Let’s have a nice, civil debate?

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    argyl53 WANTED $419
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    Was going to post this in JB’s thread but it was closed. But yeah, I am totally happy to have the debate on “you know what”.

    I don’t have any emotional stake in my beliefs about gambling. I wasn’t joking when in another thread I said if anyone could actually show online slots or table games are rigged, I’d be really happy. I’d be able to sue the casinos and providers for 15 years and six figures worth of losses. I’d have everything to gain by the conspiracists being right and nothing to lose, so why would I not want that?

    One of the accusations I endure frequently from certain posters when the topic of rigging comes up is that “neither side has any facts”, but this is simply not the case. There are many, many relevant facts when considering the question “is online gambling rigged?” – and when I say facts, I don’t mean my opinion or my word and I don’t mean vagueries or abstract truisms, I mean actual information you can go and check out and verify to be true for yourself. The only relevant facts I have where I am the source are my recorded stats of my personal gambling history, which are certainly a factor when I make up my mind, but I wouldn’t expect anyone else to consider them as evidence.

    So here are some of my facts:

    1. Slot and casino games are already guaranteed to be profitable in the long term by design. They therefore do not need to be rigged to make money.
    2. In UK licensed casinos and vendors, the outcome of each game is legally required to be random and this behaviour is required to be verified by an independent test house prior to market release. These tests include statistical analysis of a large number of game results in a manner I described in detail in another thread a few months ago – namely that bet and win outcomes conform in both distribution and total RTP with the game’s stated and ostensibly designed probabilities.
    3. The UK has some of the most robust regulation for the gambling sector in the world, with strict rules enforced by the regulator on technical specifications, auditing, identity verification, financial handling, player protection, mediation between players and casinos in disputes, software and platform security, integrity and protection against tampering.
    4.The Gambling Commission can and have levied heavy fines in the multi-million pound range against numerous large brand casinos for failing to adequately comply with these requirements.
    5. The software mechanisms for generating random results are robust and fully capable of producing acceptably statistically random results in a secure and unpredictable manner (i.e. they are not pseudo-random).
    6. UK licensed casinos and providers are required to keep detailed transactional logs and are subject to annual auditing to ensure software integrity has been met and game results / pay-outs correlate with those which are statistically expected from theoretical RTP.
    7. My personal stats show that the more spins I gave every game I ever played, the closer my personal results trended towards the theoretical RTP, in line with the mathematical expectation. I have also hit numerous big wins ranging from 1000-2500 times my spin stake on a wide variety of games.
    8. Games are hosted by providers independently of casinos and casinos have no technical ability or access to control or impact the operation of those games, or influence the results.
    9. Thousands of players hit huge wins on slot games every day. You can see hundreds on this website alone and those are just the ones from the immensurably tiny fraction of gamblers who happen to also be members of this site. If slot games are in some way rigged to the player’s disadvantage, the sheer volume of big, even life changing wins, seems to suggest the providers are not very good at doing it.
    10. The same slot games behave and perform consistently across many different casinos. We do not, for example, see a significant variation in RTP, feature frequency, average feature pay out etc. in the same game on multiple different casinos.

    There are many more, these are just some I can be arsed to type off the top of my head. Now if anyone would like to refute them point by point, I am sincerely listening.

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