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[brizman WANTED $46 Outlaw]

Ok..ok..before i start, i have lost a packet playing ‘live roulette’ through evolution gaming. I am now beginning to think that results can be controlled. I guess we’ve all seen the dodgy spin videos on you tube etc, ball movements..dreamcatcher..lightning roulette. My question is, who actually tests this ‘studio’. As far as I’m aware, it is not classed as casino, but studios in latvia? I know I’ll get the tin foil hat response, but I now genuinely believe the results are ‘controlled’. I have been playing for years, but i find myself losing on about every session i play. Any thoughts?

[Jamezwww WANTED $11 Outlaw]

This morning on netent auto roulette there was a run of around 20 reds with a couple 0s in between.. I just can’t get my head around it.. Have a screenshot if anybody wants to see..

[brizman WANTED $46 Outlaw]

I don’t know if they will get to see the stakes placed before spin or not, but I’m guessing that they will.

My thoughts are that they will hand out small wins to keep players interested, but stay away from losses and ensuring they turn a profit. So many weird ‘sticky’ hits as if ball is sucked into a number..i just cant believe it’s random now.

[brizman WANTED $46 Outlaw]

Just to update on evolution..i was checking my gameplay history..and found a weird anomaly..so my losing sessions when i was on lobby page were showing fine in data history, however..as soon as i entered ANY table the figures switched from losing figure to profit figure..?. I contacted support..and they stated ‘due to some irregularities’ and it is being investigated. I have attached both images. Very strange indeed…

[Biohazard WANTED $675 Outlaw]

brizman wrote:

I don’t know if they will get to see the stakes placed before spin or not, but I’m guessing that they will.

My thoughts are that they will hand out small wins to keep players interested, but stay away from losses and ensuring they turn a profit. So many weird ‘sticky’ hits as if ball is sucked into a number..i just cant believe it’s random now.

They don’t see the bets that are placed, and you also have to remember that this software is often spread across a number of different casinos and a lot of players – they can’t be out to dick everyone.

At the end of the day, I am a firm believer that these games are ran legitimately. Roulette has a house advantage anyway, they don’t need to fix the result to turn a profit!

[tyti1000 WANTED $43 Outlaw]

Every spin its profitable for them, on the long run. Sometimes goes strange runs, yes, like colour or section, its hard to be random. Stay away, maybe its the better thing to do.

[brizman WANTED $46 Outlaw]

I’m sure i seen a post from a site..where someone had managed to see a game i.d. across 2 different sites with same roulette ‘studio’, but both were showing different results. Who knows how it works really? We are basically at the mercy of people being honest aren’t we?

[brizman WANTED $46 Outlaw]

So 5 weeks have passed and still no further forward. Evolution refuse to email me chat transcripts. I have attached a screen shot of recent chat. I asked if they change negative session figures, to positive..to keep my account ‘losing’ as it thinks i have won enough already. To my amazement the support answered YES.

 

This may all be a software glitch of figures being displayed in the GUI. However, if anyone has used evolution..can they check there own account history? First, in the lobby area..then secondly, when you enter a table..and see if figures change? Thanks.

[sidders WANTED $21 Outlaw]

Jamezwww wrote:

This morning on netent auto roulette there was a run of around 20 reds with a couple 0s in between.. I just can’t get my head around it.. Have a screenshot if anybody wants to see..

Hiya Jamez,

At the moment i play roulette a lot. I have a strategy but it only involves colours and i do ok. I see what you mean about a massive number of the same colour coming out, its poop and you feel the wheel is against you……………..been there got the t-shirt 🙂

Red 48.65%

Black 48.65%

Green 2.70%

The odds above are for each spin, and the problem lays with us humans as we always try to find a pattern in life and sometimes this isn’t the case.

Hope you keep winning ………….good luck 🙂

 

[joshnadin WANTED $11 Outlaw]

Hi @Jamezwww,

I’ve worked in land based casinos for many years, the live tables online weather it be blackjack, roulette or any other table game are in no way different to going into your local casino; and they are definitely not rigged. As @Biohazard said, there is no need for the casinos to rig these games due to the house edge being in the casinos favour. Every table game is thoroughly vetted for accuracy and fairness by the gambling commission and other regulatory bodies and it wouldn’t be worth it for the casinos reputation for it to get out that something untoward was going on.

