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@argyl53 and @thereelstory

listen mateys I know you both are very passionate about this subject. And I know you both have a fuck load of knowledge on how slots are programmed.

But ffs cmon lads. Have a single ounce of what if’s or maybe’s for for fucks sake!

I myself have retracted a lot of my so called conspiracy’s. Due to having no solid proof or evidence.

My argument is that when there’s a fuck load of money involved. Usually there’s some kind of cover up or manipulation going on behind the scenes.

Neither of you are millionaires, or have any insight whatsoever into the workings on top of the casino pyramids. So just give a little. Instead of giving hard NO’s and Catagorical “Your Completely wrongs”.

Cos to be honest lads, you have no real evidence or proof on how slots give or take once they are out of your hands. It’s the fellas High as fuck above your pay grade that have the answers we want to know. And we are never EVER gonna find out how this shit works. Unless a million dollar company with zero tolerance and who can’t be bought look into the workings of online slots.

So shall we give this subject a break or what? ?

[awesomex WANTED $136 Outlaw]

Rbreen91 wrote:

Imagine actually coming into the internet to lie about your IQ when you’ve just been rinsed about knowing absolutely fuck all about how slots work.

Who made you the judge of who’s right and who’s wrong? Do you think that just cus a majority of people say something, then that’s how it is? 99 out of 100 people can be wrong, while the 1 can be right, you know?
People have always believed that they know better than they do, and since the internet came about, they find likeminded average souls who think the same way they do, and therefor think what they’re saying is right. It’s the same with politics. When the majority of the people in the world are stupid, and the smartest people choose other paths than politics (even though they understand politics better than anyone else), it shows that just cus someone gangs up and points a finger and laughs, they don’t necessarily speak with any more authority than the one standing alone.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

1 in 3.5 million people have an IQ of 180 or more.
If you believe it or not doesn’t matter to me, as the people around me in my everyday life know it.

You could have an IQ off the scale that’s never been matched by anyone in human history and you’d still be wrong about how slots work, which is a matter of knowledge not intelligence. You’ve demonstrated a poor grasp of logic which belies your claim of an IQ leagues above Hawking and Einstein, but even that aside, surely it should be easy for your unparalleled intellect to tear down and refute the dozen plus points which have been made against your claims in this thread?

[Rb Rbreen91 WANTED $493 Outlaw]

You’re claiming to have an IQ in the top what, 3000 people in the whole world? Probably less actually…

yet you think slots work where there’s a pot that slots pay from? That’s wholly inaccurate.

 

[Rb Rbreen91 WANTED $493 Outlaw]

Yeah I’d say it’s closer to 2000 than 3000.

yet here you are spouting lies on an online forum. Good way to use that intellect.

[TheReelStory WANTED $14 Outlaw]

Just Basics wrote:

@argyl53 and @thereelstory

listen mateys I know you both are very passionate about this subject. And I know you both have a fuck load of knowledge on how slots are programmed.

But ffs cmon lads. Have a single ounce of what if’s or maybe’s for for fucks sake!

I myself have retracted a lot of my so called conspiracy’s. Due to having no solid proof or evidence.

My argument is that when there’s a fuck load of money involved. Usually there’s some kind of cover up or manipulation going on behind the scenes.

Neither of you are millionaires, or have any insight whatsoever into the workings on top of the casino pyramids. So just give a little. Instead of giving hard NO’s and Catagorical “Your Completely wrongs”.

Cos to be honest lads, you have no real evidence or proof on how slots give or take once they are out of your hands. It’s the fellas High as fuck above your pay grade that have the answers we want to know. And we are never EVER gonna find out how this shit works. Unless a million dollar company with zero tolerance and who can’t be bought look into the workings of online slots.

So shall we give this subject a break or what? ?

The people above our pay grade have no idea how it works haha. You think any exec in a company knows any detail? Only those who built startups.

Now don’t get me wrong, there is all sorts of hooky shit that goes on. I could tell you some stories (and I will if there is a private way to do so) however, it really has nothing to do with the slots or the Casino operations at a game level.

I.E, a game might get on to a certain Casino because someone took the casino manager out and took him to a strip club and got him a BJ. But the game itself? It’s perfectly legit.

