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2nd June 2019 at 9:29 pm #67834
Just checked the date to see if it was April the first but no it definitely June the second
12nd June 2019 at 9:41 pm #678352nd June 2019 at 10:12 pm #678362nd June 2019 at 10:15 pm #678372nd June 2019 at 11:22 pm #67843If he plays with real money and isn’t funded by the casinos he represents, why does he only ever play at the same small group of linked whitelabel casinos and none of the big reputable names like Casumo, Leovegas, Videoslots etc.?
32nd June 2019 at 11:33 pm #67844I have to a gree i think roshtein is a good streamer always entertaining a was abit sceptical of some of his bet sizes cos they just seemed ridiculous for someone on a bonus but i suppose if he has a deal with the casinos he is representing it could be legit just my opinion not a patch on bandit but good fun to watch normaly watch jimbo and fruity slots and nick slots but recently nick slots just gettin abit mehhh always seems be be winning and hits big all the time maybe because he works for the casinos a just find it abit strange just my opinion
3rd June 2019 at 2:23 am #67853Hehe, was one of the first viewers. He said he was an affiliate cus he could finance the slotting, but he didnt know anything about slots. And he didnt know the slot provider Netent??? Entertainer? Sure, but now he got some experience so dont be fooled
3rd June 2019 at 10:07 am #67870I only watch him when theres no one else on, but he is entertaining.. it’s the way he talks.. must be my childish mind getting amused at the impressions hahah
3rd June 2019 at 11:02 am #67872Hi,
First, let me introduce myself for those who don’t know me;
I’m Asle Martinsen, a long time moderator for CasinoDaddy and CasinoGrounds. I have been a moderator on YouTube for 3 years now, and have had a close eye on the YouTube/Twitch gambling streamers. Through my years of experience I’ve become friends with a lot of streamers and regulars in the community, and I talk to many very frequently.Now, let’s get on to Roshtein.
Someone I moderate for (I don’t wanna reveal his name) has an employee who works on their behalf to set up affiliate deals with new casinos. This person has showed me screenshots from a conversation between him and Roshtein, as well as screenshots of conversations between the casinos Roshtein represent and himself (the employee).
Here is one screenshot between a casino affiliate manager who contacted a representative for one of the streamers I moderate for:Just the fact the casino affiliate manager was the one who made contact says a lot. They don’t go out looking for affiliates – affiliates contact the casinos. That’s the normal procedure.
Through conversations with reliable people, I have learned that Roshtein has operated with a deal where only 5% of the money he plays with is actually his, and he also has a max cashout of something like 5x the deposit amount. Meaning if it says Roshtein deposited €2000 with a 300% bonus (€8000 starting balance), he actually only deposited €100, and has a max cashout of €500. And that’s only with some casinos. With others he has another deal, where he plays exclusively with demo accounts. I know for a fact he’s got a very rigged deal specifically with N1 casino, where he puts absolutely no money down for any of his “deposits”.
The fucked up thing here is that when Roshtein hits tons of big wins, it takes a certain amount “out of the pot” (RTP), and since he keeps doing this over and over and over, without it being legitimate money, and he wins such huge amounts, these are potential wins taken out of the pot from other players. If he keeps playing €50 euro spins with the casino’s money and wins €100,000, that €100,000 is then out of the ~96% RTP “pot”. As you know, a certain “jackpot” hit combination, like 5 explorers on book of dead for example, is programmed to come only x amount of times per x amount of spins. Well, his hits takes tons of these out of the pot for regular players. RTP is of course calculated over like a few billion spins, but let’s look at how that actually works out: A huge majority of players spin at less than €1 stake. Most are probably at min stake, so let’s say 0.20 stake. €100,000 is the equivalent of 500,000 losing spins on 0.20 stake. Then imagine you do a €50 deposit at 0.20 stake, which is 250 times your stake. The math and logic is simple if you look at it this way.There is a reason why nobody in the affiliate industry wants to be affiliated with Roshtein. Yes, he has a lot of viewers, but that’s cus he’s good at faking it.
If you go to youtube and look for the video where Slotspinner hits a 5 of a kind explorer on Book of Dead, notice his reaction and how he says “Is it ten-thousand?” – Then go look at Roshtein’s reaction at a later date, where he straight up copies Slotspinner’s reaction with a “Is it three-thousand?”. These two videos was like 3 months apart, with Roshtein’s being the later one.It’s so blatantly obvious he’s just copying the best reactions from other streamers. And as he’s a good actor, he’s making a lot of naive people believe he’s legit.
Here’s another secret: When there are get-togethers for all the casino affiliates from all the various casinos, NOBODY wants to be seen with Roshtein, cus nobody likes him. The reason behind that is that he’s misrepresenting the industry, and shows people that carelessness pays off – just what someone scamming you wants you to think.
