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10th March 2019 at 2:52 pm #54007
All this toxic stuff is starting to make me you lot must be all Britney spears fans. ??
310th March 2019 at 2:56 pm #54008<p>All this toxic stuff is starting to make me you lot must be all Britney spears fans. ??</p>You better fuck off ????
110th March 2019 at 3:04 pm #54009I think these lyrics from a well known children’s tv show are relevant, can you name the show
“Now the world don’t move to the beat of just one drum what might be right for you may not be right for some”
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10th March 2019 at 3:09 pm #54010I think these lyrics from a well known children’s tv show are relevant, can you name the show
“Now the world don’t move to the beat of just one drum what might be right for you may not be right for some”
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Different strokes lmao
10th March 2019 at 3:14 pm #54013Lets not carry this pathetic shit on anymore.
Mr B let shit go mate. I have.
And ive had way more abuse thrown at me lol.
Sure i deserved most of it. But fuck it. Its only words.
Love is the way.
And finally please take a moment of silence for our 2 fallen comrades Andy and Blacko…….gone but never forgotten. ?
10th March 2019 at 4:18 pm #54040OK im going to do something totally unnecessary and 100% helpful for the forum. And i want call anyone a dick.
On the other thread was a post from JB, stating noone is the head of a casino or works in the industry. I do. We build slots, we own casinos, and we sell casino code.
I, for a period of 1 hour at any time this month, if you can decide between you, will SHOW you what the back office of a casino looks like. Ill show you what can and cant be done. Ill show you how players are tracked, how bonuses are given, how the CRM will send you bonuses through segmentation, and stop most of these stupid threads about casinos rigging things. They cant. If they could then 4 of the ones we built last month wouldnt have paid out at a loss.
As for the UKGC – they fined people for GDPR and DPA issues. We have had severe warnings about it. Gambling is super compliant now or else you lose your banking rights. The licence comes 2nd, if you have no bank you cant make money. Getting a bank account in gambling is next to impossible, it takes YEARS at times. And then they close down randomly for the European ones (See SataBank) due to AML reasons.
The real scam in casinos is money laundering. Nooone gives a shit about Joe Bloggs and his 100quid deposit to make them deposit again. They care about the top 5% who pay for the site upgrades so the rest of us can lose a couple of grand.
If anyone wants to see let me know, ill create a skype group. But if anyone starts to chat shit in it ill kick them out. You can see and ask questions but no insulting of anyone else. This would be my job, and im not spending it childminding.
1210th March 2019 at 4:27 pm #54042I, for a period of 1 hour at any time this month, if you can decide between you, will SHOW you what the back office of a casino looks like. Ill show you what can and cant be done. Ill show you how players are tracked, how bonuses are given, how the CRM will send you bonuses through segmentation, and stop most of these stupid threads about casinos rigging things. They cant. If they could then 4 of the ones we built last month wouldnt have paid out at a loss.
@eejit101 it doesn’t matter, pointless exercise. There is nothing and no volume of evidence you can show some people which will persuade them the games aren’t rigged and controlled. You could show them the full source code of a real slot they actually play and it wouldn’t make a difference, the answer would just be “oh yeah but the one I play is rigged, this is just what they show other people”, you’ll just be told you’re part of the conspiracy and cover up (which involves hundreds of people who’ve all taken an unbreakable vow of silence, I guess).
You cannot reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves in to. Honestly, don’t waste your time.
10th March 2019 at 5:21 pm #54044I’ve been asked to stay out of this now but for that to happen, you guys and your lack of proof opinions need to do the same. I can pick your posts apart with logic and experience but what’s the point when JB was right ? No one can win this argument because neither can show full proof. I can sit here and make things up, because I see you are doing it. Logics and experience. I can reference examples of fact and solid reasons to not trust the industry.
I can also maintain that “controlled random” is where guaranteed profit comes from as long as players play.
None of what I have said is conspiracy or unfathomable logic.
I won’t be dragged back into this topic unless I see people speaking lies or stating “truths that cannot be proven” or indeed if an insult is insinuated in my direction.
I would love to support the apparent notion that I am unintelligent too. I’m not even going to try and lead anyone to believe otherwise. I’m happy for me as a customer to be seen as abuse worthy scum by the industry but the happiness only qualifies if and when I can speak out about it. Regardless of who tries to call bs on it.
For me, the most telling thing was simply this :
JB got trolled into a ban. After said ban expired, the same member proved they want to troll JB into another ban. Insults were also thrown at me but I was able to circumvent a ban by not falling for the bait and so did JB this time.
No love is lost in the industry, but there’s love among the players.
110th March 2019 at 5:33 pm #54052It’s not a debate if you can’t present a logical argument for a particular subject.
Everyone is quite entiltied to have their opinion, however it is of no value to a debate if there are no facts to back it up and is massively innacurate.
