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27th April 2019 at 9:03 pm #62927
My point is that if you add this all up it’s incredibly naive to say there’s no corruption
About the slots, I’m not saying there’s 100% proof the streamers have rigged versions of the slots, I’m saying there’s a possibility some of them do. Nobody can disprove this. However, I believe at least some of them are legit and play the same way you and I do.
As for live games, they’re always rigged in one way or another; Monopoly wheel: You land 2 rolls, tons of buildings on the last street. 4 rolls, not that many buildings. Also, the fact the “flapper” is able to make you bounce back to the previous spot, acting like a trampoline.. I don’t see how that little rubber thing can generate enough force on a wheel that heavy to actually do that. Suppose it could be possible. But the other video shows the other wheel game having a malfunction that breaks the spin, so I wouldn’t rule out that there’s something dodgy there.
Eejit said evolution operate on a % value of the win/loss difference or whatever. This gives them incentive to cheat if they can get away with it.
The problem for an online casino with live games is that live games like blackjack can be beat by the player, unless the company rigs the game. Which evolution gaming actually does too. I know they used to remove an unknown amount of face cards in blackjack. Now they stop the deck when they get to the marker, instead of going through all of it. Real blackjack rules are to use 6 full decks of cards, and deal through all of it. Something they don’t do, cus you then you could count cards and up your own odds.
Cancelling withdrawals over and over again, and long verification checks – Think we all agree this is some bullshit the casinos shouldn’t be allowed to do, and this is the biggest case for saying there’s fraud in the online casino industry.
Here are just some examples of obvious corruption in sports at the highest level: -Chelsea vs Barcelona (When the Norwegian ref won the game for barcelona. Back when Drogba and Ballack played for Chelsea) -PSG vs Barcelona (PSG wins 4-0 at home, loses 6-1 away, just enough to put Barcelona through) -Everything reported in the millions of documents by “football leaks”. -2002 World Cup referees letting Korea and Japan use martial arts on the pitch without getting punished.
-Holyfield’s olympic run in boxing.
-Holyfield when asked who he thought was gonna win between Mayweather and Pacquiao: “Whoever they decided is gonna win, will win”.Wherever there’s a huge amount of money involved, there’s gonna be dishonesty by those who stand to gain, or possibly lose a lot on it.
How the hell is the PSG vs Barca obvious corruption?? Are we really meant to believe that the whole team, squad, managers, background staff of both teams contrived to make the score 4-0 then 6-1? And for them all to agree to it and not say anything?? Wtf!! I’ve agreed with some of the stuff you’ve said but some of your 100% obvious stuff really isn’t at all!
Nobody loses a 4-0 lead in the champions league. It just doesn’t happen. If you actually believe that a team can dominate and win 4-0, and then lose 6-1 3 weeks after, you should think about this again.
Have you seen the football leaks documents btw? You should have a look when you have time.Christ If that’s all the evidence needed then it’s become clear to me now that Liverpool didn’t really win the CL in 2005, no team gets a 3-0 lead in a CL final only to go on and lose the match. It makes sense now because like you said there’s corruption in the Turkish league and it was held in Istanbul, we’ve cracked this one mate, shall I get on the phone to Fifa or do you want to do it? I’m afraid my tin foil hat might mess with my phones signal.
Think about it man. If there’s cold hard evidence that the previous and current leaders of the biggest authority in worldwide football are corrupt, do you really think there’s no corruption in the games?
Here, lemme list some corruption cases for you:
-Sam Allardyce was “forced to resign” as England manager.
-Sepp Blatter was removed from the FIFA office.
-CONCACAF President Jeffrey Webb arrested.
– FIFA Executive Committee members Eduardo Li of the Costa Rican Football Federation and Eugenio Figueredo, formerly of the Uruguayan Football Association was arrested
-CONMEBOL President Nicolás Leoz was arrested
-former CONMEBOL President Nicolás Leoz was arrested
-former CONCACAF president Jack Warner’s son Daryll
-Jack Warner and marketing executive Alejandro Burzaco.
-Following Allardyce’s departure, The Daily Telegraph published further details of much wider-reaching corruption through English club football, claiming that eight Premier Leaguemanagers accepted “bungs” for player transfers.
-Barnsley assistant manager Tommy Wright had taken a £5000 “bung” in order to arrange for the club to purchase part-owned players from a fictitious Far East firm.
