I’m back and I have issues ?

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    Anonymous WANTED $483
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    Let’s start by saying it’s nice to be back, and I’ve missed this place and you guys loads. I’ve had a few weeks away now, and my head is fully back to normality.(kinda) ?

    I will be posting 2 separate topics on here. Both explaining and fully clarifying what the facts and full transparency is. This one will be regarding my work life and the accusations. And the other will be discussing highly exadurated slander made against me. Please keep comments on each topic separate. (Stick to the topic) Thx

    In no way did I honestly ever want to discuss these things on here. But due to circumstances out of my control, it has now been made fully apparent to me that I must.

    So @Seedy please do not lock or delete these threads. I’ve been a valid member here for a long time, and I need to validate myself once and for all. If not for others, then just to put my mind at ease. Ty buddy ??

    This forum to me is a place we’re I vent. Its is a place where I feel I can be myself. This   is a community that helps me learn and have conversations that I wouldn’t ever have with my real life friends. To me It’s completely separate from my true life. BIAM/TGC are private life’s for me. It’s a getaway. But I made a naive mistake by posting about my real life. And it caused a shit storm in my personal life.

    I am only doing it “once more” because I have to. I have no option. But I will never do this again.

    I will also say. To the people who think I’m some kind of nut case with mental health issues. You are completely wide of the mark. Sure I get depressed, and yeah sure I get triggered by the slightest thing. But let me say this as plainly as I can. I’m a regular guy with regular/slightly higher emotions. But I have naivety, displaced passion, and a punch of paranoia that makes no sense sometimes. I don’t know how else to put it. I’m just a bit weird ?(aren’t we all)

    I don’t know whatsoever what has been said about me, as all the threads here or on TGC have been deleted. And I’ve only been back looking on the forums for 2 days now. What I do know, is what I’ve been told has been said. But I’m basically in the dark on both forums.

    Some of you probably know about what has been happening with me over the past 3 weeks or so. But most don’t. So I’m gonna explain a few things, and put these highly convoluted story’s straight once and for all. Most won’t care, and will try to probably bait me. But I feel I must have my own back now, seeing as I’ve been made out to be some kind of monster by others here and on TGC.

    They either don’t know me, don’t care for the full facts, or have an agenda against my character, due to me being a tool in the past.

    I’m just a dick who made a few bad decisions. I’m going to tell absolutely zero lies, and I won’t exadurate once. I’m gonna keep things simple and tell my whole story. It’s gonna be a long one, So get a cuppa and sit back.

    Here goes. All truths no lies and ?% clarity.

    8 months ago I was looking for work, and one of my close friends offered me one at his place. I gratefully accepted, and went on to be operations manager at his timber charring company. Things were ok for a few weeks, I wasn’t in a great wage, but it was sufficient enough for now. And my mate said it would increase. I quickly realised that the professionalism of my friend was in no way up to snuff. I had weekly arguments with him on how the operational aspects of the jobs were being done. His decisions were making my job harder, and it certainly needed to be talked about.

    Firstly, let me say this….I know, and am fully aware of my arrogance. It stems from my 15 yrs as head chef, and it’s something I try to suppress nowadays. This is in no way a fault I have. It’s just part of who I am. But everybody in my life accepts it. So this is nothing new here to anyone, including the friend I was working for. We all have flaws. I’m basically marmite. But anyone who really gets to know me likes me a lot. And I have many friends. I’m not bigging myself up here, it’s just the truth.

    Anyway, let me outline the problems we had at our workplace. And that asked him to fix….

    (every fucking day)

    A huge water drainage issue which affected the product we were selling.
    Insufficient storage of the product.
    Insufficient disposal facilities .
    Incorrect Gas masks, which affected my health greatly.
    Zero extraction in the facility, which created a huge problem daily.
    Fire extinguishers being removed due to unpaid bills.
    Compressors being removed due to unpaid bills.
    Customer orders being wrong, due to incorrect planning and organisation.
    Insufficient tools for the job we did.
    No meetings to discuss the orders/projects we had.
    Unrealistic time frames for completion of the orders.

