Rocknrolla calling out streamers

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  • #69154
    Oldmoon WANTED $27
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    argyl53 wrote:

    There’s been proof of casinos cheating in every single live casino game

    As they say on Wikipedia, citation needed.

    Live casinos do use tactics to keep you playing and definitely keep their best croupiers on a double shift if  they can spin out a big hitter but blatant cheating is pretty much non existent nowadays.one thing for sure though every live casino game ever invented there has been punters trying to cheat the casinos lol.regarding this Aussie turd who blatantly is on the payroll Its nothing new is it,personally I’d like to see the closer to home streamers come clean and fess up to their deceptions.recieving a salary from the casinos and accepting donations from mug punters is a disgrace.if anyone genuinely donates to this rabble then they need their head testing.

    #69156
    argyl53 WANTED $419
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    awesomex wrote:

    How do regulators discover this: <iframe src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/_7o-wpe5xZk?feature=oembed&#8221; width=”640″ height=”480″ frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe>

    Makes me think of Rocknrolla’s video where they stopped it mid spin, changed the ball and he started losing every spin, and lost 70k or something

    What, you seriously telling me you can’t see and hear the difference between how the first ball spins at 0:20 versus the vibrating ball at 1:36? Anyone who’s played roulette at least once would spot that a mile off.

    #69158
    awesomex WANTED $136
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    argyl53 wrote:

    awesomex wrote:

    How do regulators discover this: <iframe src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/_7o-wpe5xZk?feature=oembed&#8221; width=”640″ height=”480″ frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe>

    Makes me think of Rocknrolla’s video where they stopped it mid spin, changed the ball and he started losing every spin, and lost 70k or something

    What, you seriously telling me you can’t see and hear the difference between how the first ball spins at 0:20 versus the vibrating ball at 1:36? Anyone who’s played roulette at least once would spot that a mile off.

    Oh yeah, I forgot it’s complete silence around the roulette table, and the ball is obviously too big to be hidden from surprise visits.

    #69159
    argyl53 WANTED $419
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    Nice try, but on online live roulette like Rocknrolla plays and like I’ve played, there’s very little background noise and you can hear the ball loud and clear every spin.

    #69160
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    Sore losers trying to claim they don’t win because of dodgy casinos.

    #69161
    awesomex WANTED $136
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    This reply has been reported for inappropriate content.

    I’m almost starting to think Rbreen and argyl is either the same person or they’re butt buddies. It sure as fuck looks like it.

    #69163
    argyl53 WANTED $419
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    Careful there, Hawking; JB already got a week in the naughty corner for taking a conversation down that road.

    #69164
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    Nah, Argyll is more articulate than me.

    The right winger doesn’t like gays. Shock horror. ?

    #69165
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    Plus, the only known case of someone backing themselves up on here was JB. He admits that it was pretty funny himself.

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    #69166
    Haz40 WANTED $1,167
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    Rbreen and argyl same person lol. Heard it all now. ?

    #69167
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    Haz40 wrote:

    Rbreen and argyl same person lol. Heard it all now. ?

    But I’m the melted “brain” of a conspiracy theorist… we COULD be. Therefore it must be the case.

    The big backinamo conspiracy has been brought to it’s knees in this thread.

     

    i feel bad for Argyl though, he may be pretty offended by the accusation. ????

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    #69168
    argyl53 WANTED $419
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    Look fellas, I’m a newbie but I’ve been reading through this thread and I just wanted to say I think this Argyl geezer speaks a lot of sense. He’s obviously super intelligent, I wouldn’t be surprised if his IQ was around 181. And he clearly knows his stuff about gambling and the laws and regulation and all that. I think you should think about what he says.

    Aww nuts, I meant to post this from my other account 😀

    Back on topic, for me I’d say the power is with the consumer. In a way there’s nothing wrong with making YouTube videos to promote casinos by showing the games on demo play, or with a casino funded account. It’s not like it changes anything about the games or how they play. Ethically I do think if you do that as opposed to gambling for real with your own money, you should be honest and say it’s what you’re doing, but I don’t think it’s an obligation. Either way for me as the viewer, it’s pretty obvious if you’re promoting shady casinos with shady games, or playing on demo / with funds which aren’t yours. Like Paul says, there are some reactions you just can’t easily fake. So when I spot people like Roshtein, another one we’ve been talking about recently, when I look at how he plays, where he plays, and his reactions, I don’t believe it’s real and I subsequently don’t watch him. I also wouldn’t dream of using any casino he promoted.

