Has the streaming bubble burst?

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  • #82691
    Green2711 WANTED $492
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    eejit101 wrote:

    trr420 wrote:

    none of yous retarded cunts can explain how what i say is wrong. Yous all just seem to think because something is the way it is now that it will stay that way. Lol. Plus yous are narrow minded clowns with no real understanding of how the real industry works. You will all understand a lot more in 2021.

    I can…

     

    I work in gambling. UKGC wont restrict streaming on Twitch or Youtube. For three reasons.

    1 – It can be restricted by the sites for over 18s. Just like porn. Or… vaping.They have performed the regulated task of making it hidden from public consumption. Same as alcohol and cigarettes. Its just online so easier to get around.

    2 – The sites have no legal obligation to do fuck all. UKGC can control the act of gambling. They can control the age of gambling. They cannot control who watches gambling. Thats not even close to feasible. Anyone can walk into a casino with ID over 18. Anyone can in Vegas. BUT – once you start betting or gambling those stakes are controlled by the regulators. NGC, UKGC, MGA, whoever. They impose themselves on your actions, not your eyes.

    3 – They can ban TV advertising before 9pm (I am a fan of this, I hate kids getting into gambling) as it affects children. Twitch and youtube with the 18+ get around this.

     

    So while i admire your ideas, and your points are sometimes accurate, the end result here is a made up idea.

     

    What will actually happen is UKGC will continue to impose large fines on casinos for DPA/GDPR/AML breaches. They will then start to impose more fines for advertising (Which is starting now). This makes them their money. Some also goes to charity, so thats cool. While this happens smaller casinos and licences will pull out of the UK due to increasing costs and regulations, restrictions on bonuses and platforms, and the VAT costs (huge). This will leave a monopoly by GVC, Paddy/betfair/stars/fanduel/skybet/skyvegas/whaetver else PPBF owns, and sites of a size of casumo. Shit videoslots are considering pulling out of the UK.

     

    Question – why 2021? And what “real industry” do you mean by your statement? Bit vague, give me a bit of detail?

     

    Hey Eejit,

    I’m sure you’ve heard about the changes in RTP to VS once again (there’s a post in the forums) and I’m just wondering is it actually legal for a casino to change RTP without informing there customers prior or once it’s been done? Really don’t know how these fuckers keep getting away with shitting on their customers..

    #82706
    trr420 WANTED $7
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    1. It’s not the kids under 18 with the problem. It’s the grown ups and religious groups. The Charities and Government.

    2. If the sites weren’t obliged to do fk all, then why are they constantly finding excuses to take videos down or delete streamers accounts?

    3. The UKGC can do what they want… when the Government tells them they can do it. If they can ban TV advertising before 9pm then they will most definitely block gambling altogether on youtube within the UK. It’s common sense. There might be ways around it like VPN’s and so on… but i assure you that in under 2 years a lot of people will be eating their words.

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    #82707
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    No you can’t guarantee anything you clown. ????

    #82708
    trr420 WANTED $7
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    ok. I am entitled to my opinion. I think you will find i have more of a chance of proving myself to be correct than you do yourself. The reason i say this, is due to the fact you have nothing but hope. I have facts. Also, i haven’t even heard much if any detail in how you can assure others that you are right and i am wrong. I say ‘i’, as i am the only one here expressing myself with such opinions. However, i think you will find the are a lot of people working to make this happen as we talk.
    Now if ya don’t mind i’m off to watch the latest video on youtu…… ohh yea, It was taken down again.

    #82709
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    You said it wasn’t an opinion, you said it was fact you absolute fucking troglodyte.??? now what you’re saying it’s just an opinion? Are you already hedging your bets on being wrong?

    what hope? I don’t care if they stop streaming… I just like to laugh at tinfoil hat wearing Cunts like yourself, you’ve a lot to say but provide no evidence, I can do that too.

    #82710
    trr420 WANTED $7
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    You can’t be that stupid. Surely to fck you are winding me up. If i talk the truth or speak a fact, i express my opinion based on truth and fact. Do you know people disagree with facts? When they do i express my opinion (say i tell flat earthers that the world is not flat) i am stating a fact with my opinion.
    Prove i am a tinfoil hat wearing cunt then. Make sure you do it with all your facts.

    #82713
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    I can’t predict the future, I’m not mystic meg like yourself… I’ll live in the present… where I’m correct. And you can dream of being right one day, have a nice day Mr. Dassey.

    #82719
    Anonymous WANTED $19
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    trr420 wrote:

    You can’t be that stupid. Surely to fck you are winding me up. If i talk the truth or speak a fact, i express my opinion based on truth and fact. Do you know people disagree with facts? When they do i express my opinion (say i tell flat earthers that the world is not flat) i am stating a fact with my opinion. Prove i am a tinfoil hat wearing cunt then. Make sure you do it with all your facts.