He also promoted casinos that gave a 400% deposit bonus, which is the model used by casinos who don’t have any of the regular providers, who nobody really knows about, and just come off as dodgy with a chat popup before you’ve even created an account, telling you about a “special offer” where you can deposit thousands and get 400% on top of that, which anyone can see is bullshit, as if a legit casino did this, it would be like handing out money for free. The casino industry does not hand out money for nothing, let me assure you of that.I would love for eejit to come into this chat and make a comment about Roshtein as well, as everyone here knows eejit knows quite a lot about the industry. He can let you know what the casinos Roshtein works for are like.
I just had a look through the casinos Roshtein promotes, and here they are:
N1 Casino (mentioned above).
Ladyhammer (curacao casino, no MGA or UKGC license).I can’t find more right now, but let’s talk about these two, and ask yourself these questions:
Have you ever seen these casinos before? Do any of the streamers you trust play there? Why do you think Roshtein is the only streamer to play at these casinos?If you’re dumb enough to play at the casinos Roshtein promotes, don’t come crying on this forum when you don’t get your money due to some dodgy terms, or just a straight up bullshit casino.
343rd June 2019 at 11:58 am #67882If the above is true, then Roshtein and the casinos who give him his ridiculous deals are both complete fucking cancerous fraudulent Cunts.
I promised I wouldn’t use that word again. But I think it’s relevant here.
Twats
223rd June 2019 at 12:12 pm #67884If the above is true, then Roshtein and the casinos who give him his ridiculous deals are both complete fucking cancerous fraudulent Cunts.
I promised I wouldn’t use that word again. But I think it’s relevant here.
Twats
It’s very true. The rep who talked to the casino affiliate in the screenshot talked about the Roshtein deal, and the casino affiliate manager said she didn’t think they would want the same deal as Roshtein, as it’s a deal that might ruin their reputation. The ones I moderate for don’t operate with deals like that. I will never moderate for anyone who doesn’t use their own money in a legit deal.
3rd June 2019 at 12:19 pm #67885Hi,
First, let me introduce myself for those who don’t know me; I’m Asle Martinsen, a long time moderator for CasinoDaddy and CasinoGrounds. I have been a moderator on YouTube for 3 years now, and have had a close eye on the YouTube/Twitch gambling streamers. Through my years of experience I’ve become friends with a lot of streamers and regulars in the community, and I talk to many very frequently.
Now, let’s get on to Roshtein.
Someone I moderate for (I don’t wanna reveal his name) has an employee who works on their behalf to set up affiliate deals with new casinos. This person has showed me screenshots from a conversation between him and Roshtein, as well as screenshots of conversations between the casinos Roshtein represent and himself (the employee).
Here is one screenshot between a casino affiliate manager who contacted a representative for one of the streamers I moderate for:Just the fact the casino affiliate manager was the one who made contact says a lot. They don’t go out looking for affiliates – affiliates contact the casinos. That’s the normal procedure.
Through conversations with reliable people, I have learned that Roshtein has operated with a deal where only 5% of the money he plays with is actually his, and he also has a max cashout of something like 5x the deposit amount. Meaning if it says Roshtein deposited €2000 with a 300% bonus (€8000 starting balance), he actually only deposited €100, and has a max cashout of €500. And that’s only with some casinos. With others he has another deal, where he plays exclusively with demo accounts. I know for a fact he’s got a very rigged deal specifically with N1 casino, where he puts absolutely no money down for any of his “deposits”.
The fucked up thing here is that when Roshtein hits tons of big wins, it takes a certain amount “out of the pot” (RTP), and since he keeps doing this over and over and over, without it being legitimate money, and he wins such huge amounts, these are potential wins taken out of the pot from other players. If he keeps playing €50 euro spins with the casino’s money and wins €100,000, that €100,000 is then out of the ~96% RTP “pot”. As you know, a certain “jackpot” hit combination, like 5 explorers on book of dead for example, is programmed to come only x amount of times per x amount of spins. Well, his hits takes tons of these out of the pot for regular players. RTP is of course calculated over like a few billion spins, but let’s look at how that actually works out: A huge majority of players spin at less than €1 stake. Most are probably at min stake, so let’s say 0.20 stake. €100,000 is the equivalent of 500,000 losing spins on 0.20 stake. Then imagine you do a €50 deposit at 0.20 stake, which is 250 times your stake. The math and logic is simple if you look at it this way.There is a reason why nobody in the affiliate industry wants to be affiliated with Roshtein. Yes, he has a lot of viewers, but that’s cus he’s good at faking it.
If you go to youtube and look for the video where Slotspinner hits a 5 of a kind explorer on Book of Dead, notice his reaction and how he says “Is it ten-thousand?” – Then go look at Roshtein’s reaction at a later date, where he straight up copies Slotspinner’s reaction with a “Is it three-thousand?”. These two videos was like 3 months apart, with Roshtein’s being the later one.It’s so blatantly obvious he’s just copying the best reactions from other streamers. And as he’s a good actor, he’s making a lot of naive people believe he’s legit.
