSIT AND GET 200% on top!

Woohoo yeah boy i’l have a bit of that son!

Nothing on the advertisement page stating i have to wager 5000 FUCKING POUNDS BEFORE I GET IT!

But that’s what i have to do lol

Don’t tell me that casino’s aren’t predatory or try underhand tactics to lie to us. Because they most certainly do.

[Xbobmad WANTED $734 Outlaw]

Just Basics wrote:

Yeah one last thing sorry

I deposited 50 today on 888 and signed up to their 1st deposit advertisement DEPOSIT AND GET 200% on top!

Woohoo yeah boy i’l have a bit of that son!

Nothing on the advertisement page stating i have to wager 5000 FUCKING POUNDS BEFORE I GET IT!

But that’s what i have to do lol

Don’t tell me that casino’s aren’t predatory or try underhand tactics to lie to us. Because they most certainly do.

You mean that? It’s an awkward condition, but it’s there before you deposit telling you.

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

Xbobmad wrote:

Just Basics wrote:

Yeah one last thing sorry

I deposited 50 today on 888 and signed up to their 1st deposit advertisement DEPOSIT AND GET 200% on top!

Woohoo yeah boy i’l have a bit of that son!

Nothing on the advertisement page stating i have to wager 5000 FUCKING POUNDS BEFORE I GET IT!

But that’s what i have to do lol

Don’t tell me that casino’s aren’t predatory or try underhand tactics to lie to us. Because they most certainly do.

You mean that? It’s an awkward condition, but it’s there before you deposit telling you.

Lol don’t think the small print was that large or even on the page like that, since there is an arrow on top of the small print, im guessing you had to click on it to see it. Fuck me are you guy’s just on a crusade to put me down?

Jesus Christ. Why don’t they make it completely visible on the page?

The answer is to con!

Whatever i’m really done this time.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

So you expect….what, exactly? That you’ll be able to sign up to a casino, deposit £200 then withdraw £600 without playing any games? Like they’re giving you free money? What casino would do that? They’d be bankrupt and out of business within 5 minutes. All bonuses have wagering attached to them, everyone who plays knows this and it’s not a secret or shady practice.

[Xbobmad WANTED $734 Outlaw]

Just Basics wrote:

Xbobmad wrote:

Just Basics wrote:

Yeah one last thing sorry

I deposited 50 today on 888 and signed up to their 1st deposit advertisement DEPOSIT AND GET 200% on top!

Woohoo yeah boy i’l have a bit of that son!

Nothing on the advertisement page stating i have to wager 5000 FUCKING POUNDS BEFORE I GET IT!

But that’s what i have to do lol

Don’t tell me that casino’s aren’t predatory or try underhand tactics to lie to us. Because they most certainly do.

You mean that? It’s an awkward condition, but it’s there before you deposit telling you.

Lol don’t think the small print was that large or even on the page like that, since there is an arrow on top of the small print, im guessing you had to click on it to see it. Fuck me are you guy’s just on a crusade to put me down?

Jesus Christ. Why don’t they make it completely visible on the page?

The answer is to con!

Whatever i’m really done this time.

First off, apologies for doing a messy quote!

This thread was started by @eejit101 to try and dispel some of the false information that people believe is true about online casinos. Just Basics, if anyone reads through this, they will see that you came to this and other threads agressively promoting your view that the whole business is corrupt.

You say that people are on a crusade to put you down, Look through this thread. You’ve spent 8 pages now on your own personal crusade. I can only assume that Online casino’s aren’t for you. Take a step back and listen to what other people have to say rather than dismissing it, finding other random rubbish and screaming FACT after it.

That 888 term shows on mobile, it may have an arrow but it auto appears when you scroll. It’s half visable anyway, you don’t have to click it.

 

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

OK OK OK I’M DONE WITH YOU GUYS.

HOPE YOUR ALL HAPPY LIVING THE LIE

BYE

[Na Nathanio WANTED $21 Outlaw]

To be fair @just basics 50x the bonus money only is reasonable…… it’s at least In standing with most casinos now a days. It’s the 100x (bonus + deposit) bastards that you need to be wary of. To discuss the other side of this, I’ve actually profited HUGELY because of wagering requirements. I recently WOULD have withdrawn £600 if I could, but wagering has me tied in……. some £1 spins later and many hours of fun, I hit 1300x on Diamond mine, the cashout was eventually £1900 ONLY thanks to the wagering.

