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[benq99 WANTED $229 Outlaw]

well i dont trust any streamer that has any thing to do with casino grounds it just don’t feel write and leoveges in with casinogrounds its going to want to show big wins to get people to sighn up.like an ad on tv the actor is payed to sell you things that they would not be seen dead in,but tell you is the best.the only streamer i watch is the bandit he is in my books very open and honest

[Seedy WANTED $1,244 Sheriff]

Mr B wrote:

Seedy wrote:

Ste still hasn’t managed a wildline on the original DoA

 

I want to pmsl but neither have i. I take you have, ya bastard

Nope I’ve got about as much luck as a turd in a paper bag tossed in a canal… ???

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

Seedy wrote:

Mr B wrote:

Seedy wrote:

Ste still hasn’t managed a wildline on the original DoA

 

I want to pmsl but neither have i. I take you have, ya bastard

Nope I’ve got about as much luck as a turd in a paper bag tossed in a canal… ???

I’m both sorry and thankful to hear that as it’s the first time I heard that one. feckin weirdo ! ?

[Green2711 WANTED $492 Outlaw]

Sorry but I dont believe in the whole rigged for streamers conspiracy theories. Of course if your playing slots for 4+  hours every day then you eventually going to hit some big wins unless you’re really unlucky. By comparison to non streamers it looks like they are winning more but in reality they are just playing more. I wonder how many streamers are actually up for the year and the ones that are up; will they be up come the end of the year?

[Biohazard WANTED $675 Outlaw]

Lots to address in this thread – I’ll try and respond to most examples made…

DOA2 Big Win/Streamers
Although it does seem a bit unlikely the amount of huge wins we’ve seen on DOA2 already from well known streamers, I don’t believe any dodgy dealing is happening. They’ve just got lucky, as any of us can get. You have to remember that these guys are slotting almost constantly, sooner or later they’re bound hit big and then share this win with the community. What we often don’t seen are the hundreds or thousands of losing spins leading up to that point.

Spin a win/Dreamcatcher
Again with this one, I can see how this looks dodgy, but I think @Seedy has explained this one nicely. The same thing has happened on Dreamcatcher before. This is a giant wheel that spins on an axis of some sort, it’s mechanical, at times things are going to go wrong, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that there are controllable brakes that allow the casino to control the outcome how they please. Wheels like these are checked and verified all the time. It’d be so easy for them to be found out as ‘rigged’ by an independent commission if they were.

Rocknrolla/Roulette
A spinning ball with momentum chucking itself against a counter spinning wheel, with numerous edges and variables in play, can result in some pretty whacky outcomes. Do I believe in this example it was rigged? No. That’s just my opinion, I can’t prove whether it is or not. People love to accuse Roulette as being rigged more than any other game. As long as you stick to the reputable companies, you should be fine. Most of the time, you’re going to lose on it, it’s just the way it’s designed.

Blackjack/Dodgy dealer
This one is 100% dodgy, no question about it. Betonline have a pretty foul history with this sort of thing. This dealer was investigated and been forced to leave by the business, I believe.

Jammin’ Jars
Although incredibly unlikely, this sort of thing is possible. Jammin’ Jars has come under flack for their ‘small’ number of different winning visuals. I think the rep in that video explained exactly how this happened, so what’s the problem on this one? That you don’t believe them? If not, why not? This one links in with the original streamer trustworthiness from earlier.

Random
This has been covered to death. Let’s not get into this one all over again.

[awesomex WANTED $136 Outlaw]

Biohazard wrote:

Lots to address in this thread – I’ll try and respond to most examples made…

DOA2 Big Win/Streamers Although it does seem a bit unlikely the amount of huge wins we’ve seen on DOA2 already from well known streamers, I don’t believe any dodgy dealing is happening. They’ve just got lucky, as any of us can get. You have to remember that these guys are slotting almost constantly, sooner or later they’re bound hit big and then share this win with the community. What we often don’t seen are the hundreds or thousands of losing spins leading up to that point.

Spin a win/Dreamcatcher
Again with this one, I can see how this looks dodgy, but I think @Seedy has explained this one nicely. The same thing has happened on Dreamcatcher before. This is a giant wheel that spins on an axis of some sort, it’s mechanical, at times things are going to go wrong, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that there are controllable brakes that allow the casino to control the outcome how they please. Wheels like these are checked and verified all the time. It’d be so easy for them to be found out as ‘rigged’ by an independent commission if they were.