-Queens Park Rangers manager Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink had agreed to become an ambassador for a fictitious Far East sports company involved in third-party ownership of players in exchange for £55,000, subsequently also discussing potential tax avoidance involving his bank account in the Netherlands.
-Leeds United chairman Massimo Cellino was shown on video agreeing to sell 20% of the club in order to work around third-party player ownership rules.I mean, I can go on and on. There’s so insanely much corruption in football, so believing games that have insanely perfect outcomes can’t be rigged is beyond stupid.
I’m not disagreeing with you; I know theres corruption at Fifa, its one of the most corrupt organisations on the planet. You’ve also got players who shouldn’t be betting on fixtures doing just that and only a handful have been caught. My point was that you can’t just say a game was fixed because a team in bad form managed to win a game against a favourite. That’s football, freak results happen on the regular. Your other points about Fifa are bang on and l agree with what you wrote.
127th April 2019 at 9:25 pm #62930Cancelling withdrawals – Yup. 100% accurate on some cases. Some times its legit, but sometimes its casinos messing with you. For big licenced casinos its usually the former but it can feel like its on purpose.
How would you know that big casinos are usually the former ?
As i have had many conversations with them about why they do what they do. Videoslots for example processes within 30 minutes, Casumo has a lock policy. Big Multilicenced firms have a good record for withdrawal speed. Its the lower end ones that think youll cashout more.
You should find me on Linkedin Mr B, youll see i am very VERY outspoken in my industry about this topic. I hate it. Everyone should allow a lock feature. But some casinos are not forward thinking.
27th April 2019 at 9:36 pm #62934the reason is those people do not want to admit to themselves they most likely lost their money with no chance of ever winning.
The reality is, is that it’s the conspiracy theorists are the ones in denial, they blame everyone but themselves because they lost money.
Reality is that there is lots of evidence of gambling industry being dirty.
27th April 2019 at 9:56 pm #62935There is evidence of chefs spitting in food, prostitutes having STDs, bankers with bonsues, plasteres doing shit work, website designed making a crap one, there is flaws in every world in every industry.
Problem is in Gaming people see 1 and assume its the same everywhere. It isnt. Otherwise i wouldnt gamble.
27th April 2019 at 10:02 pm #62936There is evidence of chefs spitting in food, prostitutes having STDs, bankers with bonsues, plasteres doing shit work, website designed making a crap one, there is flaws in every world in every industry.
Problem is in Gaming people see 1 and assume its the same everywhere. It isnt. Otherwise i wouldnt gamble.
So which casinos do you recommend, and which casinos would you stay away from? And do you recommend staying away from any products they provide?
27th April 2019 at 10:15 pm #62937This reply has been reported for inappropriate content.
Are we still banging on about this?
27th April 2019 at 10:35 pm #62946This reply has been reported for inappropriate content.
Are we still banging on about this?lol what
27th April 2019 at 10:44 pm #62948This reply has been reported for inappropriate content. Are we still banging on about this?
lol what
I saw that on some previous replies too. Might be a bug, or someone clicked the report button instead of the quote/reply button. I’d imagine the report button triggers a “are you sure” button or something, but it might not.
As for your question, why not? It’s a good discussion to have.
27th April 2019 at 10:48 pm #6294927th April 2019 at 11:28 pm #62954There is evidence of chefs spitting in food, prostitutes having STDs, bankers with bonsues, plasteres doing shit work, website designed making a crap one, there is flaws in every world in every industry.
Problem is in Gaming people see 1 and assume its the same everywhere. It isnt. Otherwise i wouldnt gamble.
So which casinos do you recommend, and which casinos would you stay away from? And do you recommend staying away from any products they provide?
Videoslots, Casumo, bet365, Mr Green, Pokerstars, Grosvenor, Betvictor, CasinoHeroes, Betsson/Betsafe, Rizk/Guts of the top of my head are all perfect.
This list has hundreds of other i could add, most of which are ok.
As your in the UK, nearly all UKGC sites handle it all quite well. The issue comes when you venture further out to avoid gamban, or similar, and end up on unregulated sites or curacao sites by untrustable people.
28th April 2019 at 12:13 am #62956There is evidence of chefs spitting in food, prostitutes having STDs, bankers with bonsues, plasteres doing shit work, website designed making a crap one, there is flaws in every world in every industry.