    I could list literally 10-20 more highly sufficient issues that I brought up weekly with him. And all I ever got as a response was “It’s my company, I will do what I want” “Just do it” “Don’t question me” “il sort it next week”

    Basically fuck off. So on a daily basis I had to swallow my opinion, be mad all the time, and just shake my head constantly. This is the environment I was working in. Always fighting for things we needed. And the staff I had in the unit were in no way professional or good at their jobs. They were nice lads but didn’t give a fuck. Always calling in sick. Always doing the job wrong. And always being unproductive. They saw how the owner/my mate was running it. And basically thought “he don’t give a fuck so why should I”

    It didn’t matter what I said to them. They just went off how the owner was doing things.

    Within a few months we started to get busy, and I asked if I could give my brother in-law a job. After a few weeks he said yes. And he was employed to help me with the product and do some deliveries. He was great at the job. But a few months in he started taking days off, asking to leave early and leaving the unit for a few hours at lunch times. I thought something was up, but kept it to myself. Down the line a few months later my brother in law asked me if he could have a couple of extracting fans I had at home from a previous project. I said sure, but why? He said he couldn’t tell me acting weird. So I just said ok fine. And thought nothing of it from then.

     

    A few weeks later my mate/owner of the company said he was going on holiday for a few weeks. And basically left a hundred quid for petty cash. Asked me to WhatsApp him a screenshot of the business emails inbox every day…and fucked off to Turkey.  “Honestly” said nothing to me about how to run the admin side of the job and fucked off! So you can imagine my frustration and anger at him. Not only was he unprofessional, but he didn’t seem to care. So I just thought to myself “I’ve been banging my head on the wall with him for months now, why fucking bother anymore” I just kept my mouth shut. It was pointless saying anything at this point.

    So I sent him the screenshots and he asked me to email all the customers we had. I did it. Didn’t want to do it, but fuck it I did it all. I forwarded all the emails I’d sent to customers to him personally. Every single one. And he was extremely happy with the outcomes and the professional manner I was doing when corresponding with them. I closed several sales, and was in talks with a dozen more. On each email I gave the customer the business number, and my own personal number on each correspondence. I had to look through my mates/owners previous emails with certain customers to get a feel for the job, pricing etc. And to have an idea about their projects. The owner knew all this. And he was extremely happy. I even changed our sample packs to look more pleasing, added covering letters with each one, and sent him a photo of what I was doing. Again he was very happy with how I was running the ship. And even gave me a small bonus.

    A few days later my brother in law was acting weird again. And he finally let slip what he was up to. He said he and my step sister were deep in the process of opening basically a carbon copy of my mates business model without my knowledge. And said my step sister (his wife) said she would tell me in her own time. I said WTF are u serious? He said “yeah that’s what I needed the extractor fans off you for, and me and ya step sister have been building the new company for weeks now”

    I just shook my head and said ok whatever. A few days later I’d thought about things and I said to him. “That’s shady as fuck mate, why did you do it behind my back?” He said “just let ya sister tell you in her own time.”

    My head was battered!

    Anyway…..Fuck me this is long, but stay with me ?it will all make sense In the end. I have to be fully transparent here with the facts and full story.

    When my mate/owner of the company returned from holiday he said thanks for the great work I’d done.

    And we now had a fuck load of work on.

    I asked if we could sit down to discuss moving forward and the work load.

    He basically blanked me saying he was busy and had other things to do. Again I was frustrated and angry. So I went home after work and sent him a long winded WhatsApp recording, asking for a small wage rise, to explain how I was feeling, to fix the issues we had, and to basically ask him to be more hands on and professional. It wasn’t in any way a bad recording. I even stated how much I loved the job. And stated he was a good friend. Just shit at being professional.

    He said he wasn’t going to listen to it!

    By now I assume you can see how much anger I had towards him.

    The next day we sat down together in the office, and I asked him everything I had said in the recording. He said no to most, but yes to some. Said he would give me half what I asked for and the other things can wait!

    I said “look mate I’m not happy, I’ve stated things need to change for months now. I’m going home to think about what I want to do”

    He gave me a lift home and said “see ya tomorrow mate”

    He ?% knew I was going to leave.

