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2nd June 2019 at 8:29 pm #67829
I’ve been watching a fair amount of Roshtein recently and thought I would post my unbiased opinion. You lot may have already watched him and have your own thoughts, and if so please feel free to ignore this.
Well I heard a whole lot of trash talk about this Roshtein chap and even posted here asking people’s opinions. So, as I spend loads of time watching streams and in the absence of the esteemed Bandit, I thought I would give him a go. I was filled with preconceived ideas but well, I have to say I was dead wrong.
First off he is obviously an intelligent chap, keeps a clean channel, is entertaining, a bit zany but it’s not over the top and his scruffy duck dance had me cracked up. He certainly has the most professional and slick streaming presentation of any I’ve seen, by a distance. He has a massive viewer base, due to being so entertaining, streaming very regularly (12 hours a day 4/5 days a week), and of course the bet size.
Typically he bets £50 spins and this draws criticism and suspicion. Surely this must be casino or play money. Well in fact I’m convinced it isn’t.
As he has such a large viewer base he is able to command good deposit bonuses from casinos and has five 300% sticky bonuses per day. He generally deposits £2000 which gives him a working balance of £8000. The wagering requirement is 45x, which equates to £270K. So he does his £50 spins in the hope of hitting big, which he needs to if he is to meet the wager. Much less than this and he would be there all week trying to wager a single deposit. If he’s lucky he goes through the wager in about 4-6 hours.
Of course more often than not he pisses through the balance in half an hour and has to reload. Most days he loses, but does have the occasional big cash-out to keep him going. Affiliation also gives him a good supplementary income. He is totally transparent when it comes to his deposits and sources of income. He has hinted that he is comfortably off, but not rich. Well he’s a gambler, so that sort of goes without saying 🙂 He has had two long breaks in the past where he has had to walk away due to overwhelming losses.
Another thing I like is that he doesn’t push his casinos. Unlike many streamers there isn’t the constant “click the links below to see my offers malarkey”. In fact he can go all stream without mention them once. They exist of course and I have no idea how the compare with other streamer’s offers. The points he gives out for 100x wins and viewing time can be exchanged for free spins and deposit bonuses I believe.
He only promotes a very small number of casinos (3-4). This obviously means he gets better treatment from them, but is also in a stronger position to advocate for people who sign up through him. He could sign up to more and get a large wedge quickly, but as he says, the reputation he is building is worth more than that in the long term.
He is addicted, no doubt about it. The emotion on display when he wins is genuine, and the losses hurt. When asked “should i gamble?” he always unequivocally says “No. Play slots and you will lose. No doubt.” I never get the feeling that he is trying to draw people in, just putting it out there, entertaining and earning a living.
Is he as entertaining as the Bandit? No chance :). But I would rate him above all the others. Slick and professional, he works hard for and deserves his success.
*Sorry mods, I posted this first without being logged in.
22nd June 2019 at 9:29 pm #67834Just checked the date to see if it was April the first but no it definitely June the second
12nd June 2019 at 9:41 pm #678352nd June 2019 at 10:12 pm #678362nd June 2019 at 10:15 pm #678372nd June 2019 at 11:22 pm #67843If he plays with real money and isn’t funded by the casinos he represents, why does he only ever play at the same small group of linked whitelabel casinos and none of the big reputable names like Casumo, Leovegas, Videoslots etc.?
32nd June 2019 at 11:33 pm #67844I have to a gree i think roshtein is a good streamer always entertaining a was abit sceptical of some of his bet sizes cos they just seemed ridiculous for someone on a bonus but i suppose if he has a deal with the casinos he is representing it could be legit just my opinion not a patch on bandit but good fun to watch normaly watch jimbo and fruity slots and nick slots but recently nick slots just gettin abit mehhh always seems be be winning and hits big all the time maybe because he works for the casinos a just find it abit strange just my opinion
3rd June 2019 at 2:23 am #67853Hehe, was one of the first viewers. He said he was an affiliate cus he could finance the slotting, but he didnt know anything about slots. And he didnt know the slot provider Netent??? Entertainer? Sure, but now he got some experience so dont be fooled
3rd June 2019 at 10:07 am #67870I only watch him when theres no one else on, but he is entertaining.. it’s the way he talks.. must be my childish mind getting amused at the impressions hahah
3rd June 2019 at 11:02 am #67872Hi,
First, let me introduce myself for those who don’t know me;
I’m Asle Martinsen, a long time moderator for CasinoDaddy and CasinoGrounds. I have been a moderator on YouTube for 3 years now, and have had a close eye on the YouTube/Twitch gambling streamers. Through my years of experience I’ve become friends with a lot of streamers and regulars in the community, and I talk to many very frequently.Now, let’s get on to Roshtein.