My honest advice, just stop playing at online casinos. Then you don’t need to blame them and everyone else for your habit.

Peace out man!

[Biohazard WANTED $675 Outlaw]

So I do, somewhat, agree with Just Basics on this one. Bonus terms are often very ambiguous and certainly not obvious to the player (particularly new players who aren’t as aware of the bonus process). I believe this is something that needs to change, with more clarity and warning prior to the player depositing with the casino (e.g. staking above £2 etc.).

I completely agree with the casino’s choice to use wagering – it can’t just be seen as “free money” but rather an opportunity to wager more over a longer period of time in the hope of hitting a bonus or a bigger win. 20x to 35x feels reasonable to me. 50x certainly feels far too high, but no one is forcing you to use the bonus and accept the bonus terms.

Now what I absolutely do not agree with, and, in my opinion, is a genuinely corrupt and underhanded way of managing a bonus, is the “against the spirit of the bonus” terms. These are often written incredibly unclear in the terms and conditions, and left purposefully open to cover a number of different scenarios. What often happens is, the player may win a large amount from the bonus through large blackjack or roulette bets, and then when attempting to withdraw after going through full wagering, the casino then rejects the withdrawal on the basis of going “against the spirit of the bonus”. 888 are particularly well known in doing this, hence their inclusion on the rogue list with Casino Meister. If they don’t want people to place certain bets on blackjack, for example, then they should make this clear in the terms and conditions.

[Pa PaulRud101 WANTED $0 Outlaw]

Hey fellas. Newbie here.

Been reading this post all day.

And i’ve got to say its refreshing to see such drama over this subject of some gambling sites being in a sense Underhanded. I have read all this post form beginning to end, and its clear to me that this “JustBasics” geezer has made some very valid points. Sure he’s gone on a bit too much. But all in all he’s completely right about how these casino’s are always trying to get one over on us. I read the Pokerstars bits and yes i totally agree with him. I’ve played there for a decade and have the same thoughts as he does about the Rng being rigged. Like him I cannot prove it, but i can tell you hands DO NOT play out in real life like they do at Pokerstars every second of every minute. And please don’t say i only remember the bad beats and not the good ones, because that is just a cowards way out. I’m 56 years old and i know how poker is played.

And as for the constant reply’s to him disregarding everything he say’s. You Fella’s should be ashamed of yourselves. This isn’t a playground at middle school, so play nice. He has given some very valid points don’t you think?

Anyway Great to see such a passionate debate.

I’ve been trying to find The Bandit for months since he left youtube. I’m so glad i finally found this site. Can’t wait to watch the videos and catch up on what I’ve missed.

Thanks for taking the time. And Have a lovely day.Hey fellas.

[MichaelLFC96 WANTED $114 Outlaw]

I personally think casinos that implement wagering on free spins are total greedy bastards!

How many times do I get a text or an email saying 20 free spins or 10 free spins, then T&C’s state you need to wager winnings 50x. Wowee, I’ve won 50p and need to wager £25 before I can keep about a quid? Honestly what is the point lol, I’m not the type of person they’re looking for, it’s so obvious it’s a tactic to get people to deposit and the addicts to get reeled in.

 

Its horrendous it it really is!

[eejit101 WANTED $312 Outlaw]

They add wagering as that money affects their income. They have 100,000 players and they ‘ll win a fiver? That’s big cash. For most casinos that’s a months income (before tax and expenditure).

 

To the poker post above this… @PaulRud… tour comment is not factual. Over 200000 have poker tracker and HUD software and every single one of them with enough sample size don’t think stars is rigged. I doubt 200k people are a con job.

 

As for basics… I hate bonus terms also. Some are very badly written (as I pointed out in my main post casinos will try and get your money… just the legal way). But if you owned a casino (and you can… for about £30,000 if you have backing),  would you not try and profit?

 

This is their business, and they are good at it. It’s predatory and gambling. It’s easy money.

 

What not easy is fixing alot or fixing poker. If it happens or is happening I’ll be truly shocked.

 

As for my post to begin with, I found 3 new streamers playing on company money last week. That I think is unfair. They gamble in ways not usual and decided in advance by the casino. That’s bad advertising

 

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