    And personally my head was now in 2 minds that I was gonna ask my step sister to invest with her. I was mad as fuck and wanted to fuck him over. If not by sales then by saying “look at how much better I can run things away from you”

    That evening my mate/owner of the company, sent me a message basically “thanks for your work, but you fired” saving face cos he knew I was leaving saying……

    I had changed the sample packs without his permission.

    I had given my personal number to customers without his permission.

    Looked through his emails without his permission.

    Basically stating bullshit reasons for firing me.

    This made my mind up fast. I didn’t even text him back. I was angry, wanted revenge and I didn’t care. So then I had talks with my step sister and we came to an agreement that after my investment, I would be a third owner of the new business.

    I then wrote on both forums what I was doing, slating my previous employer, and stated the name we were using  for the company.

    This caused a shit storm. As my naive mind didn’t realise that me using the company name would come up on a google search. So my previous employer and my step sister eventually got wind of it and saw it.

    Let me say…. and point blankly say, when I wrote here and on TGC about the new company and my mate, I had no idea that they would ever see it. And it was meant to be private. Basically slagging a mate off behind their back. We all fucking do it!

    I now fully regret doing it, but it’s no biggy.

    But as you can imagine, them finding what I’d written didn’t go down well. ?

    My mate went ballistic, and his wife even sent me a highly threatening voicemail. Which if I didn’t know the full story I would have done to me too.

    Now that my mate had found out about the new company. My step sister started going off at me, and fully blamed me for her husband now being fired from my mates work. Even though it was her and his own fault. I mean WTF? Did I open the fucking company? I just brought forward the inevitable.

    Then My dying dad got involved, and we are now no longer talking again due to him taking my step sisters side. And having a nasty argument over the phone with him. HONESTLY Breaks my fucking heart.

    So that’s all fucked up again.

    I no longer speak to my father, my mate, his wife, my step sister or my brother in-law.

    All because of what? What did I do that was unbelievably morally wrong? I made a silly mistake and that’s it.

    I’ve not explained this fully transparent and full truth story to anyone. And I’m interested to hear what you guy’s have to say. So please leave a comment if you managed to read it all.

    Like I said at the start. There are no lies here, no exadurations or any non facts. Everything I’ve said here is exactly how it happened.

    JB

    #75307
    Anonymous WANTED $483
    Inactive

    And yeah I’m no longer involved with the new company. I was never involved really. All I got was a jumper with the company name on it. And had no say in how things were done.

    Im going back to cheffing!

    #75308
    Winningbird WANTED $574
    Outlaw

    No need to explain yourself JB, this is between you, your family and the person you used to work for. Ignore what people say unless they are personally involved.

    Your sister and her other half should have known better than to copy a business they work for. I’m sure it’s in 99% of work contracts that you can’t set up a similar business for up to 6 months after you left the current company. I remember seeing it in my contact for the job I’ve just had to leave. They would have got bollocked for it anyway.

    Hope you’re ok JB.

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    #75313
    Anonymous WANTED $483
    Inactive

    Winningbird wrote:

    No need to explain yourself JB, this is between you, your family and the person you used to work for. Ignore what people say unless they are personally involved.

    Your sister and her other half should have known better than to copy a business they work for. I’m sure it’s in 99% of work contracts that you can’t set up a similar business for up to 6 months after you left the current company. I remember seeing it in my contact for the job I’ve just had to leave. They would have got bollocked for it anyway.

    Hope you’re ok JB.

    Thx WB. I feel I have to explain things ? % truthfully because My previous employer and my sister have been talking in both forums talking shit about me. Exadurating things without knowing the full facts.

    I’ve been away from both forums for weeks now. And I’ve just come back to all this shit lol.

    Not knowing the FULL story behind this mess has created a convoluted mess that people have jumped on.

    But yeah private is meant to be private. I just felt like I needed to stand up.

    #75317
    Eightblack WANTED $446
    Outlaw

    Good to have you back dude, legit missed you x

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    #75318
    Djneeds WANTED $55
    Outlaw

    Can we have it on audio book next time ? well, id like to say from my point of view youve done nout wrong, like you said just sped up the inevitable… your just a grafter whos tried to help everyone! And just been hung up as a fig 11 down range and taken all the shots.