Problem is in Gaming people see 1 and assume its the same everywhere. It isnt. Otherwise i wouldnt gamble.
So which casinos do you recommend, and which casinos would you stay away from? And do you recommend staying away from any products they provide?
Videoslots, Casumo, bet365, Mr Green, Pokerstars, Grosvenor, Betvictor, CasinoHeroes, Betsson/Betsafe, Rizk/Guts of the top of my head are all perfect.
This list has hundreds of other i could add, most of which are ok.
As your in the UK, nearly all UKGC sites handle it all quite well. The issue comes when you venture further out to avoid gamban, or similar, and end up on unregulated sites or curacao sites by untrustable people.
Betsson has a huge problem that makes me not play there: If you have started a withdrawal, and you then go to do a deposit, cancelling a withdrawal comes up along with the deposit methods. This is the most despicable thing I know, and I guarantee Betsson can’t be trusted. I have tons of documentation to prove they can’t be trusted as well.
Therefore you can’t trust MrSmith or Betsafe either.If you’re ever interested in talking about this, I’m willing to share what I know with you in a 1 on 1 chat/call.
28th April 2019 at 12:15 am #62957Eejit, what is your opinion of https://www.888.com/
The boast a lot of awards on their front page, as part of Cassava Enterprises in Gibraltar.
I know they are corrupt. I also know I have no intention of presenting evidence that proves they are corrupt. That however doesn’t make me a liar.
28th April 2019 at 12:22 am #62959@awesomeX id love to hear that. As they are the biggest brand in Europe for casino. They are a huge company, they have about 3,000 staff here.
@MrB Im not calling you a liar. I didnt list 888 for a reason. Ive heard some questionable things in the past, but recently they have been getting good press for buying a rival firm and paying out their players on bets the other firm voided. I know of the retained access to accounts after banning, and what i know of this is it wasnt intentional. Doesnt forgive them for it, and the 8mil fine was deserved. But casino systems are damn hard to get right. Doesnt validate it but its nice to be nice where you can.
28th April 2019 at 7:05 am #62976Nobody loses a 4-0 lead in the champions league. It just doesn’t happen. If you actually believe that a team can dominate and win 4-0, and then lose 6-1 3 weeks after, you should think about this again.
Have you seen the football leaks documents btw? You should have a look when you have time.This is the worst example to be honest, because a team like Barca are completely capable of demolishing any team on the planet on the right night.
and I’d also like to know what you think what kind of dirt you’d have to have on a team like PSG for them to throw a game?
Money isn’t a viable option in this case, I don’t reckon you can offer enough money to a club who have spent hundreds and hundreds of millions to attempt to win the Champions League. That’s the only reason they spend that money, they’re not gonna bow out on purpose.
28th April 2019 at 8:39 am #62985@awesomeX id love to hear that. As they are the biggest brand in Europe for casino. They are a huge company, they have about 3,000 staff here.
@MrB Im not calling you a liar. I didnt list 888 for a reason. Ive heard some questionable things in the past, but recently they have been getting good press for buying a rival firm and paying out their players on bets the other firm voided. I know of the retained access to accounts after banning, and what i know of this is it wasnt intentional. Doesnt forgive them for it, and the 8mil fine was deserved. But casino systems are damn hard to get right. Doesnt validate it but its nice to be nice where you can.
Just let me know how to get in touch with you, and we can arrange a conversation.
Nobody loses a 4-0 lead in the champions league. It just doesn’t happen. If you actually believe that a team can dominate and win 4-0, and then lose 6-1 3 weeks after, you should think about this again. Have you seen the football leaks documents btw? You should have a look when you have time.
This is the worst example to be honest, because a team like Barca are completely capable of demolishing any team on the planet on the right night.
and I’d also like to know what you think what kind of dirt you’d have to have on a team like PSG for them to throw a game?
Money isn’t a viable option in this case, I don’t reckon you can offer enough money to a club who have spent hundreds and hundreds of millions to attempt to win the Champions League. That’s the only reason they spend that money, they’re not gonna bow out on purpose.
What if the owners of PSG wanted Neymar so much that they threw the game in order to get him?
There is tons of dirt generally on PSG. PSG and Man City have broken the Financial Fair Play rules, but somehow it seems like FIFA/UEFA drags out the process of finding punishments for them. It all just seems to be watered down and dragged out so long that there’s not gonna be any real consequences. -
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