    All i can say is you have bent them all over with fact , unfortunately you wont win here because they all tongue punch bandits fart box this is why his utube comments are disabled because he cant take any criticism before he is on his high horse or he brings his hammer down , the only people here love him and everything he stands for . Open your eyes you dull fucks gambling is changing fast everyone is having trouble providing sufficient wealth records across all streamers platforms. Bonus buys have gone because streamers pushed it that much it become a problem every fucking stream went Down that road , but you can still do a 1000 pound spin and that will always be the case because not even the bandit will do 100 x1000 pound spins to try and get a bonus.  Ban me I dont care there is never any content or it’s been taken down its only every young videos, and you cant have a conversation here because they all love you to much     logging out for life on

    #82722
    Haz40 WANTED $1,167
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    Messheaduk wrote:

    trr420 wrote:

    You can’t be that stupid. Surely to fck you are winding me up. If i talk the truth or speak a fact, i express my opinion based on truth and fact. Do you know people disagree with facts? When they do i express my opinion (say i tell flat earthers that the world is not flat) i am stating a fact with my opinion. Prove i am a tinfoil hat wearing cunt then. Make sure you do it with all your facts.

    All i can say is you have bent them all over with fact , unfortunately you wont win here because they all tongue punch bandits fart box this is why his utube comments are disabled because he cant take any criticism before he is on his high horse or he brings his hammer down , the only people here love him and everything he stands for . Open your eyes you dull fucks gambling is changing fast everyone is having trouble providing sufficient wealth records across all streamers platforms. Bonus buys have gone because streamers pushed it that much it become a problem every fucking stream went Down that road , but you can still do a 1000 pound spin and that will always be the case because not even the bandit will do 100 x1000 pound spins to try and get a bonus.  Ban me I dont care there is never any content or it’s been taken down its only every young videos, and you cant have a conversation here because they all love you to much     logging out for life on

    I’m sure you’ll get your request.

    #82725
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    Messheaduk wrote:

    trr420 wrote:

    You can’t be that stupid. Surely to fck you are winding me up. If i talk the truth or speak a fact, i express my opinion based on truth and fact. Do you know people disagree with facts? When they do i express my opinion (say i tell flat earthers that the world is not flat) i am stating a fact with my opinion. Prove i am a tinfoil hat wearing cunt then. Make sure you do it with all your facts.

    All i can say is you have bent them all over with fact , unfortunately you wont win here because they all tongue punch bandits fart box this is why his utube comments are disabled because he cant take any criticism before he is on his high horse or he brings his hammer down , the only people here love him and everything he stands for . Open your eyes you dull fucks gambling is changing fast everyone is having trouble providing sufficient wealth records across all streamers platforms. Bonus buys have gone because streamers pushed it that much it become a problem every fucking stream went Down that road , but you can still do a 1000 pound spin and that will always be the case because not even the bandit will do 100 x1000 pound spins to try and get a bonus.  Ban me I dont care there is never any content or it’s been taken down its only every young videos, and you cant have a conversation here because they all love you to much     logging out for life on

    Can tell your head is messed up, a very apt name.

    You must be the Mr. Avery to his Mr. Dassey. Brain dead cunts.

    #82726
    trr420 WANTED $7
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    Ohhh, i see the problem now. You are living in the present, which means you can’t be wrong. You must be loaded, since all them people that are paid to predict the future in the world of gambling can’t be right. Ya know the fcking people coming up with the odds? I am not even telling lies and i know this might blow your mind and break your interweb connection, but the people predicting the odds for the Bookmakers is literally how gambling works. They look at all the stats, recent events, facts and examine plenty of avenues to come to a decision. The bookmakers don’t employ people to make up odds based on the fact they are living in the present. No No, that’d be too easy… they prefer to risk their business going bust by predicting an outcome before it happens.

    #82727
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    Good thing I’m not a bookmaker. What are your odds on the nonsense you’re spouting? Must be 1/100 I reckon, because you’ve made up stuff in your head and believe them to be factual.

    #82784
    eejit101 WANTED $312
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    im confused, and i wont call you a cunt if that helps, even though im, as far as I know, the only person who works for a casino group here.

    Ill give you some actual facts.

    1 – Casino Streamers did not get bonus buys banned. The responsible gambling commission did. And I agree with it. This has 0 to do with streamers.

    2 – The UKGC will not ban streamers. They are not performing a harmful act. They may well impose an advertising or link ban in future, thats 100% possible. But they wont ban streaming.

