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3rd June 2019 at 11:17 pm #68114I bet you couldn’t handle reading my post about my intelligence. Nobody seems to be able to be told something like that without acting like a complete idiot after. It’s just the way of the world.
It was very humorous, I’ll give you that.
Hehe.
3rd June 2019 at 11:32 pm #68116@Haz you wouldn’t be talking about yourself now would you sir??? xD
Might be ha ha. ????
3rd June 2019 at 11:50 pm #68119This is a hyperthetical question aimed mostly at Argyl as he is one of the most knowledgeable ones on here regarding how slots work.ok so I’m a streamer who works for the casino on the payroll, I will call myself Nick as this name has a certain how shall we say.well actually I can’t really say but I’m starting to digress so back to the point in question.i play on a test account funded by the casino as its a test account can the slot provider issue a big win as its not a real account and if yes how .i only ask this as on one of dazzas videos he tests out a upcoming slot and he had all the tool bars at the top of the screen to enable him to get instant bonus big win etc.
Just wanted to add a little more detail to this one. There are normally 2 ways in which this happens.
1. When the game is being made by the slot provider (the game client this is), they normally build it without a game server. I.E, they ‘mock’ the game server on the front end to make it easier to get all the graphics working etc. This is normally the type where you will see a tool bar or developer bar that allows you to trigger any type of feature. There is no server or money or anything involved, it just allows the developer to trigger the graphics so they can make it work right.
2. Most game platforms will have a way to set a result in order to test a game once it is fully integrated to the game server. In the example of the platform I ran, this was locked down behind several layers of security
a) The instance of the game server had to (when it was started up) have a flag set to say that it allowed test mode. No production version would ever have this flag set and there was monitoring in place to ensure this. It was always off by default.
b) The game engine itself had to be configured to allow test results. As above, a flag set on server startup which is configured. Monitored, always off on production deployments and off by default.
c) A particular player account must be flagged as a test user. Database flag as part of the user details. Same deal with monitoring and defaults.
d) A back office user with appropriate permissions (which can only be created and set by an administrator) would be able to go into the testing tool and set a particular result (or mock errors etc). This is separate to the player account and Casino staff were never given these permissions on production environments.
If you had all of these things set, then you could set results, force errors etc etc in order to test aspects of the game. Any game played in this way was flagged as such and would come up in the reporting as having been run in test mode in order to produce the result. It also required the game to be refreshed (new session) in order for the test mode to take effect.
This level of security on these types of features is fairly common in the market.
Please note, that everything I have described in all of my posts is about well regulated, reputable Casino’s. Casino’s that offer outside of regulation (or in the most lax of regulations) working with unknown slot providers are anyone’s guess, but they are the exception in today’s market. (that said, I had a 2,500 EUR win from a Curacao Casino and the games I played seemed alright. They did try to withhold my winnings though so I would recommend it)
4th June 2019 at 8:27 am #68129Two things get me about this random thing on online slots.
1. How can a slot’s rtp be reduced if a slot is random.
2. Magic mirror now that’s a slot that makes me wonder why does the bonus not land more often. Every spin you see the mirrors go past. The reels don’t spin for long and yet how many times are the mirrors above and below the win line. Just bad luck? They are there literally every spin. If you watch say for example danger you can see the bonus symbol go past on that long spin. Especially when you get a tease but magic mirror it’s like there everywhere yet somehow you spin after spin to find none land on the screen.
4th June 2019 at 8:45 am #68130RTP is baked in to the game design (usually via the combination of the reelset and payable). Adjust the positions and frequency of a few symbols making smaller wins a bit more likely and bigger wins a bit less likely and bam, you’ve reduced the overall RTP by a couple of points.
It’s like when they added 10 more balls to the lottery; each draw is still random but your odds of winning the jackpot have been slashed.
So yeah providers have to reduce the RTP by tweaking game design, they can’t just e.g. give a casino a settings page when they can type in whatever RTP percentage figure they choose.
14th June 2019 at 9:03 am #68135RTP is baked in to the game design (usually via the combination of the reelset and payable). Adjust the positions and frequency of a few symbols making smaller wins a bit more likely and bigger wins a bit less likely and bam, you’ve reduced the overall RTP by a couple of points.
It’s like when they added 10 more balls to the lottery; each draw is still random but your odds of winning the jackpot have been slashed.
So yeah providers have to reduce the RTP by tweaking game design, they can’t just e.g. give a casino a settings page when they can type in whatever RTP percentage figure they choose.
What about the magic mirror question. I love the game but it’s like them mirrors are there every single spin but somehow continually miss the win line.
4th June 2019 at 9:13 am #68136Sorry, can’t answer you about Magic Mirror, I didn’t design it. All I can tell you is provided the game outcome is random and losing spins are not being artificially substituted for “near misses”, in accordance with regulation anything else can be designed and built however they choose.
14th June 2019 at 10:30 am #68141Two things get me about this random thing on online slots.