Rocknrolla/Roulette
A spinning ball with momentum chucking itself against a counter spinning wheel, with numerous edges and variables in play, can result in some pretty whacky outcomes. Do I believe in this example it was rigged? No. That’s just my opinion, I can’t prove whether it is or not. People love to accuse Roulette as being rigged more than any other game. As long as you stick to the reputable companies, you should be fine. Most of the time, you’re going to lose on it, it’s just the way it’s designed.

Blackjack/Dodgy dealer
This one is 100% dodgy, no question about it. Betonline have a pretty foul history with this sort of thing. This dealer was investigated and been forced to leave by the business, I believe.

Jammin’ Jars
Although incredibly unlikely, this sort of thing is possible. Jammin’ Jars has come under flack for their ‘small’ number of different winning visuals. I think the rep in that video explained exactly how this happened, so what’s the problem on this one? That you don’t believe them? If not, why not? This one links in with the original streamer trustworthiness from earlier.

Random
This has been covered to death. Let’s not get into this one all over again.

DoA2 Big Win/Streamers
It sure seems odd that so many streamers have had huge hits in a very low number of spins. I actually play more spins per month than many of the streamers do on stream, and I’ve been nowhere near as lucky as them. Of course it could be luck, but I don’t see it.

Spin a win/Dreamcatcher
This one is 100% rigged. There’s no question about it.

Rocknrolla/Roulette
Another clearly rigged example, as they take the ball out mid-spin, and replaces it with another ball from her other hand. Until that point he was winning (luck). After that point, he lost every spin. If you think they leave stuff like this to chance, guess again. This is 100% rigged.

Jammin Jar
Yes, they explained how there are only 1.3 million different outcomes on Jammin Jars. However, 2 streamers getting the same one within a week of each other seems odd. Specially if you take into consideration that another streamer has since had that very same outcome as well.

Random
There is no such thing as randomness in computer code, and there’s no such thing as true randomness in gambling.
Wherever there’s huge money to be made, you can bet your ass there’s corruption there.
They’ve managed to rig top level football games, as there’s so much money involved in it. So thinking these guys aren’t able to get away with rigging games makes you very naive.

[Biohazard WANTED $675 Outlaw]

No, I’m not naive at all. I’m a realist, always have been.

This one is 100% rigged. There’s no question about it.

It’s statements like this that make debates on this forum quite often impossible.

Open your mind, see both sides and provide the corresponding evidence if you actually want to have an intellectual debate on this topic.

[Du Dune2000 WANTED $205 Blocked]

All pretty irrelevant to me, based on the fact that apart from watching them online slots don’t interest me for a number of reasons.

So many posters on this site stating they have deposited frequently and never get a big bonus.

understanding that for people to win 6000x bonuses someone has to lose large.

dodgy casino tactics, in relation to verification etc etc

No wish to have to send a pic in of myself in a pair of leather shorts, waving a union jack and holding my passport just to get a withdrawal.

If I get the urge to play slots in the future it will be in the bookies, where the screens don’t freeze when you bonus , and you get scammed by the casino with the System error response.  If you do win in the bookies you get paid within minutes.  Yep I will never get a mega win, but I doubt I would get one online 🙂

[Anonymous WANTED $81 Inactive]

I’m not saying The Bandit has any influence over this and maybe the other streamers don’t either, but for sure the more popular The Bandit has become the more he is winning. Most of his early videos when nobody was paying attention were losers, loser after loser. Nowadays he wins way more than 50% of videos (or at least that’s how it seems) and is up hundreds of thousands on a couple of games? Quite a stark contrast

And yea since the dawn of time this shit has been going on. It’s called cronyism and affects every sphere of life from corner street dealers to the houses of parliament

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

Biohazard wrote:

No, I’m not naive at all. I’m a realist, always have been.

This one is 100% rigged. There’s no question about it.

It’s statements like this that make debates on this forum quite often impossible.

Open your mind, see both sides and provide the corresponding evidence if you actually want to have an intellectual debate on this topic.

Let me introduce you to Joe.

Joe started out life as a pretty good egg, cared for his siblings, friends and parents. Until one day he seemingly got in with the wrong crowd and his life path changed dramatically. He got hooked on an known addiction (doesn’t matter which really does it ?) and committed crime to fund it. Inevitably he ended up in trouble with the law, getting cautions, fines, community service and eventually jail. He then went on to be jailed 4 more times until present day. He has been collared for no less than 12 crimes over 4 years.

And we’re all supposed to believe he only committed 12 crimes.