    People over react to everything nowadays, stick to been you.

    Sorry that everythings gone to shite! And GL with whatever your gonna do or whoever your going to piss off next ?

     

     

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    #75319
    Jk90 WANTED $25
    Outlaw

    Chin up mate,

    You know how people are behind there keyboards?.

    But if u post about personal life in a public forum then ur asking for shit,

     

    Whats done is done dont rise to the shit ppl post on a forum and try get ur relationships back on track

    Good luck mate?

     

     

    Ps: what was the other project that needed extraction fans ?????

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    #75325
    Alphadog WANTED $11
    Outlaw

    Loose lips sink ships!

    The moral is next time keep your f***ing mouth shut. Haha

    Sometimes you have to play your cards close to your chest and be sly.

    You owe nobody anything. I trust nobody. Everyone is out for themselves. I once had the same work partner for over 20yrs. And wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him in the end.

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    #75333
    Anonymous WANTED $483
    Inactive

    Yeah I should have never posted any of my private life here or at TGC. I should have just kept my mouth shut. Absolute brain fart.

    But thx for reading the full story guys. Atleast now everyone knows the full story.

    Nice to be back ?

     

    #75335
    benq99 WANTED $229
    Outlaw

    put it behind you mate life is to short. welcome back

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    #75338
    Winningbird WANTED $574
    Outlaw

    I never saw anything about it, not on here anyway. I’d be more annoyed at them stalking you on forums hahah. Everyone has a bit of their private life on here anyway. We know I have health problems and anxiety, we know Haz travels the country selling fisheys, xbob is having a baby. Don’t feel bad for having a private life online. That’s why I keep all my social media profiles to my names on forums/twitch. People who I know don’t know who I am that way 🙂

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    #75345
    Malkychamp WANTED $486
    Outlaw

    Welcome back JB

    Not sure of your previous work history so wont go into that, you were at this job 8 months and basically running the place at times which is great. However… yes he was your mate and was prob great at 1st working with your mate but he was still your boss try to see it from his side also. Daily complaint basically telling him everything that hes doing wrong if he wasn’t a friend am almost certain you would have been fired months ago.

    I have had loads of different jobs in different sectors and 1 thing I picked up on about managers is most will not listen to new ideas even great ones if it is not there own. When i was at amazon for around 5 years there was a new manager every 6-8 months to keep things fresh, each time was a new guy who had no clue on the job who brought in new ideas that made the job harder each time just to make it their way. Ridiculous really guess its a power thing they like to feel in charge.

    Not sure why your family are no longer speaking with you about posting the name of the company on here why is that such a bad thing? Slagging of an ex employer why do they care about that? But if it takes something like that for a falling out that may not be the best partnership in the long run anyway to be honest.

    Good luck with future employment there is great bosses out there just need to find the right place 😀

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    #75349
    Andymitzy WANTED $64
    Spectator

    Hey mate I read it all and usually don’t really comment but had to log in for this. I would comment about u being right or wrong but in all of this it don’t even matter tbh and all that matters I feel is speaking to ur dad again!!! By the sounds of it he don’t have too long so even more of a reason to swallow ur pride even look a cunt or do anything to try and make things ok with him. That’s my only advice anyway mate. Gl pal

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    #75357
    Mickeyvondickey WANTED $181
    Outlaw

    Nice to see you back JB. Sorry to hear you’re having a shit time with personal issues mate. I read all your post and from a work perspective, you sound like you have your shit together.

    You want to do things properly and to a high quality, unlike your previous boss/mate.

    I know your step sister and brother in law are setting up for themselves but is there enough scope for you to set up shop also as your own company?

    I know you said you were going back to being a chef. Just seems a shame to give up on something you were clearly passionate about, you did to a high quality and could provide you with a very good living in the future.

    Cheers mate.

     

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    #75360
    Kingpab WANTED $149
    Outlaw

    Nice to see you back on here. JB I just logged on after putting kids to bed and have seen you have been barred from TGC and every post you did deleted.. What the hell happened over there in the last hour..?

    Hopefully going forward on here you can keep the chats going without upsetting the majority. Its been a bit boring with out you tbh.

     

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