Someone I moderate for (I don’t wanna reveal his name) has an employee who works on their behalf to set up affiliate deals with new casinos. This person has showed me screenshots from a conversation between him and Roshtein, as well as screenshots of conversations between the casinos Roshtein represent and himself (the employee).
Here is one screenshot between a casino affiliate manager who contacted a representative for one of the streamers I moderate for:Just the fact the casino affiliate manager was the one who made contact says a lot. They don’t go out looking for affiliates – affiliates contact the casinos. That’s the normal procedure.
Through conversations with reliable people, I have learned that Roshtein has operated with a deal where only 5% of the money he plays with is actually his, and he also has a max cashout of something like 5x the deposit amount. Meaning if it says Roshtein deposited €2000 with a 300% bonus (€8000 starting balance), he actually only deposited €100, and has a max cashout of €500. And that’s only with some casinos. With others he has another deal, where he plays exclusively with demo accounts. I know for a fact he’s got a very rigged deal specifically with N1 casino, where he puts absolutely no money down for any of his “deposits”.
The fucked up thing here is that when Roshtein hits tons of big wins, it takes a certain amount “out of the pot” (RTP), and since he keeps doing this over and over and over, without it being legitimate money, and he wins such huge amounts, these are potential wins taken out of the pot from other players. If he keeps playing €50 euro spins with the casino’s money and wins €100,000, that €100,000 is then out of the ~96% RTP “pot”. As you know, a certain “jackpot” hit combination, like 5 explorers on book of dead for example, is programmed to come only x amount of times per x amount of spins. Well, his hits takes tons of these out of the pot for regular players. RTP is of course calculated over like a few billion spins, but let’s look at how that actually works out: A huge majority of players spin at less than €1 stake. Most are probably at min stake, so let’s say 0.20 stake. €100,000 is the equivalent of 500,000 losing spins on 0.20 stake. Then imagine you do a €50 deposit at 0.20 stake, which is 250 times your stake. The math and logic is simple if you look at it this way.There is a reason why nobody in the affiliate industry wants to be affiliated with Roshtein. Yes, he has a lot of viewers, but that’s cus he’s good at faking it.
If you go to youtube and look for the video where Slotspinner hits a 5 of a kind explorer on Book of Dead, notice his reaction and how he says “Is it ten-thousand?” – Then go look at Roshtein’s reaction at a later date, where he straight up copies Slotspinner’s reaction with a “Is it three-thousand?”. These two videos was like 3 months apart, with Roshtein’s being the later one.It’s so blatantly obvious he’s just copying the best reactions from other streamers. And as he’s a good actor, he’s making a lot of naive people believe he’s legit.
Here’s another secret: When there are get-togethers for all the casino affiliates from all the various casinos, NOBODY wants to be seen with Roshtein, cus nobody likes him. The reason behind that is that he’s misrepresenting the industry, and shows people that carelessness pays off – just what someone scamming you wants you to think.
He also promoted casinos that gave a 400% deposit bonus, which is the model used by casinos who don’t have any of the regular providers, who nobody really knows about, and just come off as dodgy with a chat popup before you’ve even created an account, telling you about a “special offer” where you can deposit thousands and get 400% on top of that, which anyone can see is bullshit, as if a legit casino did this, it would be like handing out money for free. The casino industry does not hand out money for nothing, let me assure you of that.I would love for eejit to come into this chat and make a comment about Roshtein as well, as everyone here knows eejit knows quite a lot about the industry. He can let you know what the casinos Roshtein works for are like.