1. How can a slot’s rtp be reduced if a slot is random.
2. Magic mirror now that’s a slot that makes me wonder why does the bonus not land more often. Every spin you see the mirrors go past. The reels don’t spin for long and yet how many times are the mirrors above and below the win line. Just bad luck? They are there literally every spin. If you watch say for example danger you can see the bonus symbol go past on that long spin. Especially when you get a tease but magic mirror it’s like there everywhere yet somehow you spin after spin to find none land on the screen.
Will add my 2c to this as well.
1. I have a video about this on my YouTube channel (‘The Reel Story’, playlist ‘How Slots Work’) called RTP Explained. I go through all this info and even do a practical example of building and modifying a slot. It should answer all your questions 🙂 )
2. There are a few ways that slot providers handle animations for reels.
a) They just put a blur over the top to make it look like it’s spinning, then remove the blur to reveal the result. This is an old technique and not really used anymore.
b) When the reels are spinning, they use a ‘fake’ set of symbols that they loop through, only dropping in the actual result when it stops. This is probably one of the most common implementations.
c) They cycle through the real reels as part of the animation, but before the results drop in they do a ‘cut’ and skip to the stop position where the result is. Also one of the most common implementations.
d) They model the reels as they would in a mechanical slot machine, displaying the real reel sets and getting them to stop at the correct spot by subtle speed adjustments (not particularly common as it’s actually quite complicated programatically).
So depending on the method, you may see all sorts of symbols spinning past that could never actually land, because it’s just a fake holding animation. Additionally, symbols that aren’t part of the win (just off the top or bottom), in implementations a) and b) would likely just be random and not indicative of the actual reel sets. This could mean that you would see mirrors or whatever just off screen, but you weren’t actually 1 stop off landing them.
Without looking at the game itself, the communications with the server and the code, it’s impossible to tell what implementation they’re using, but from your description it sound like it could well be ‘b)’.
Hope that helps.
114th June 2019 at 11:02 am #68145The backinamo slot I was building uses a combination of a fake reelset and blur animation for spinning reels; it’s just a fast scrolling loop of around two dozen pre-blurred symbols which are substituted in a millisecond for the real result when the spin stops.
14th June 2019 at 5:44 pm #681625th June 2019 at 3:14 am #68231Honestly, why do people care if hes real or fake….so what, its not YOUR money. I couldnt give a shit if hes real or fake, same as bandit or any of the other streamers as at the end of the day its not money ill ever see and its just numbers on a screen so it has NO impact whatsoever on my life. It is hilarious when a streamer says, “we are up xxxx for the session”, no we fucking aint mate, you are. As such I really couldnt give a shit if hes real or fake, he is an entertaining character and if his money is fake or real he is exactly the same as every other streamer, they are all in it for affiliation and at the end of the day you dont see a penny of anything so I really couldnt give a shit or care about that argument.
I dont really watch casino streamers, ill give the odd watch or skim through them but I just feel that its weird as fuck that people get angry and defend other streamers, all of which only exist to get you as a customer for them so that they can take a chunk of your losses lol, ethics does not belong in a world of gambling and addiction. People need to find other things in their life if they can feel so strongly about people they dont know and people who are who are on a thin line in regards to ethics or morals.
5th June 2019 at 3:21 am #68233Honestly the only people who should feel somewhat let down or annoyed by him are other streamers who are losing out on affiliate money, to anyone else he is just the same as the rest.
5th June 2019 at 7:54 am #68241Honestly the only people who should feel somewhat let down or annoyed by him are other streamers who are losing out on affiliate money, to anyone else he is just the same as the rest.
Your statements are all well and good mate. But what about the thousands of people signing up through his links that believe they have a chance at winning just like him?
If he is deceiving people then yeah this is a big problem. And yes people should be pissed off and hateful towards him.
Cos it’s a complete manipulative con job.
425th June 2019 at 9:59 am #68251This was one hell of a read after 2+ weeks away. I have some facts (Yes, facts).
1 – Roshstein is supplimented in his deposits. I know people at the casinos he plays at. I do NOT know by how much.
2. Slot randomness. There are 2 types of random number generator in the world, Pseudo random, and true random. True random uses atmospheric events, like random.org uses radio waves into binary, others use atmospheric pressure changes and radioactive decay and half life. Its fun to learn. Pseudo random is computer designed, and admittedly yes, it can be hacked. However thats why test labs running very specific tests (like NIST) exist, to make sure they are not. Slots are random, and you can win jackpots on back to back spins. one of our white labels launched and paid out over 250k in month 1 to a slot player on 3 euro stake, who hit back to back HUGE wins. It almost killed them. It does happen.
3 – Awesomex has a 180 IQ? I was gone a lot longer than 2 weeks i think.
4 – Casinos are not “cunts” for giving people free money or bonuses to promote their casino. They dont control the game rounds. Thats like being mad at your girlfriend for not looking like a porn star. Its marketing. People ply at their casino and ohers play there too. The stakes arent relevant. If he is betting 50quid a spin, good for him. I earn a good wage and not a chance im betting at that level.
15th June 2019 at 10:31 am #68252@eejit101 – very interesting facts bud! Thank you.
It appears that what everyone suspected was true after all…. Roshstein is still a cunt.
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