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5th January 2020 at 5:07 pm #87477
Obviously he makes money, I can’t see the issue mate, it’s nothing like a phone contract where the phone technically is free on the basis you sign into a contract to pay for air time/data/texts I have not signed into any contracts have never paid the bandit anything directly or otherwise.
It was a promotion to his website/fan base but he charged nothing to those he was promoting too, so what’s the issue?
5th January 2020 at 5:13 pm #87481Nobody knows . All we can do is speak about what we do . I’ve used the links yes . Deposit 20 pound a month in each . Bet Victor and bet fair mainly used for sports . I don’t know about addicts and what other people spend , nobody knows but the person . So it’s just speculation about addicts making streamers all the money . It’s more like lots off little bits off money making a big pot off money . That’s only because I’m going off what I put in .
5th January 2020 at 5:21 pm #87483I wasnt going to comment today, but since I’ve had my cake bars (another addiction might I add), im doing it.
Arlonewts- you clearly don’t have an addiction and never have, so I don’t expect you to know how it feels or how it affects people. I just want you to know that theres not a single big win video/promotion that has made me want a gamble. I want a gamble because I want it and I’m stubborn. It could be 2/3am and it wouldn’t have phased me. Please dont put it down to big wins, when yeah, it might influence someone to want to sign up to a casino and gamble, but the sensible person would never spend more than they could afford. An addicts mind works a lot different than you think.
Sorry but that’s you personally and can only speak for yourself.
5th January 2020 at 5:23 pm #87484Obviously he makes money, I can’t see the issue mate, it’s nothing like a phone contract where the phone technically is free on the basis you sign into a contract to pay for air time/data/texts I have not signed into any contracts have never paid the bandit anything directly or otherwise.
It was a promotion to his website/fan base but he charged nothing to those he was promoting too, so what’s the issue?
The issue is it opens a door for potential addicts.
5th January 2020 at 5:26 pm #87485Yes normal raig slots blocked my comments when he done the single slot series on dead or alive 2 all I said was “love the vids but not to keen on an hour of this game not a hater” and he blocked me alot of streamers cant differentiate between trolls and loyal viewers who have an opinion but not being a hater
5th January 2020 at 5:29 pm #87486Nobody knows . All we can do is speak about what we do . I’ve used the links yes . Deposit 20 pound a month in each . Bet Victor and bet fair mainly used for sports . I don’t know about addicts and what other people spend , nobody knows but the person . So it’s just speculation about addicts making streamers all the money . It’s more like lots off little bits off money making a big pot off money . That’s only because I’m going off what I put in .
I agree with you. My problem started when chip started moaning about ‘fake’ streamers and the bandits weekly moan. It got me thinking. I looked into fruity Slots and other streamers. I just think the initial ‘were all friends and low stakes’ quickly disappear and it becomes ‘sign up to this. Sign up to that. Do they actually care if an addict loses everything from their links? It beckmes a business rather than a hobby. They have sheep that blindly follow them. How anyone still follows fruity slot after the gamstop episode I don’t know. But if I can stop one person being pushed into signing up and losing the lot then I’ll be happy. I just don’t agree with it anymore I used to but not no more
5th January 2020 at 5:30 pm #87488Yes normal raig slots blocked my comments when he done the single slot series on dead or alive 2 all I said was “love the vids but not to keen on an hour of this game not a hater” and he blocked me alot of streamers cant differentiate between trolls and loyal viewers who have an opinion but not being a hater
Exactly. Its a ‘fuck you’ attitude now. I’ve got you’re subscription sign up. Onto the next person I can get. They get too big for their boots
5th January 2020 at 5:36 pm #87490Obviously he makes money, I can’t see the issue mate, it’s nothing like a phone contract where the phone technically is free on the basis you sign into a contract to pay for air time/data/texts I have not signed into any contracts have never paid the bandit anything directly or otherwise.
It was a promotion to his website/fan base but he charged nothing to those he was promoting too, so what’s the issue?
The issue is it opens a door for potential addicts.
Potential addicts who already watch hour long gambling videos?
My ex used to watch it with me she never once felt the urge to gamble and thought it was stupid but laughed at the commentary. If that’s your issue surely every advert, sponsorship in sport/TV, high Street bookies and the rest should be gone as they are open doors for addicts too.. I was a heavy gambler years before discovering YouTube content on it.
5th January 2020 at 5:49 pm #87491I wasnt going to comment today, but since I’ve had my cake bars (another addiction might I add), im doing it.
Arlonewts- you clearly don’t have an addiction and never have, so I don’t expect you to know how it feels or how it affects people. I just want you to know that theres not a single big win video/promotion that has made me want a gamble. I want a gamble because I want it and I’m stubborn. It could be 2/3am and it wouldn’t have phased me. Please dont put it down to big wins, when yeah, it might influence someone to want to sign up to a casino and gamble, but the sensible person would never spend more than they could afford. An addicts mind works a lot different than you think.
Sorry but that’s you personally and can only speak for yourself.
Yes, I know I can only speak for myself, but other addicts I have spoken to agree with me. A video doesnt make you want to gamble, if you get that urge, then you get it and theres nothing you can do to fight it apart from gamstop. If you read all threads on the forum, you’ll see that people with addictions signed upto gamstop, and managed to find sites that gamstop didnt cover. They knew how dodgey the sites were and knew they probably wernt going to pay out, in the event that they won.
