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[av aviad WANTED $7 Outlaw]

This is a topic which really interests me and I would love to hear feedback from people who have relevant information on this.

I always wonder how predetermined slots are, and if you get a bonus round is the outcome known from the moment you click to start or is it random?
Well I saw some messages from someone who has a partner in the gaming industry and he says that everything in slots is predetermined! even when you get a bonus round on millionaire no matter how many spins you end up having the result is known from the start. So there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHAT SO EVER TO GAMBLE YOUR SPINS! same with Chilli and every other game… if you suppose to end with 500X on your bonus you will end up with 500x no matter if you had 8 spins or 50 spins! (I actually noticed on Millionaire after having around 30 bonus rounds that the best wins I had were with 8 spins!).
So this is hard to believe but now I can even show you a video to prove how this is very true!
In the link below , watch at 20 :40 , where Chip gets the bonus on Dragon Fire , before he even picks the spins option the balance on the top right hand side where it says casino heroes is updated from 1459£ to 2870£! the exact 1400£ that he then ends up winning in the bonus round! So even before anything in the bonus round actually started the outcome was already updated in the balance! and there are few more examples in this video to show this (same with Genie Megaways…)
I would like to know your thoughts about this? I am surprised professional online streamers don’t seem to know this and they keep gambling away spins on millionaire and chilli and other slots for nothing…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMpdryMQscI&feature=youtu.be

 

[thunderball6 WANTED $272 Outlaw]

Can’t see chilli paying the same for 8 spins that it would for 24 if that’s what u getting at . Millionaire get the 50 it’s gonna be a different outcome than the 10 .

[MichaelLFC96 WANTED $114 Outlaw]

thunderball6 wrote:

Can’t see chilli paying the same for 8 spins that it would for 24 if that’s what u getting at . Millionaire get the 50 it’s gonna be a different outcome than the 10 .

But then what if the chances of getting to 50 are actually 100% behind the scenes but you collect for 40, like the bandit did?

For the record, I think they’re all ore determined, they just simply cannot be random.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

For the most part, slot bonus rounds are randomly pre-determined, that is winning the bonus and the amount you’ve won are indeed random but that win was already determined at the point the trigger lands, the bonus as you see it is just a presentation layer.

This does not apply to gamble features such as WWTBAM, in those cases each gamble on the ladder is a new random result. In this specific example, the odds as displayed to you by the “lifelines” are the actual odds the random outcome will play to.

 

[MichaelLFC96 WANTED $114 Outlaw]

argyl53 wrote:

For the most part, slot bonus rounds are randomly pre-determined, that is winning the bonus and the amount you’ve won are indeed random but that win was already determined at the point the trigger lands, the bonus as you see it is just a presentation layer.

This does not apply to gamble features such as WWTBAM, in those cases each gamble on the ladder is a new random result. In this specific example, the odds as displayed to you by the “lifelines” are the actual odds the random outcome will play to.

 

But even then, the odds are that random that almost everyone here has been booted off at 8 spins with over 90% chance of winning, which just cannot be true.

We’ll never really know, and of course there’ll always be skeptics, but I just think there’s absolutely no way that that gamble feature is random.

[thunderball6 WANTED $272 Outlaw]

What about when the bandit got a feature on the goonies . He gambled it to the top . So when he got that bonus it wasn’t predetermined to win 300 pound or whatever it was . Until he got to the top .

[MichaelLFC96 WANTED $114 Outlaw]

thunderball6 wrote:

What about when the bandit got a feature on the goonies . He gambled it to the top . So when he got that bonus it wasn’t predetermined to win 300 pound or whatever it was . Until he got to the top .

But then who knows if his free spins would’ve paid £300! ??

honestly nobody will ever know and that’s the beauty of it haha

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

Gambling Commission rules state that games are not allowed to mislead the player as to their odds of winning a gamble but there does seem to be something of a gray area in regards to this as I have seen gambles on slots that statistically would be very hard to believe are true odds. I have asked for clarification on this matter from an industry source and am waiting to hear back.

[notrege WANTED $41 Outlaw]

Blueprints 100% are:

Blueprint games: Predetermined Spin mods/Bonus / hidden bonus gamble percentages

[Biohazard WANTED $675 Outlaw]

I’m sure I read somewhere that the individual spins on certain BTG games (e.g. Extra Chili and Bonanza) are random in the bonus, each spin requests a new ticket with a unique outcome. Can anyone confirm this?

[thunderball6 WANTED $272 Outlaw]

Biohazard wrote:

I’m sure I read somewhere that the individual spins on certain BTG games (e.g. Extra Chili and Bonanza) are random in the bonus, each spin requests a new ticket with a unique outcome. Can anyone confirm this?

Yeah nick from BTG said it.

[Brekis2 WANTED $12 Outlaw]

One thing I noticed for sure is, millionaire is the bad guy here. If he decides to fuck with you, he will. So how he does that? Gives you a 50/50 on the first one and then 2 x win (too bad I can’t publish the screenshot from phone).

[av aviad WANTED $7 Outlaw]

You would think so but so far I got the most X wins on millionaire with 8 spins ! Once 600X and once 360X…

[av aviad WANTED $7 Outlaw]

Yes the odds are random and will display your chance of going  up the ladder but you’re in tire bonus round wins are already predetermined before you start choosing to go up the ladder !

[ayma4quit WANTED $47 Outlaw]

How can that be true when Bandit had numerous offers in his Deal or No Deal bonus before actually winning a tenner…..He had the option to collect various amounts throughout the bonus??

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