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[awesomex WANTED $136 Outlaw]

So on the 4th bonus, within a short amount of time after the game going live, a streamer (slotspinner) hit a wildline on the high noon feature on DoA2. I also saw casinodaddy get an 800x or so win on it.
So here’s food for people who believe streamers play a rigged version of the games compared to the rest of us:

Note: I don’t know what to believe anymore. I’ve played over 200,000 rounds on bonanza with the highest win being 350x or so, while I see streamers get 1000x during a bonus hunt. Although every spin is random, there is no such thing as complete randomness in code.

Here’s another video from a wheel game, similar to evolution’s wheel games:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDPGlXcJJA&t=10s

Here’s the one that inspired me to do this post. It’s a video from Paul/Rocknrolla. Fast forward to 4:50 and you’ll see something odd happening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXD1SYEUdXw&t=384s

Here’s another one. Fast forward to 1:00 in the video, and watch the dealer’s hand as he’s pulling a card from the deck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKrOLvUiMJQ

Here’s a video from a casinomeister member, called “The Curious Case of The Jammin Jars Streamers”. In this video you will see streamers Shirox and Casinodaddy both get the exact same win sequence in the Jammin Jars base game. Every single symbol on the screen is the same, from start to finish. The only difference is the stake they’re playing on. But both win the exact same multiplier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc53rrmxz34&t=428s

On top of the casinos making it as hard as possible for you to cash out, this is the kinda shit they obviously do.

 

Bonus Clip:

https://www.twitch.tv/casinodaddy/clip/FancyAntediluvianStingrayWOOP?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time
Is this rigged or not? I mean.. It almost landed on 2, then bounced back to a chance card, then to hit a 2 and pay out more than it was going to in the first place.

[Seedy WANTED $1,243 Sheriff]

Listen I get why people believe that streamers get a better paying account etc but it’s not true. Well I’m with ste all the time if I knew that I definitely would be playing online slots anymore. I not a complete degenerative turd or a idiot.

But I do believe that there are cases where streamers have been caught using fake funds etc. Some use bonuses example 100% etc and have to wager them out this is just good sense if your a streamer etc as it makes the costs for the individual less.

In regards to the wheel things theres a perpetual motor behind it to aid of the spin now its anyone guess if they can fiddle that but it could be something simple like one of the push bike motors that just make moving easier.

[Haz40 WANTED $1,167 Outlaw]

You’ve opened up a can of worms here mate. ?. I know who i believe and who i don’t which is why I’m on here. Enough said.

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

Well the dealer clearly switched the card so that the dealer would win.

To the point seedy makes about perpetual motors. i had no idea they did that. I know very little about roulette but I know a bit about engineering and some laws of physics which to me scream there is no need for a perpetual spin aid motor. A simple static heavy weight balanced on the wheel axle would suffice in prolonging and smoothing a spin.

[EnglishGuy WANTED $99 Outlaw]

It’s simple.. if i could afford to spin thousands of spins per day, you would hit 2000x wins way more frequently, and to some extent likely.

You mention you have had 200k spins on Bonanza,, its a volatile slot. i’ve lost count of my spins on bonanza, as it’s almost the only slot i play, but i had 1 million spins on videoslots, and i’ve played at ,at least 8 other casinos. and in all that time, i’ve only had 3 x 4 scatter retriggers, and two wins of 1400x. nothing higher, and 400X in the base. two bonuses on a start of 27 spins, and about 8 at a start of 22 spins. none at 32.

What streamers DO DO though, is play with casino money, and i have a long list of people i ‘suspect’ of doing so. however, as ever, that’s just an opinion.. it’s rare for them to get caught at it, because they are working with the casino.. whose interests are soley about making you gamble, and lose more.

 

[Seedy WANTED $1,243 Sheriff]

The perpetual motor was on the big wheel like dreamcatcher I don’t think roulette needs it as it’s from a maths point of view in favour of the house anyways.

[awesomex WANTED $136 Outlaw]

I just made this thread for fun, but when it comes to live games, I have no doubt in my mind there is cheating going on by the providers. The same goes for slots, to be honest. If there’s a true 100% randomness in slots, they couldn’t guarantee the RTP, and could potentially lose money.

Then there are the examples where people have bonuses with a max cashout of 100 euros or 150 euros, and hit wildline in the bonus on Captain Venture and win 12,000 euros, where the casino takes away 11,850 euros from your winnings, which happened to Jesus at Casinodaddy.
Not only is it shit for him, but it’s shit for others who play the game and know that the wildline which has to be programmed to hit once every so many million spins, is taken out of the “pool”. This is how it works with code on slots, so it’s kinda scammy of the casinos to do shit like that.

It’s getting ridiculous with all the proof in front of you, where the casinos scam people, and people go to the defense of the casinos every time.

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

Seedy wrote:

The perpetual motor was on the big wheel like dreamcatcher I don’t think roulette needs it as it’s from a maths point of view in favour of the house anyways.

Ah yes… but sort of no. Any idea why the big wheel would need assistance or control ? given it’s easily a weighted and balanced wheel, like the roulette wheel, it needs nothing as far as I am thinking. That failed spin is a ruin for the industry in my book.