Here’s another secret: When there are get-togethers for all the casino affiliates from all the various casinos, NOBODY wants to be seen with Roshtein, cus nobody likes him. The reason behind that is that he’s misrepresenting the industry, and shows people that carelessness pays off – just what someone scamming you wants you to think.
He also promoted casinos that gave a 400% deposit bonus, which is the model used by casinos who don’t have any of the regular providers, who nobody really knows about, and just come off as dodgy with a chat popup before you’ve even created an account, telling you about a “special offer” where you can deposit thousands and get 400% on top of that, which anyone can see is bullshit, as if a legit casino did this, it would be like handing out money for free. The casino industry does not hand out money for nothing, let me assure you of that.I would love for eejit to come into this chat and make a comment about Roshtein as well, as everyone here knows eejit knows quite a lot about the industry. He can let you know what the casinos Roshtein works for are like.
I just had a look through the casinos Roshtein promotes, and here they are:
N1 Casino (mentioned above).
Ladyhammer (curacao casino, no MGA or UKGC license).I can’t find more right now, but let’s talk about these two, and ask yourself these questions:
Have you ever seen these casinos before? Do any of the streamers you trust play there? Why do you think Roshtein is the only streamer to play at these casinos?If you’re dumb enough to play at the casinos Roshtein promotes, don’t come crying on this forum when you don’t get your money due to some dodgy terms, or just a straight up bullshit casino.
Some really interesting points here – thank you,
Is there anyone else you can name and shame?
One point though – your comments on RTP are mistaken – if the games are truly random as advertised – the odds of winning are not changed by anyone hitting it big, every spin should have exactly the same likelihood of hitting big, in fact – you could have back to back jackpots as a random game can do anything. (A good thing really – otherwise no one would be able to touch Reel King as it a cash machine for the Bandit!)
3rd June 2019 at 12:21 pm #67886I just read through the chat with one of the biggest affiliates, and they said this: I once cashed out 30k at betsson. Betsson didn’t wanna give me deposit bonuses after that, despite me advertising for them, cus with cashouts like that I cash out more than the business I bring in.
Now, imagine Roshtein who can “cash out” 200k on a single casino – That’s the equivalent of 2000 people signing up and depositing 100 euros, and every single one of them losing it all – and that’s only to put the casino at 0. Do you know any casinos that put in work, affiliate managers and such who do it without making money, and keep these deals going forever?Just look at Roshtein’s reactions to his big wins, then you compare it to a porn actress having and orgasm – Both are over the top with shouting/yelling/moaning. It’s not like that in real life
3rd June 2019 at 12:26 pm #67889Hi,
First, let me introduce myself for those who don’t know me; I’m Asle Martinsen, a long time moderator for CasinoDaddy and CasinoGrounds. I have been a moderator on YouTube for 3 years now, and have had a close eye on the YouTube/Twitch gambling streamers. Through my years of experience I’ve become friends with a lot of streamers and regulars in the community, and I talk to many very frequently.
Now, let’s get on to Roshtein. Someone I moderate for (I don’t wanna reveal his name) has an employee who works on their behalf to set up affiliate deals with new casinos. This person has showed me screenshots from a conversation between him and Roshtein, as well as screenshots of conversations between the casinos Roshtein represent and himself (the employee).
Here is one screenshot between a casino affiliate manager who contacted a representative for one of the streamers I moderate for:Just the fact the casino affiliate manager was the one who made contact says a lot. They don’t go out looking for affiliates – affiliates contact the casinos. That’s the normal procedure.
Through conversations with reliable people, I have learned that Roshtein has operated with a deal where only 5% of the money he plays with is actually his, and he also has a max cashout of something like 5x the deposit amount. Meaning if it says Roshtein deposited €2000 with a 300% bonus (€8000 starting balance), he actually only deposited €100, and has a max cashout of €500. And that’s only with some casinos. With others he has another deal, where he plays exclusively with demo accounts. I know for a fact he’s got a very rigged deal specifically with N1 casino, where he puts absolutely no money down for any of his “deposits”.
The fucked up thing here is that when Roshtein hits tons of big wins, it takes a certain amount “out of the pot” (RTP), and since he keeps doing this over and over and over, without it being legitimate money, and he wins such huge amounts, these are potential wins taken out of the pot from other players. If he keeps playing €50 euro spins with the casino’s money and wins €100,000, that €100,000 is then out of the ~96% RTP “pot”. As you know, a certain “jackpot” hit combination, like 5 explorers on book of dead for example, is programmed to come only x amount of times per x amount of spins. Well, his hits takes tons of these out of the pot for regular players. RTP is of course calculated over like a few billion spins, but let’s look at how that actually works out: A huge majority of players spin at less than €1 stake. Most are probably at min stake, so let’s say 0.20 stake. €100,000 is the equivalent of 500,000 losing spins on 0.20 stake. Then imagine you do a €50 deposit at 0.20 stake, which is 250 times your stake. The math and logic is simple if you look at it this way.There is a reason why nobody in the affiliate industry wants to be affiliated with Roshtein. Yes, he has a lot of viewers, but that’s cus he’s good at faking it.