10th March 2019 at 5:49 pm #54055Outside of my own threads, it’s not an argument I’m taking part in anymore.
The claim which originally piqued my attention was that a slot game cannot have a genuinely random result on each and every spin while also having a designed RTP of less than 100%.
I have conclusively proven that claim to be wrong. Not theoretically, not hypothetically, not in my opinion…..whether this is possible or not is no more a matter of debate or opinion than whether the squared length of the hypotenuse of a right angled triangle is equal to the sum of the squares of the two other sides. Yes it is, we can mathematically prove it to 100% certainty and it’s that simple. I’ve shown the maths of how a slot can be random and have a designed RTP and broken down the explanation in to plain English over a dozen times. Conspiracy theories on whether the whole industry is corrupt are an entirely different matter and don’t interest me.
10th March 2019 at 5:56 pm #54057OK im going to do something totally unnecessary and 100% helpful for the forum. And i want call anyone a dick.
On the other thread was a post from JB, stating noone is the head of a casino or works in the industry. I do. We build slots, we own casinos, and we sell casino code.
I, for a period of 1 hour at any time this month, if you can decide between you, will SHOW you what the back office of a casino looks like. Ill show you what can and cant be done. Ill show you how players are tracked, how bonuses are given, how the CRM will send you bonuses through segmentation, and stop most of these stupid threads about casinos rigging things. They cant. If they could then 4 of the ones we built last month wouldnt have paid out at a loss.
As for the UKGC – they fined people for GDPR and DPA issues. We have had severe warnings about it. Gambling is super compliant now or else you lose your banking rights. The licence comes 2nd, if you have no bank you cant make money. Getting a bank account in gambling is next to impossible, it takes YEARS at times. And then they close down randomly for the European ones (See SataBank) due to AML reasons.
The real scam in casinos is money laundering. Nooone gives a shit about Joe Bloggs and his 100quid deposit to make them deposit again. They care about the top 5% who pay for the site upgrades so the rest of us can lose a couple of grand.
If anyone wants to see let me know, ill create a skype group. But if anyone starts to chat shit in it ill kick them out. You can see and ask questions but no insulting of anyone else. This would be my job, and im not spending it childminding.
I would be really interested to see that mate, please let me know if and when you do it
10th March 2019 at 7:00 pm #54073For fucks sake. Just leave it alone you guys…..please.
My god.
Dont ever say i start shit out of nothing again. Cos this shit is over and your starting it all again with sly fucking digs.
Why? I mean wtf are you playing at Argyl and eejit?
All i said was no one knows really how the cogs turn inside online casinos. Including you mateys.
You think on a fucking open tour we are gonna meet the GC heads and game developers that will answer all our questions and be open about everything?
Get a grip lol. I mean cmon!
<span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>This topic is over in my book and i wont be commenting on it again. I will just happily agree to dissagree.</span>
If u cant handle that, then thats your issue. Just stop bringing my name into shit. Jb said this Jb did that. Just leave it now. Thx
End.
10th March 2019 at 7:18 pm #54080I’ve been asked to stay out of this now but for that to happen, you guys and your lack of proof opinions need to do the same. I can pick your posts apart with logic and experience but what’s the point when JB was right ? No one can win this argument because neither can show full proof. I can sit here and make things up, because I see you are doing it. Logics and experience. I can reference examples of fact and solid reasons to not trust the industry.
I can also maintain that “controlled random” is where guaranteed profit comes from as long as players play.
None of what I have said is conspiracy or unfathomable logic.
I won’t be dragged back into this topic unless I see people speaking lies or stating “truths that cannot be proven” or indeed if an insult is insinuated in my direction.
I would love to support the apparent notion that I am unintelligent too. I’m not even going to try and lead anyone to believe otherwise. I’m happy for me as a customer to be seen as abuse worthy scum by the industry but the happiness only qualifies if and when I can speak out about it. Regardless of who tries to call bs on it.
For me, the most telling thing was simply this :
JB got trolled into a ban. After said ban expired, the same member proved they want to troll JB into another ban. Insults were also thrown at me but I was able to circumvent a ban by not falling for the bait and so did JB this time.
No love is lost in the industry, but there’s love among the players.
I can. I work for one of the 3 biggest aggregators of games globally. And im impartial as i own no stake in any casino, and i gamble myself. How do i benefit? I know more here about casino back offices, player management and how casinos “work” than anyone else combined. I know as much on slots as Argyl and Bio, and we MAKE OUR OWN SLOTS. I KNOW HOW IT WORKS. And our staff play on slots. You baffle me. Im not going to stoop to name calling or insults, but the lack of acceptance of another point of view is confusing me. IF you want proof ill show it you. If you want to see source code, we can (If you sign an NDA as this system is worth about 5mil GBP)
For fucks sake. Just leave it alone you guys…..please.