I just had a look through the casinos Roshtein promotes, and here they are:
N1 Casino (mentioned above).
Ladyhammer (curacao casino, no MGA or UKGC license).I can’t find more right now, but let’s talk about these two, and ask yourself these questions:
Have you ever seen these casinos before? Do any of the streamers you trust play there? Why do you think Roshtein is the only streamer to play at these casinos?If you’re dumb enough to play at the casinos Roshtein promotes, don’t come crying on this forum when you don’t get your money due to some dodgy terms, or just a straight up bullshit casino.
343rd June 2019 at 11:58 am #67882If the above is true, then Roshtein and the casinos who give him his ridiculous deals are both complete fucking cancerous fraudulent Cunts.
I promised I wouldn’t use that word again. But I think it’s relevant here.
Twats
223rd June 2019 at 12:12 pm #67884If the above is true, then Roshtein and the casinos who give him his ridiculous deals are both complete fucking cancerous fraudulent Cunts.
I promised I wouldn’t use that word again. But I think it’s relevant here.
Twats
It’s very true. The rep who talked to the casino affiliate in the screenshot talked about the Roshtein deal, and the casino affiliate manager said she didn’t think they would want the same deal as Roshtein, as it’s a deal that might ruin their reputation. The ones I moderate for don’t operate with deals like that. I will never moderate for anyone who doesn’t use their own money in a legit deal.
3rd June 2019 at 12:19 pm #67885Hi,
First, let me introduce myself for those who don’t know me; I’m Asle Martinsen, a long time moderator for CasinoDaddy and CasinoGrounds. I have been a moderator on YouTube for 3 years now, and have had a close eye on the YouTube/Twitch gambling streamers. Through my years of experience I’ve become friends with a lot of streamers and regulars in the community, and I talk to many very frequently.
Now, let’s get on to Roshtein.
Someone I moderate for (I don’t wanna reveal his name) has an employee who works on their behalf to set up affiliate deals with new casinos. This person has showed me screenshots from a conversation between him and Roshtein, as well as screenshots of conversations between the casinos Roshtein represent and himself (the employee).
Here is one screenshot between a casino affiliate manager who contacted a representative for one of the streamers I moderate for:Just the fact the casino affiliate manager was the one who made contact says a lot. They don’t go out looking for affiliates – affiliates contact the casinos. That’s the normal procedure.
Through conversations with reliable people, I have learned that Roshtein has operated with a deal where only 5% of the money he plays with is actually his, and he also has a max cashout of something like 5x the deposit amount. Meaning if it says Roshtein deposited €2000 with a 300% bonus (€8000 starting balance), he actually only deposited €100, and has a max cashout of €500. And that’s only with some casinos. With others he has another deal, where he plays exclusively with demo accounts. I know for a fact he’s got a very rigged deal specifically with N1 casino, where he puts absolutely no money down for any of his “deposits”.
The fucked up thing here is that when Roshtein hits tons of big wins, it takes a certain amount “out of the pot” (RTP), and since he keeps doing this over and over and over, without it being legitimate money, and he wins such huge amounts, these are potential wins taken out of the pot from other players. If he keeps playing €50 euro spins with the casino’s money and wins €100,000, that €100,000 is then out of the ~96% RTP “pot”. As you know, a certain “jackpot” hit combination, like 5 explorers on book of dead for example, is programmed to come only x amount of times per x amount of spins. Well, his hits takes tons of these out of the pot for regular players. RTP is of course calculated over like a few billion spins, but let’s look at how that actually works out: A huge majority of players spin at less than €1 stake. Most are probably at min stake, so let’s say 0.20 stake. €100,000 is the equivalent of 500,000 losing spins on 0.20 stake. Then imagine you do a €50 deposit at 0.20 stake, which is 250 times your stake. The math and logic is simple if you look at it this way.There is a reason why nobody in the affiliate industry wants to be affiliated with Roshtein. Yes, he has a lot of viewers, but that’s cus he’s good at faking it.