I must have span a roulette wheel tens, if not hundreds of thousands of times; and just like @sidders said, its human nature to recognise patterns when sometimes they just aren’t there. Some of the outcomes do seem just plain weird and as if something is going on, however every spin is entirely random and independent from any of the previous results. Some nights I could hit the same numbers and sections for hours, some nights every spin was all over the place.

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

joshnadin wrote:

Hi @Jamezwww,

I’ve worked in land based casinos for many years, the live tables online weather it be blackjack, roulette or any other table game are in no way different to going into your local casino; and they are definitely not rigged. As @Biohazard said, there is no need for the casinos to rig these games due to the house edge being in the casinos favour. Every table game is thoroughly vetted for accuracy and fairness by the gambling commission and other regulatory bodies and it wouldn’t be worth it for the casinos reputation for it to get out that something untoward was going on.

I must have span a roulette wheel tens, if not hundreds of thousands of times; and just like @sidders said, its human nature to recognise patterns when sometimes they just aren’t there. Some of the outcomes do seem just plain weird and as if something is going on, however every spin is entirely random and independent from any of the previous results. Some nights I could hit the same numbers and sections for hours, some nights every spin was all over the place.

What about that Jamaican card dealer that got caught cheating by taking the 2nd card instead of the top one live on an online casino?

Do we just say hey ho…well thats just one instance of rigging?

Gimme a break.

 

[joshnadin WANTED $11 Outlaw]

Just Basics wrote:

joshnadin wrote:

Hi @Jamezwww,

I’ve worked in land based casinos for many years, the live tables online weather it be blackjack, roulette or any other table game are in no way different to going into your local casino; and they are definitely not rigged. As @Biohazard said, there is no need for the casinos to rig these games due to the house edge being in the casinos favour. Every table game is thoroughly vetted for accuracy and fairness by the gambling commission and other regulatory bodies and it wouldn’t be worth it for the casinos reputation for it to get out that something untoward was going on.

I must have span a roulette wheel tens, if not hundreds of thousands of times; and just like @sidders said, its human nature to recognise patterns when sometimes they just aren’t there. Some of the outcomes do seem just plain weird and as if something is going on, however every spin is entirely random and independent from any of the previous results. Some nights I could hit the same numbers and sections for hours, some nights every spin was all over the place.

What about that Jamaican card dealer that got caught cheating by taking the 2nd card instead of the top one live on an online casino?

Do we just say hey ho…well thats just one instance of rigging?

Gimme a break.

 

Can’t say I’ve seen the clip of the specified card dealer taking the second card instead, but yes; I would say that is just one instance of ‘rigging’.

You would have to be rain man in order to successfully rig a deck of cards, both to have the physical skill to do so and the memory to recall one out of a possible near infinite possibilities of knowing which card is where in the deck; there are more atoms on the earth than different ways a deck of cards can be shuffled. The most skilled croupiers and dealers I know would never be able to recreate any instance of a game being rigged in such a way to benefit the casino or punter. It sounds to me like a poorly trained dealer and the instance comes down to human error and likely incompetence.

Plus, 99% of online and land based casinos now use auto shufflers to speed the game up and avoid any such instances.

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

So your saying theres a chance….

[joshnadin WANTED $11 Outlaw]

Just Basics wrote:

So your saying theres a chance….

There would be more chance of me fingering Rachel Riley tonight or winning the lottery 10 consecutive times in a row.. But yeah sure, a chance.

[brizman WANTED $46 Outlaw]

What i don’t get is people that say..’there is no need for casinos to rig games’. There is..GREED AND MONEY

Well there was no reasons for banks to rig interest rates..or company’s to rig test results to sell cars..or mp’s to fudge expenses. I’m afraid cheating goes on in everday life. Mostly at the highest level. If you think that there is no possibility that casinos rig or tamper outcomes to get more money, then that is just naive.

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