The reality is, Casino’s don’t need to rig games etc. They make money (loads of it) legally. No reason to risk that. The technology is legit and does what it does The other stuff around it? Commercials, business deals, backhanders for preferential positioning on a casino page. THAT’s where the corruption is. You’re right, but you’re looking in the wrong place 🙂 There is much more money to be made dodging tax and doing hooky (but legal) business deals than illegally rigging slots 🙂

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

awesomex wrote:

Rbreen91 wrote:

Imagine actually coming into the internet to lie about your IQ when you’ve just been rinsed about knowing absolutely fuck all about how slots work.

Who made you the judge of who’s right and who’s wrong? Do you think that just cus a majority of people say something, then that’s how it is? 99 out of 100 people can be wrong, while the 1 can be right, you know? People have always believed that they know better than they do, and since the internet came about, they find likeminded average souls who think the same way they do, and therefor think what they’re saying is right. It’s the same with politics. When the majority of the people in the world are stupid, and the smartest people choose other paths than politics (even though they understand politics better than anyone else), it shows that just cus someone gangs up and points a finger and laughs, they don’t necessarily speak with any more authority than the one standing alone.

I fucking love you @awesomex

Please don’t get hung up on how some of these lads gang up. It’s mostly banter. And I’ve had plenty aimed at me in the past here. It soon swings back to being good fun.

Anyway it’s a huge pleasure to me finding someone like yourself on this forum.

#Legend

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

@jb, on one hand you’re talking to a software engineer and IT practitioner with a background in mathematics and on the other, a guy who’s literally worked in the industry of building slot games.

I don’t just know about programming, or random number generation, I know about the entire lifecycle of software in a business under regulation, I know about deployment integrity, data records, audit trails, regulator inspections. And I can safely tell you the only way slot games could be manipulated in the manner you and awesomex believe would be if there was a huge conspiracy involving literally hundreds of people in programming, ops, casinos, game providers, the UK Gambling Commission and others.

It’s like if you were to say the last UK general election was rigged and actually there was a big cover up because the Monster Raving Loony Party won a stonking majority. You’re right that strictly speaking, I can’t 100% prove to you that didn’t happen. But what I can tell you is how our electoral and ballot counting process works and how many people would have to be involved and have taken a vow of eternal silence for a conspiracy on that scale to have happened, to the extent that in the absence of some seriously good evidence on your part, I can be very confident the claim can be dismissed.

So if either of you have compelling evidence that this huge scale conspiracy with slots is taking place, believe me I’ll listen – I’m a learner and truth-seeker, I’d love nothing more than to be proven wrong. But all you’ve ever come up with is hot air.

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

TheReelStory wrote:

Just Basics wrote:

@argyl53 and @thereelstory

listen mateys I know you both are very passionate about this subject. And I know you both have a fuck load of knowledge on how slots are programmed.

But ffs cmon lads. Have a single ounce of what if’s or maybe’s for for fucks sake!

I myself have retracted a lot of my so called conspiracy’s. Due to having no solid proof or evidence.

My argument is that when there’s a fuck load of money involved. Usually there’s some kind of cover up or manipulation going on behind the scenes.

Neither of you are millionaires, or have any insight whatsoever into the workings on top of the casino pyramids. So just give a little. Instead of giving hard NO’s and Catagorical “Your Completely wrongs”.

Cos to be honest lads, you have no real evidence or proof on how slots give or take once they are out of your hands. It’s the fellas High as fuck above your pay grade that have the answers we want to know. And we are never EVER gonna find out how this shit works. Unless a million dollar company with zero tolerance and who can’t be bought look into the workings of online slots.

So shall we give this subject a break or what? ?

The people above our pay grade have no idea how it works haha. You think any exec in a company knows any detail? Only those who built startups.

Now don’t get me wrong, there is all sorts of hooky shit that goes on. I could tell you some stories (and I will if there is a private way to do so) however, it really has nothing to do with the slots or the Casino operations at a game level.

I.E, a game might get on to a certain Casino because someone took the casino manager out and took him to a strip club and got him a BJ. But the game itself? It’s perfectly legit.