If you go to youtube and look for the video where Slotspinner hits a 5 of a kind explorer on Book of Dead, notice his reaction and how he says “Is it ten-thousand?” – Then go look at Roshtein’s reaction at a later date, where he straight up copies Slotspinner’s reaction with a “Is it three-thousand?”. These two videos was like 3 months apart, with Roshtein’s being the later one.It’s so blatantly obvious he’s just copying the best reactions from other streamers. And as he’s a good actor, he’s making a lot of naive people believe he’s legit.
Here’s another secret: When there are get-togethers for all the casino affiliates from all the various casinos, NOBODY wants to be seen with Roshtein, cus nobody likes him. The reason behind that is that he’s misrepresenting the industry, and shows people that carelessness pays off – just what someone scamming you wants you to think.
He also promoted casinos that gave a 400% deposit bonus, which is the model used by casinos who don’t have any of the regular providers, who nobody really knows about, and just come off as dodgy with a chat popup before you’ve even created an account, telling you about a “special offer” where you can deposit thousands and get 400% on top of that, which anyone can see is bullshit, as if a legit casino did this, it would be like handing out money for free. The casino industry does not hand out money for nothing, let me assure you of that.I would love for eejit to come into this chat and make a comment about Roshtein as well, as everyone here knows eejit knows quite a lot about the industry. He can let you know what the casinos Roshtein works for are like.
I just had a look through the casinos Roshtein promotes, and here they are:
N1 Casino (mentioned above).
Ladyhammer (curacao casino, no MGA or UKGC license).I can’t find more right now, but let’s talk about these two, and ask yourself these questions:
Have you ever seen these casinos before? Do any of the streamers you trust play there? Why do you think Roshtein is the only streamer to play at these casinos?If you’re dumb enough to play at the casinos Roshtein promotes, don’t come crying on this forum when you don’t get your money due to some dodgy terms, or just a straight up bullshit casino.
Some really interesting points here – thank you,
Is there anyone else you can name and shame?
One point though – your comments on RTP are mistaken – if the games are truly random as advertised – the odds of winning are not changed by anyone hitting it big, every spin should have exactly the same likelihood of hitting big, in fact – you could have back to back jackpots as a random game can do anything. (A good thing really – otherwise no one would be able to touch Reel King as it a cash machine for the Bandit!)
3rd June 2019 at 12:21 pm #67886I just read through the chat with one of the biggest affiliates, and they said this: I once cashed out 30k at betsson. Betsson didn’t wanna give me deposit bonuses after that, despite me advertising for them, cus with cashouts like that I cash out more than the business I bring in.
Now, imagine Roshtein who can “cash out” 200k on a single casino – That’s the equivalent of 2000 people signing up and depositing 100 euros, and every single one of them losing it all – and that’s only to put the casino at 0. Do you know any casinos that put in work, affiliate managers and such who do it without making money, and keep these deals going forever?Just look at Roshtein’s reactions to his big wins, then you compare it to a porn actress having and orgasm – Both are over the top with shouting/yelling/moaning. It’s not like that in real life
3rd June 2019 at 12:26 pm #67889Hi,
First, let me introduce myself for those who don’t know me; I’m Asle Martinsen, a long time moderator for CasinoDaddy and CasinoGrounds. I have been a moderator on YouTube for 3 years now, and have had a close eye on the YouTube/Twitch gambling streamers. Through my years of experience I’ve become friends with a lot of streamers and regulars in the community, and I talk to many very frequently.
Now, let’s get on to Roshtein. Someone I moderate for (I don’t wanna reveal his name) has an employee who works on their behalf to set up affiliate deals with new casinos. This person has showed me screenshots from a conversation between him and Roshtein, as well as screenshots of conversations between the casinos Roshtein represent and himself (the employee).
Here is one screenshot between a casino affiliate manager who contacted a representative for one of the streamers I moderate for:Just the fact the casino affiliate manager was the one who made contact says a lot. They don’t go out looking for affiliates – affiliates contact the casinos. That’s the normal procedure.
Through conversations with reliable people, I have learned that Roshtein has operated with a deal where only 5% of the money he plays with is actually his, and he also has a max cashout of something like 5x the deposit amount. Meaning if it says Roshtein deposited €2000 with a 300% bonus (€8000 starting balance), he actually only deposited €100, and has a max cashout of €500. And that’s only with some casinos. With others he has another deal, where he plays exclusively with demo accounts. I know for a fact he’s got a very rigged deal specifically with N1 casino, where he puts absolutely no money down for any of his “deposits”.