My god.
Dont ever say i start shit out of nothing again. Cos this shit is over and your starting it all again with sly fucking digs.
Why? I mean wtf are you playing at Argyl and eejit?
All i said was no one knows really how the cogs turn inside online casinos. Including you mateys.
You think on a fucking open tour we are gonna meet the GC heads and game developers that will answer all our questions and be open about everything?
Get a grip lol. I mean cmon!
<span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>This topic is over in my book and i wont be commenting on it again. I will just happily agree to dissagree.</span>
If u cant handle that, then thats your issue. Just stop bringing my name into shit. Jb said this Jb did that. Just leave it now. Thx
End.
Wtf am i playing at with what? I made no digs, im offering to show you something, in real time, on a live casino, with literal proof of what you are telling me noone has proof of. I dont understand where the dig is, im taking an hour out of my day, and bear in mind for this type of stuff that would cost you £400 if i was to consult on this, to literally help you out with some knowledge and industry information so youll know more about gambling, and maybe itll help you stop. Or control it. Or see the truth behind your comments.
It’s not a debate if you can’t present a logical argument for a particular subject.
Everyone is quite entiltied to have their opinion, however it is of no value to a debate if there are no facts to back it up and is massively innacurate.
I got facts!
@Eightblack – Sure, if we get a few more in so i dont need to do it twice 🙂
110th March 2019 at 7:24 pm #54081I’ve been asked to stay out of this now but for that to happen, you guys and your lack of proof opinions need to do the same. I can pick your posts apart with logic and experience but what’s the point when JB was right ? No one can win this argument because neither can show full proof. I can sit here and make things up, because I see you are doing it. Logics and experience. I can reference examples of fact and solid reasons to not trust the industry.
I can also maintain that “controlled random” is where guaranteed profit comes from as long as players play.
None of what I have said is conspiracy or unfathomable logic.
I won’t be dragged back into this topic unless I see people speaking lies or stating “truths that cannot be proven” or indeed if an insult is insinuated in my direction.
I would love to support the apparent notion that I am unintelligent too. I’m not even going to try and lead anyone to believe otherwise. I’m happy for me as a customer to be seen as abuse worthy scum by the industry but the happiness only qualifies if and when I can speak out about it. Regardless of who tries to call bs on it.
For me, the most telling thing was simply this :
JB got trolled into a ban. After said ban expired, the same member proved they want to troll JB into another ban. Insults were also thrown at me but I was able to circumvent a ban by not falling for the bait and so did JB this time.
No love is lost in the industry, but there’s love among the players.
I can. I work for one of the 3 biggest aggregators of games globally. And im impartial as i own no stake in any casino, and i gamble myself. How do i benefit? I know more here about casino back offices, player management and how casinos “work” than anyone else combined. I know as much on slots as Argyl and Bio, and we MAKE OUR OWN SLOTS. I KNOW HOW IT WORKS. And our staff play on slots. You baffle me. Im not going to stoop to name calling or insults, but the lack of acceptance of another point of view is confusing me. IF you want proof ill show it you. If you want to see source code, we can (If you sign an NDA as this system is worth about 5mil GBP)
For fucks sake. Just leave it alone you guys…..please.
My god.
Dont ever say i start shit out of nothing again. Cos this shit is over and your starting it all again with sly fucking digs.
Why? I mean wtf are you playing at Argyl and eejit?
All i said was no one knows really how the cogs turn inside online casinos. Including you mateys.
You think on a fucking open tour we are gonna meet the GC heads and game developers that will answer all our questions and be open about everything?
Get a grip lol. I mean cmon!
<span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>This topic is over in my book and i wont be commenting on it again. I will just happily agree to dissagree.</span>
If u cant handle that, then thats your issue. Just stop bringing my name into shit. Jb said this Jb did that. Just leave it now. Thx
End.
Wtf am i playing at with what? I made no digs, im offering to show you something, in real time, on a live casino, with literal proof of what you are telling me noone has proof of. I dont understand where the dig is, im taking an hour out of my day, and bear in mind for this type of stuff that would cost you £400 if i was to consult on this, to literally help you out with some knowledge and industry information so youll know more about gambling, and maybe itll help you stop. Or control it. Or see the truth behind your comments.
It’s not a debate if you can’t present a logical argument for a particular subject.
Everyone is quite entiltied to have their opinion, however it is of no value to a debate if there are no facts to back it up and is massively innacurate.
I got facts!
@Eightblack – Sure, if we get a few more in so i dont need to do it twice ?
” I got facts! ”
Lmao you sound like me a few months ago when i said pokerstars was rigged.
Hahaha ?
10th March 2019 at 7:27 pm #54083JB, honestly take the offer and have a look! It’s unheard of for an opportunity like that to come up ?
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