The reality is, Casino’s don’t need to rig games etc. They make money (loads of it) legally. No reason to risk that. The technology is legit and does what it does The other stuff around it? Commercials, business deals, backhanders for preferential positioning on a casino page. THAT’s where the corruption is. You’re right, but you’re looking in the wrong place There is much more money to be made dodging tax and doing hooky (but legal) business deals than illegally rigging slots

So the What your saying here is…yeah the heads of these companies are corrupt as fuck, and don’t give a shit about breaking the law. But no way would they rig slots. Why would they? They don’t need to. It’s not in their interest to.

Fuck me……really?

You are so blind sided by your own faith.

 

 

[Rb Rbreen91 WANTED $493 Outlaw]

Must be nice finding like minded people. You’re entitled to believe what you want. And of course the minority can be right, but the minority isn’t right just because you’re part of it, no matter how much lies you want to make.

Everyone thinks they’re right, they’d have to be seriously weird to spout shit they don’t believe.

unfortunately, the intelligent approach a lot of the time is to take things at face value, because everyone isn’t trying to scam you, or lie to you. You’re not intelligent just because you’re going against something.

[awesomex WANTED $136 Outlaw]

Just Basics wrote:

awesomex wrote:

Rbreen91 wrote:

Imagine actually coming into the internet to lie about your IQ when you’ve just been rinsed about knowing absolutely fuck all about how slots work.

Who made you the judge of who’s right and who’s wrong? Do you think that just cus a majority of people say something, then that’s how it is? 99 out of 100 people can be wrong, while the 1 can be right, you know? People have always believed that they know better than they do, and since the internet came about, they find likeminded average souls who think the same way they do, and therefor think what they’re saying is right. It’s the same with politics. When the majority of the people in the world are stupid, and the smartest people choose other paths than politics (even though they understand politics better than anyone else), it shows that just cus someone gangs up and points a finger and laughs, they don’t necessarily speak with any more authority than the one standing alone.

I fucking love you @awesomex

Please don’t get hung up on how some of these lads gang up. It’s mostly banter. And I’ve had plenty aimed at me in the past here. It soon swings back to being good fun.

Anyway it’s a huge pleasure to me finding someone like yourself on this forum.

#Legend

Hahaha, yeah I love your comments too mate.

People have this sick need for group thinking and approval, as if that’s a measure of intelligence or knowledge. It’s like Europeans sitting in their living rooms, commenting on how Trump is so bad for the US, while their only information about Trump comes from BBC and their partners, who will report things like “Trump had a meeting with the NK president and the NK president made Trump believe in his lies” – Not a word about a step closer to a peace deal no other president has ever managed to do. They started crying about “here comes world war 3” when Trump got elected over Clinton, completely disregarding the fact that Clinton had been talking about war with China, Russia and the lot all through her election campaign. Or even the fact that Trump has always had more Democratic views than Republican.

It shines through everywhere. People are hypnotized by what the “authorities” say is true. They live in a prison, but they think they’re free.

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argyl53 wrote:

@jb, on one hand you’re talking to a software engineer and IT practitioner with a background in mathematics and on the other, a guy who’s literally worked in the industry of building slot games.

I don’t just know about programming, or random number generation, I know about the entire lifecycle of software in a business under regulation, I know about deployment integrity, data records, audit trails, regulator inspections. And I can safely tell you the only way slot games could be manipulated in the manner you and awesomex believe would be if there was a huge conspiracy involving literally hundreds of people in programming, ops, casinos, game providers, the UK Gambling Commission and others.

It’s like if you were to say the last UK general election was rigged and actually there was a big cover up because the Monster Raving Loony Party won a stonking majority. You’re right that strictly speaking, I can’t 100% prove to you that didn’t happen. But what I can tell you is how our electoral and ballot counting process works and how many people would have to be involved and have taken a vow of eternal silence for a conspiracy on that scale to have happened, to the extent that in the absence of some seriously good evidence on your part, I can be very confident the claim can be dismissed.

So if either of you have compelling evidence that this huge scale conspiracy with slots is taking place, believe me I’ll listen – I’m a learner and truth-seeker, I’d love nothing more than to be proven wrong. But all you’ve ever come up with is hot air.

It’s the complete same argument we both have Argyl. You neither have any clout when it comes giving evidence towards your claims. All you have is what the big boys give you.