The fucked up thing here is that when Roshtein hits tons of big wins, it takes a certain amount “out of the pot” (RTP), and since he keeps doing this over and over and over, without it being legitimate money, and he wins such huge amounts, these are potential wins taken out of the pot from other players. If he keeps playing €50 euro spins with the casino’s money and wins €100,000, that €100,000 is then out of the ~96% RTP “pot”. As you know, a certain “jackpot” hit combination, like 5 explorers on book of dead for example, is programmed to come only x amount of times per x amount of spins. Well, his hits takes tons of these out of the pot for regular players. RTP is of course calculated over like a few billion spins, but let’s look at how that actually works out: A huge majority of players spin at less than €1 stake. Most are probably at min stake, so let’s say 0.20 stake. €100,000 is the equivalent of 500,000 losing spins on 0.20 stake. Then imagine you do a €50 deposit at 0.20 stake, which is 250 times your stake. The math and logic is simple if you look at it this way.There is a reason why nobody in the affiliate industry wants to be affiliated with Roshtein. Yes, he has a lot of viewers, but that’s cus he’s good at faking it.
If you go to youtube and look for the video where Slotspinner hits a 5 of a kind explorer on Book of Dead, notice his reaction and how he says “Is it ten-thousand?” – Then go look at Roshtein’s reaction at a later date, where he straight up copies Slotspinner’s reaction with a “Is it three-thousand?”. These two videos was like 3 months apart, with Roshtein’s being the later one.It’s so blatantly obvious he’s just copying the best reactions from other streamers. And as he’s a good actor, he’s making a lot of naive people believe he’s legit.
Here’s another secret: When there are get-togethers for all the casino affiliates from all the various casinos, NOBODY wants to be seen with Roshtein, cus nobody likes him. The reason behind that is that he’s misrepresenting the industry, and shows people that carelessness pays off – just what someone scamming you wants you to think.
He also promoted casinos that gave a 400% deposit bonus, which is the model used by casinos who don’t have any of the regular providers, who nobody really knows about, and just come off as dodgy with a chat popup before you’ve even created an account, telling you about a “special offer” where you can deposit thousands and get 400% on top of that, which anyone can see is bullshit, as if a legit casino did this, it would be like handing out money for free. The casino industry does not hand out money for nothing, let me assure you of that.I would love for eejit to come into this chat and make a comment about Roshtein as well, as everyone here knows eejit knows quite a lot about the industry. He can let you know what the casinos Roshtein works for are like.
I just had a look through the casinos Roshtein promotes, and here they are:
N1 Casino (mentioned above).
Ladyhammer (curacao casino, no MGA or UKGC license).I can’t find more right now, but let’s talk about these two, and ask yourself these questions:
Have you ever seen these casinos before? Do any of the streamers you trust play there? Why do you think Roshtein is the only streamer to play at these casinos?If you’re dumb enough to play at the casinos Roshtein promotes, don’t come crying on this forum when you don’t get your money due to some dodgy terms, or just a straight up bullshit casino.
Some really interesting points here – thank you,
Is there anyone else you can name and shame?
One point though – your comments on RTP are mistaken – if the games are truly random as advertised – the odds of winning are not changed by anyone hitting it big, every spin should have exactly the same likelihood of hitting big, in fact – you could have back to back jackpots as a random game can do anything. (A good thing really – otherwise no one would be able to touch Reel King as it a cash machine for the Bandit!)
CasinoRobot was another one who used to play with fake money. He was revealed to have a fake account cus he fucked up on stream, for everyone to see.
People can say what they want, but when it comes to computer code, there’s no such thing as randomness. There’s always a pre-programmed amount of winning combinations, and a set amount of times any X win will happen across X amount of spins. Just look at “The curious case of the Jammin Jars” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc53rrmxz34&t=483s
The explanation from the developers for this case is that there are 1.3 million different sequences on Jammin Jars etc.
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