I made that story up. But it reflects the lack of yearning for the corrupt to admit to every wrong doing they have committed.

There is almost certainly a lot more corruption in the gambling industry than we find out about. I feel to think that to be wrong, is incredibly naive. I mean, what industry, sector or type of business doesn’t have corruption ? Everything except the gambling industry and it’s £14b pa payload.

And I said that with an open mind. Honestly, butter wouldn’t melt.

 

[Ol Oldmoon WANTED $27 Outlaw]

There are a few regulars who post here who seem to defend casinos to the death and they have every right to do just that.but come on now it’s so blatantly obvious that certain streamers are working directly for the casinos.as for those roulette spins they are fucking ludicrous.ive spent a lot of time playing live roulette in the past and they are rigged 100%.the automated tables in Spain use air jets to spin the wheel and ball with a glass dome over them.looks like they use the same wheels without the dome obviously lol.

[Geezawin WANTED $270 Outlaw]

Seedy wrote:

NudePicsForFreeSpins wrote:

I just watched the SlotSpinner vid go to 4:<span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>30 and listen to what his girl says when she leaves the room @4:37 lol.</span>

I’m not sure what to think about streamers anymore. I always believed they’re genuine simply because of affiliation money, donations and bonuses would allow them to spin an amazing amount of volume which would obviously allow these constant mega wins. I’m not sure how many streamers there are but the ones who’ve had the most exposure in terms of my viewing experience are:

TheBandit

Rocknrolla

Nickslots

Slotspinner

LetsGiveItaSin

Jartu

CasinoDaddy

That’s seven streamers right there and we know The Bandit and Rock aren’t around right now so leaves five streamers to consider and of those five, four (80 FUCKING %) have hit significant wins on Dead or Alive two which has only been out two days.

Dead or alive original slot was my go to slot I have won an insane amount of wildlines and five scatters for a single person but I played some insane volume for almost two years and there were long dry periods.Even as a single slot investment we are talking one mega win per month (average) or so. Yet here we have 80% of the main streamers hitting wildlines and five scatters or other big wins in two days. I also want to mention I converted one person to the original DOA and I also have two other people I made friends with because of the wins on this slot, they are also high volume players but they’re yet to post a big win.

Even consider us community followers which has to be tens of thousands of players lets say 20,000 to be conservative I would expect to see even 1% that’s 200 people posting mega win pictures of this game but that’s happend not even close. Yet 80% of the streamers mentioned have their win already. Nah that’s a effin joke, yes they have volume but so do the 20,000 strong community yet where are their wins? 5 people vs 20,000 even with bonus funds affiliation money etc are not putting in the same volume as us no effin way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ste still hasn’t managed a wildline on the original DoA

Nearly did this mornin .  5 spins at it after retrig.   bottom line missed on the right hand corner .  Fell off the screen on the last spin Fk  nice win tho put it on site later

[Du Dune2000 WANTED $205 Blocked]

LOL, this is not rocket science.   Streamers, receiving endless 100% bonuses, with affiliate income, losses capped etc etc, which even those in the business admit is happening.

So they play the slots 8 hours a day, no concern for money as their losses are capped.  They video what they want, and post what they want.  If you play slots 40 hours a week with losses capped on the casino proviso that you will upload high paying content to attract suckers, players you are always going to hit a big win more than anyone else.   At the same time you post a few losing videos to make it look like you are actually getting the same treatment as everyone else

Apart from Hypalinx and Paul OSC slots, I take all streamer content with a pinch of salt.

 

[Biohazard WANTED $675 Outlaw]

Mr B, I’m a little confused about why you have quoted me alongside that post?

Obviously corruption exists, who has said it doesn’t? I’m merely providing a counter argument to the examples given by the OP. “Rigged” isn’t the only possible route cause for these events. It’s about time people realised that.

[Du Dune2000 WANTED $205 Blocked]

awesomex wrote:

Spin a win/Dreamcatcher Again with this one, I can see how this looks dodgy, but I think @Seedy has explained this one nicely. The same thing has happened on Dreamcatcher before. This is a giant wheel that spins on an axis of some sort, it’s mechanical, at times things are going to go wrong, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that there are controllable brakes that allow the casino to control the outcome how they please. Wheels like these are checked and verified all the time. It’d be so easy for them to be found out as ‘rigged’ by an independent commission if they were.

 

How much notice do the independent commission give that they are coming out to make a “surprise visit” 🙂

Reminds me of Rogue Trader where the independent audit team email to say they will be arriving in a week and can they be picked up at the airport.

 

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