If you go to youtube and look for the video where Slotspinner hits a 5 of a kind explorer on Book of Dead, notice his reaction and how he says “Is it ten-thousand?” – Then go look at Roshtein’s reaction at a later date, where he straight up copies Slotspinner’s reaction with a “Is it three-thousand?”. These two videos was like 3 months apart, with Roshtein’s being the later one.It’s so blatantly obvious he’s just copying the best reactions from other streamers. And as he’s a good actor, he’s making a lot of naive people believe he’s legit.
Here’s another secret: When there are get-togethers for all the casino affiliates from all the various casinos, NOBODY wants to be seen with Roshtein, cus nobody likes him. The reason behind that is that he’s misrepresenting the industry, and shows people that carelessness pays off – just what someone scamming you wants you to think.
He also promoted casinos that gave a 400% deposit bonus, which is the model used by casinos who don’t have any of the regular providers, who nobody really knows about, and just come off as dodgy with a chat popup before you’ve even created an account, telling you about a “special offer” where you can deposit thousands and get 400% on top of that, which anyone can see is bullshit, as if a legit casino did this, it would be like handing out money for free. The casino industry does not hand out money for nothing, let me assure you of that.I would love for eejit to come into this chat and make a comment about Roshtein as well, as everyone here knows eejit knows quite a lot about the industry. He can let you know what the casinos Roshtein works for are like.
I just had a look through the casinos Roshtein promotes, and here they are:
N1 Casino (mentioned above).
Ladyhammer (curacao casino, no MGA or UKGC license).I can’t find more right now, but let’s talk about these two, and ask yourself these questions:
Have you ever seen these casinos before? Do any of the streamers you trust play there? Why do you think Roshtein is the only streamer to play at these casinos?If you’re dumb enough to play at the casinos Roshtein promotes, don’t come crying on this forum when you don’t get your money due to some dodgy terms, or just a straight up bullshit casino.
Some really interesting points here – thank you,
Is there anyone else you can name and shame?
One point though – your comments on RTP are mistaken – if the games are truly random as advertised – the odds of winning are not changed by anyone hitting it big, every spin should have exactly the same likelihood of hitting big, in fact – you could have back to back jackpots as a random game can do anything. (A good thing really – otherwise no one would be able to touch Reel King as it a cash machine for the Bandit!)
CasinoRobot was another one who used to play with fake money. He was revealed to have a fake account cus he fucked up on stream, for everyone to see.
People can say what they want, but when it comes to computer code, there’s no such thing as randomness. There’s always a pre-programmed amount of winning combinations, and a set amount of times any X win will happen across X amount of spins. Just look at “The curious case of the Jammin Jars” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc53rrmxz34&t=483s
The explanation from the developers for this case is that there are 1.3 million different sequences on Jammin Jars etc.
Computer code and casinos never leave anything to chance – In the end it’s all controlled.13rd June 2019 at 12:37 pm #67894People can say what they want, but when it comes to computer code, there’s no such thing as randomness. There’s always a pre-programmed amount of winning combinations, and a set amount of times any X win will happen across X amount of spins. Just look at “The curious case of the Jammin Jars” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc53rrmxz34&t=483s
The explanation from the developers for this case is that there are 1.3 million different sequences on Jammin Jars etc.
Computer code and casinos never leave anything to chance – In the end it’s all controlled.Sorry but this is plain wrong. The randomness employed by software may not be true random in a Turing machine sense, but it is secure random, giving results which are statistically random. In other words, it’s true random in every practical sense (and this is very easy to prove in simulation).
Jammin Jars is known to operate more like a virtual scratch card where there are set sequences and the result of your spin, although random, can therefore have a pre-determined visual playout, but this is actually very unusual for an online slot. Most of them work by having a reelset where on each spin, a random stop position is chosen for each reel and the RTP / result probabilities are determined solely by the layout of the reelset.
Believe me, this is a subject I know a lot about. It is emphatically not correct to say that on a game like Book of Dead, it is “programmed to bring in a jackpot screen once every X thousand spins”. The outcome is entirely random and the game has been designed so the probability of a jackpot screen occurring amounts to a statistical expectation it would only occur once every X thousand spins. But there is no “pot” that fake big wins from the likes of Roshtein are removing money from, that’s just not how it works.
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