You even said yourself that my conspiracy here “could” be true.

many times you have said “yeah it could be done, but it would take a lot”

So it’s a disagreement that’s all. None of us are completely right or wrong.

 

[TheReelStory WANTED $14 Outlaw]

Just Basics wrote:

TheReelStory wrote:

Just Basics wrote:

@argyl53 and @thereelstory

listen mateys I know you both are very passionate about this subject. And I know you both have a fuck load of knowledge on how slots are programmed.

But ffs cmon lads. Have a single ounce of what if’s or maybe’s for for fucks sake!

I myself have retracted a lot of my so called conspiracy’s. Due to having no solid proof or evidence.

My argument is that when there’s a fuck load of money involved. Usually there’s some kind of cover up or manipulation going on behind the scenes.

Neither of you are millionaires, or have any insight whatsoever into the workings on top of the casino pyramids. So just give a little. Instead of giving hard NO’s and Catagorical “Your Completely wrongs”.

Cos to be honest lads, you have no real evidence or proof on how slots give or take once they are out of your hands. It’s the fellas High as fuck above your pay grade that have the answers we want to know. And we are never EVER gonna find out how this shit works. Unless a million dollar company with zero tolerance and who can’t be bought look into the workings of online slots.

So shall we give this subject a break or what? ?

The people above our pay grade have no idea how it works haha. You think any exec in a company knows any detail? Only those who built startups.

Now don’t get me wrong, there is all sorts of hooky shit that goes on. I could tell you some stories (and I will if there is a private way to do so) however, it really has nothing to do with the slots or the Casino operations at a game level.

I.E, a game might get on to a certain Casino because someone took the casino manager out and took him to a strip club and got him a BJ. But the game itself? It’s perfectly legit.

The reality is, Casino’s don’t need to rig games etc. They make money (loads of it) legally. No reason to risk that. The technology is legit and does what it does The other stuff around it? Commercials, business deals, backhanders for preferential positioning on a casino page. THAT’s where the corruption is. You’re right, but you’re looking in the wrong place There is much more money to be made dodging tax and doing hooky (but legal) business deals than illegally rigging slots

So the What your saying here is…yeah the heads of these companies are corrupt as fuck, and don’t give a shit about breaking the law. But no way would they rig slots. Why would they? They don’t need to. It’s not in their interest to.

Fuck me……really?

You are so blind sided by your own faith.

 

 

When did I say they break the law? Of course they don’t. They use all of the legal loopholes that money allows. Doesn’t make it any less hooky or morally deficient. Corporations have, for all of time, done whatever they can within the law to maximise their profits.

Taking someone out for a good time for a preferential decision on your product isn’t illegal. It’s business. It’s not a brown bag full of cash. Buying someone a prostitute isn’t the same as a bribe. It’s still shady as hell though.

And i’m not blinded by faith. I’m knowledgeable because of experience. I’ve been there. I KNOW how it works. I know that it’s all legit and well regulated and that the people who work for Casino’s and slot providers, on the ground level, are all really good smart guys and girls.

If it was really rigged, why the heck would I gamble? I know it’s not in my favour mathematically, but I know it’s legit and fun so that’s why I do it.

Rigging slots would be such a hard and risky thing for a company to do. What i’m telling you is there are far easier and legal ways for them to be shady and make much more money. The one who is blinded by their faith is you. You are SO convinced that this must be true, that you reject all logic that points to the opposite, when in fact if you really looked at it, you’d know that all sorts of shady shit goes on in business (not just gambling. ALL business), just not the bit you’re fixated on 🙂

[Rb Rbreen91 WANTED $493 Outlaw]

Is the earth flat disc or is it a spheroid?

[awesomex WANTED $136 Outlaw]

Let’s think about it this way: Many people are driven by the likes on their facebook posts, the retweets of their tweets and such, cus that’s what they need in order to get validation for what they’re saying. If someone says “If someone is born a fat American man, but dies their hair pink and believes they are a filipino woman, that makes them a filipino woman” and they get 10k likes on their post, they actually believe what they’re saying is the truth, regardless of the scientific facts that if you’re born a man, you will always be a man.

It’s kinda like talking to a religious nutcase – It doesn’t matter what you tell them, cus their fantasy story knows better than your scientific facts.

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