Not all addictions are the same, but they work the same way. You want that rush, that release of dopamine. That feeling it gives you, and how it can make you forget things you dont want to think about while you’re doing your addiction. Consequences at that point don’t matter because your head is buried too far into your addiction to realise what you’re doing until you finish. It’s only when you’ve spent every penny you have, on a comedown from the drug, have a massive hangover for the 2 seconds before you get out of bed to have another drink that you get those feelings of regret and hatred for yourself.
This is the only way I can think of explaining it.
5th January 2020 at 5:51 pm #87492Obviously he makes money, I can’t see the issue mate, it’s nothing like a phone contract where the phone technically is free on the basis you sign into a contract to pay for air time/data/texts I have not signed into any contracts have never paid the bandit anything directly or otherwise.
It was a promotion to his website/fan base but he charged nothing to those he was promoting too, so what’s the issue?
The issue is it opens a door for potential addicts.
Potential addicts who already watch hour long gambling videos?
My ex used to watch it with me she never once felt the urge to gamble and thought it was stupid but laughed at the commentary. If that’s your issue surely every advert, sponsorship in sport/TV, high Street bookies and the rest should be gone as they are open doors for addicts too.. I was a heavy gambler years before discovering YouTube content on it.
Well yeah they should. Hate bookies and the machines are the equivalent to streamers links! I think it’s well agreed that adverts on telly for gambling should be banned too! Addicts watching videos might think wow what a win I’m going to try and do that!
5th January 2020 at 5:55 pm #87493When i was younger walking around tesco and asda (supermarket) occasionally you would get someone standing at a little pop up counter with sample cakes/chocolate/donuts whatever it me be for you to try. You could walk up and take a piece. Yes their intention is to give you a taste for it and buy the product. However it is still free, saying oh its a promotion makes no difference
5th January 2020 at 6:06 pm #87494I wasnt going to comment today, but since I’ve had my cake bars (another addiction might I add), im doing it.
Arlonewts- you clearly don’t have an addiction and never have, so I don’t expect you to know how it feels or how it affects people. I just want you to know that theres not a single big win video/promotion that has made me want a gamble. I want a gamble because I want it and I’m stubborn. It could be 2/3am and it wouldn’t have phased me. Please dont put it down to big wins, when yeah, it might influence someone to want to sign up to a casino and gamble, but the sensible person would never spend more than they could afford. An addicts mind works a lot different than you think.
Sorry but that’s you personally and can only speak for yourself.
Yes, I know I can only speak for myself, but other addicts I have spoken to agree with me. A video doesnt make you want to gamble, if you get that urge, then you get it and theres nothing you can do to fight it apart from gamstop. If you read all threads on the forum, you’ll see that people with addictions signed upto gamstop, and managed to find sites that gamstop didnt cover. They knew how dodgey the sites were and knew they probably wernt going to pay out, in the event that they won.
Not all addictions are the same, but they work the same way. You want that rush, that release of dopamine. That feeling it gives you, and how it can make you forget things you dont want to think about while you’re doing your addiction. Consequences at that point don’t matter because your head is buried to far into your addiction to realise what you’re doing until you finish. It’s only when you’ve spent every penny you have, on a comedown from the drug, have a massive hangover for the 2 seconds before you get out of bed to have another drink that you get those feelings of regret and hatred for yourself.
This is the only way I can think of explaining it.
So my point is that what if someone hasn’t triggered that addiction yet. Sees nick slots win 25k on rainbow riches and becomes hooked. Sees a link and thinks I’ll only put 20 in so I’m in the draw it can so easily lead to someone becoming addicted. You can’t deny that
5th January 2020 at 6:08 pm #87495When i was younger walking around tesco and asda (supermarket) occasionally you would get someone standing at a little pop up counter with sample cakes/chocolate/donuts whatever it me be for you to try. You could walk up and take a piece. Yes their intention is to give you a taste for it and buy the product. However it is still free, saying oh its a promotion makes no difference
Okay mate
5th January 2020 at 6:13 pm #87496If they have that addiction in their body, something will trigger it at some point and you can’t be sure what. I dont blame my mum and dad for my addiction just because they brought me up in a seaside town full of arcades for a 14 years. The arcades were just a small part of it. People signing up with affiliation links know what it means, and if they dont after all this shit, they shouldn’t even be online. Each youtube video you go on, whether it be a vlogger, kids channel, gambler, fisherman, gamer will all have an affiliate link for something or another. Cant blame them for people having an addiction to shopping or addiction to spending can you.
5th January 2020 at 6:19 pm #87497If they have that addiction in their body, something will trigger it at some point and you can’t be sure what. I dont blame my mum and dad for my addiction just because they brought me up in a seaside town full of arcades for a 14 years. The arcades were just a small part of it. People signing up with affiliation links know what it means, and if they dont after all this shit, they shouldn’t even be online. Each youtube video you go on, whether it be a vlogger, kids channel, gambler, fisherman, gamer will all have an affiliate link for something or another. Cant blame them for people having an addiction to shopping or addiction to spending can you.
You can’t blame them for ppl having an addiction but you can blame them for preying on it! The ‘big win’ videos in particular are most concerning
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