    3 – Youtube takes videos down due to copyright complaints, music, or people either trying to claim it was their content, or, as in bandits case, people reporting the video. youtube does not have teams of people sat around performing checks, its automated. Youtube is just one big Cloud system. (Fact, i know someone working with youtube)

    4 – Bookmakers risk small to gain big. You claim you know how it works but it doesnt. Now here you might actually learn something. Lets say bet365 takes a 1million bet on United to beat Chelsea including extra time at Evs. Chelsea to do the same are 5/6. What bookmakers do is they go and lay off 900k of this bet on other sites using a variety of ways. This ensures that no matter what the result they dont lose. If it is smaller stakes they are happy to take the risk. And if its a multi-option event (horse race, golf) they will only lay golfers on exchanges or horses if one has way too much riding on it. This is how they win. They dont risk it all on people getting odds. There are systems, AI, weird algorhythms working shit out that mere mortals (including me) dont understand so cant explain. But when it spits out the odds you know there is ALWAYS a 9% house edge. So they always win. On average. 9% of each bet. Think of all bets ever made and take 9% of it. Thats a lot.

    5 – You clearly dont work in gaming or you would know this. So I would love to know your fact origins please?

    6 – Source of wealth. You know why its harder now? As people are self employed. Bandit gambles for a living. So hard to prove thats sustainable. As for why now? REsponsible gambling again. Source of wealth is a vital aspect of not just the KYC check, but also AML (anti money laundering). This has to be done, and its very rightly, done before any cashout. I can also tell you for a 100% fact that casinos have no access to slot spins. Its all ont he servers of the provider.

     

    As for me, you can google what i do, or read here. I know how casinos work, I know how they are designed. I can fully tell you that pending withdrawals are so you cancel them. However I can also tell you that it does actually take 10-20 minutes for a real person to process your withdrawal in accordance with AML and KYC checks.

    #82786
    Liamb88 WANTED $1
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    Canny believe I just read all six pages eh this nonsense. Cunts in tin hints, messiahs, mystic megs, jeezo.. am away fur a lie doon!

    #82828
    trr420 WANTED $7
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    I don’t know why you think you can tell anybody wondering when a ban is coming that you are qualified to assure them that there won’t be one. You work in a Casino… so what. Fact is that even the Casinos owners might be left in the dark, never mind the people they employ.

    1. I didn’t say they did. However, i do believe the people that made the decision did so based on what they could see. That was streamers content.

    2.The UKGC will not ban streamers. They are not performing a harmful act. ……… You say that, but the people trying to get gambling being advertised by any means banned will disagree. They are literally going to make the valid point that gambling streams is  gambling advertising. The only real reason they exist is so that the Casinos can get business. A bit like advertising on TV before 9pm. Soon it will be unheard of.

    3.You are wrong. Starting from donkeys ago youtube have been removing videos due to advertising and links. Due to the fact people are making money by getting other Adults over 18 to sign up to Casinos. Everybody knows that. I agree there is also the issue of certain music, language and so on that will get a video pulled down… but the main issue is advertising gambling and providing links to sign up (for a special deal). All gambling, including online Poker. Nobody could have predicted black Friday. Not the same to be said concerning slots or other forms of none skill related gambling.

    4. I actually knew most of that.

    5. I don’t need to work in gambling to predict the future of Affiliation markets concerning gambling. I don’t know why you seem to think because you work for a Casino that you can assure millions of people that the UK GOVERNMENT are going to be unable to stop the 24 hours per day affiliation links and advertising of gambling. They already are- and will continue to do so!! In fact, to the point where affiliation and advertising of Casinos to people OVER 18 will NOT be allowed at all. Common sense really. As much as that might upset people, that is fact. The UK  Government stopped big Tobacco, do you think they can’t stop big Casinos? The UKGC are nothing really, they literally only rake in millions for the Government. When the Government tell them to, the UKGC will be the people advertising the end of Affiliation by any tom DICK or harry with a fckn internet connection. It is one ugly as fck business to be in “when considering ” the pain caused OR THAT CAN BE CAUSED  by any cunt with an internet connection that spammed the fck out of somebody’s email account causing a serious addiction. It can’t be compared to porn, tobacco or alcohol and drugs. It is totally a league of it’s own and any wanker out to harm others to make a quick buck can get involved. NOT FOR LONG, TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.

    6. You are wrong. Just because you work for a Casino doesn’t actually mean you know the ugly truth. Unless the Bandit quit his job and started gambling for a living in the last 6 months, i don’t even understand how you think that is a reasonable excuse.

    I’m not coming back to comment any further. There is too many people here that will be offended by the truth or try and come up with excuse after excuse. They will claim to know what they are talking about because they work for a Casino. Pretty sure the actual Bookmakers  thought they knew where they stood with the UK Government until they had to be forced to reduce the stakes on FOBT’S. Lol, the Casinos thought the war wasn’t big enough to force a 2 pound max stake and now thousands have lost jobs, shops were shut and continue to close UK wide.

    WHY DO YOU THINK THEY REFUSED TO LOWER THE STAKES ON FOBT’S TO A TENNER MAX BET? IT WAS BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE UP AGAINST.

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