[Seedy WANTED $1,243 Sheriff]

I could only think it could do with it being stood upright where a roulette wheel is flat. But there are also automated roulette wheels like on the ITVs jackpot 24/7

[Seedy WANTED $1,243 Sheriff]

awesomex wrote:

I just made this thread for fun, but when it comes to live games, I have no doubt in my mind there is cheating going on by the providers. The same goes for slots, to be honest. If there’s a true 100% randomness in slots, they couldn’t guarantee the RTP, and could potentially lose money.

Then there are the examples where people have bonuses with a max cashout of 100 euros or 150 euros, and hit wildline in the bonus on Captain Venture and win 12,000 euros, where the casino takes away 11,850 euros from your winnings, which happened to Jesus at Casinodaddy. Not only is it shit for him, but it’s shit for others who play the game and know that the wildline which has to be programmed to hit once every so many million spins, is taken out of the “pool”. This is how it works with code on slots, so it’s kinda scammy of the casinos to do shit like that.

It’s getting ridiculous with all the proof in front of you, where the casinos scam people, and people go to the defense of the casinos every time.

We have done a discussion on how a slot is random and at which points it is predetermined and how it can make the RTP mate. But in terms of the dead or alive wildline it’s the game providers server that the result comes from and the casino itself that sets there terms so that happening yes is not great but is just bad luck more than a scam of any sorts ?

[NudePicsForFreeSpins WANTED $20 Outlaw]

I just watched the SlotSpinner vid go to 4:<span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>30 and listen to what his girl says when she leaves the room @4:37 lol.</span>

I’m not sure what to think about streamers anymore. I always believed they’re genuine simply because of affiliation money, donations and bonuses would allow them to spin an amazing amount of volume which would obviously allow these constant mega wins. I’m not sure how many streamers there are but the ones who’ve had the most exposure in terms of my viewing experience are:

TheBandit

Rocknrolla

Nickslots

Slotspinner

LetsGiveItaSin

Jartu

CasinoDaddy

That’s seven streamers right there and we know The Bandit and Rock aren’t around right now so leaves five streamers to consider and of those five, four (80 FUCKING %) have hit significant wins on Dead or Alive two which has only been out two days.

Dead or alive original slot was my go to slot I have won an insane amount of wildlines and five scatters for a single person but I played some insane volume for almost two years and there were long dry periods.Even as a single slot investment we are talking one mega win per month (average) or so. Yet here we have 80% of the main streamers hitting wildlines and five scatters or other big wins in two days. I also want to mention I converted one person to the original DOA and I also have two other people I made friends with because of the wins on this slot, they are also high volume players but they’re yet to post a big win.

Even consider us community followers which has to be tens of thousands of players lets say 20,000 to be conservative I would expect to see even 1% that’s 200 people posting mega win pictures of this game but that’s happend not even close. Yet 80% of the streamers mentioned have their win already. Nah that’s a effin joke, yes they have volume but so do the 20,000 strong community yet where are their wins? 5 people vs 20,000 even with bonus funds affiliation money etc are not putting in the same volume as us no effin way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Eightblack WANTED $446 Outlaw]

I believe in any industry where such large amounts of cash are available some will resort to foul play, like the vibrating roulette balls they wouldn’t exsist if there wasn’t a market for them.. I don’t think the casino giants would be guilty but smaller gambling venues may well be

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

I’m sure it wouldn’t matter mate. It’s to do with centrifugal force. An added weight would make it spin longer with added momentum/inertia or something along those lines. The balance means it’s not fighting gravity in a similar way a lift has a counter weight so they are easy to move as opposed to the motor having to carry the whole weight of the lift.

[Seedy WANTED $1,243 Sheriff]

NudePicsForFreeSpins wrote:

I just watched the SlotSpinner vid go to 4:<span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>30 and listen to what his girl says when she leaves the room @4:37 lol.</span>

I’m not sure what to think about streamers anymore. I always believed they’re genuine simply because of affiliation money, donations and bonuses would allow them to spin an amazing amount of volume which would obviously allow these constant mega wins. I’m not sure how many streamers there are but the ones who’ve had the most exposure in terms of my viewing experience are:

TheBandit

Rocknrolla

Nickslots

Slotspinner

LetsGiveItaSin

Jartu

CasinoDaddy

That’s seven streamers right there and we know The Bandit and Rock aren’t around right now so leaves five streamers to consider and of those five, four (80 FUCKING %) have hit significant wins on Dead or Alive two which has only been out two days.

Dead or alive original slot was my go to slot I have won an insane amount of wildlines and five scatters for a single person but I played some insane volume for almost two years and there were long dry periods.Even as a single slot investment we are talking one mega win per month (average) or so. Yet here we have 80% of the main streamers hitting wildlines and five scatters or other big wins in two days. I also want to mention I converted one person to the original DOA and I also have two other people I made friends with because of the wins on this slot, they are also high volume players but they’re yet to post a big win.

Even consider us community followers which has to be tens of thousands of players lets say 20,000 to be conservative I would expect to see even 1% that’s 200 people posting mega win pictures of this game but that’s happend not even close. Yet 80% of the streamers mentioned have their win already. Nah that’s a effin joke, yes they have volume but so do the 20,000 strong community yet where are their wins? 5 people vs 20,000 even with bonus funds affiliation money etc are not putting in the same volume as us no effin way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ste still hasn’t managed a wildline on the original DoA ????

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

Seedy wrote:

Ste still hasn’t managed a wildline on the original DoA ????

 

I want to pmsl but neither have i. I take you have, ya bastard

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