    I’ve never said there isn’t any shady practice at all in the gambling industry, just that online games under UK licensing and regulation aren’t rigged. Shady practices which definitely do happen in the industry are:

    1. Unfair games from unregulated, unscrupulous vendors and casinos outside UK regulation, either with lower RTP than stated or non random results.

    2. The use of dubious, deliberately obscured terms and conditions and “small print”, particularly with the use of bonus funds or winnings from bonuses, to delay, limit or void paying out winnings. *When it’s clearly stated in the T&C, I don’t regard this as shady, to be honest as a player you are a fool to not read the terms of any online casino on which you deposit. I do regard it as shady if these terms were not stated, or deliberately obfuscated / made hard to find.

    3. Offering high profile affiliates funded accounts which mimic real play, real deposits and real withdrawals, but the affiliate doesn’t actually own the balance or accounts.

    4. Backroom deals to do things like promote certain games or offer player incentives on certain games.

    5. Encouraging further gambling, ignoring problem gambling patterns or failing to adequately investigate unusual account activity or accepting money believed to be the proceeds of crime, or without passing AML checks.

    #69169
    Haz40 WANTED $1,167
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    argyl53 wrote:

    Look fellas, I’m a newbie but I’ve been reading through this thread and I just wanted to say I think this Argyl geezer speaks a lot of sense. He’s obviously super intelligent, I wouldn’t be surprised if his IQ was around 181. And he clearly knows his stuff about gambling and the laws and regulation and all that. I think you should think about what he says.

    Aww nuts, I meant to post this from my other account ?

    Back on topic, for me I’d say the power is with the consumer. In a way there’s nothing wrong with making YouTube videos to promote casinos by showing the games on demo play, or with a casino funded account. It’s not like it changes anything about the games or how they play. Ethically I do think if you do that as opposed to gambling for real with your own money, you should be honest and say it’s what you’re doing, but I don’t think it’s an obligation. Either way for me as the viewer, it’s pretty obvious if you’re promoting shady casinos with shady games, or playing on demo / with funds which aren’t yours. Like Paul says, there are some reactions you just can’t easily fake. So when I spot people like Roshtein, another one we’ve been talking about recently, when I look at how he plays, where he plays, and his reactions, I don’t believe it’s real and I subsequently don’t watch him. I also wouldn’t dream of using any casino he promoted.

    I’ve never said there isn’t any shady practice at all in the gambling industry, just that online games under UK licensing and regulation aren’t rigged. Shady practices which definitely do happen in the industry are:

    1. Unfair games from unregulated, unscrupulous vendors and casinos outside UK regulation, either with lower RTP than stated or non random results.

    2. The use of dubious, deliberately obscured terms and conditions and “small print”, particularly with the use of bonus funds or winnings from bonuses, to delay, limit or void paying out winnings. *When it’s clearly stated in the T&C, I don’t regard this as shady, to be honest as a player you are a fool to not read the terms of any online casino on which you deposit. I do regard it as shady if these terms were not stated, or deliberately obfuscated / made hard to find.

    3. Offering high profile affiliates funded accounts which mimic real play, real deposits and real withdrawals, but the affiliate doesn’t actually own the balance or accounts.

    4. Backroom deals to do things like promote certain games or offer player incentives on certain games.

    5. Encouraging further gambling, ignoring problem gambling patterns or failing to adequately investigate unusual account activity or accepting money believed to be the proceeds of crime, or without passing AML checks.

    Do you think you covered everything or did you miss anything out. ?

    #69170
    Haz40 WANTED $1,167
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    Rbreen91 wrote:

    Haz40 wrote:

    Rbreen and argyl same person lol. Heard it all now. ?

    But I’m the melted “brain” of a conspiracy theorist… we COULD be. Therefore it must be the case.

    The big backinamo conspiracy has been brought to it’s knees in this thread.

     

    i feel bad for Argyl though, he may be pretty offended by the accusation. ????

    I think my brain is melted after reading this thread. ??

    #69171
    argyl53 WANTED $419
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    Well I’m being thorough because there’s a lot going in the gaming industry which is questionable at best and criminal at worst. I’ve never said gambling is a totally clean business, just that in the UK market the games are not rigged and casinos can’t influence how they play or when they pay out. I make this point because contrary to JB’s and awesomex’s frequent accusations, I’m not partisan, I’m not pro-the-casinos. If someone wants to show me convincing evidence games in the UK are rigged, I’ll be frigging delighted because I’ll suddenly have a solid case to sue and get back 15 years of gambling losses. Difference is I draw my conclusions from evidence, whereas they start with an ideological belief and then try to find and cherry-pick evidence which fits that position and disregard anything which doesn’t. That’s zealotry, that’s devotion, that’s being what JB calls a sheeple.

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