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Literally everyone I spoke to about Brexit wanted to leave. So yeah it’s a total bullshit story they have been selling us.
But these people are in on the conspiracy, JB, they all voted remain, they’ve just been paid off to tell you they voted leave. Prove me wrong.
Can’t be arsed mate
And now you know how everyone else feels when you type something
Listen Liberty pal.
when I type something on this forum.
Its probably the most read post on here.
so say what you want about me. But I’m value for your time.
Don’t be so jealous or tormented by my popularity.
No kid, I was being serious. Argyl53 posted it better than I could have but I like to think I was more succinct.
listen mateys I know you both are very passionate about this subject. And I know you both have a fuck load of knowledge on how slots are programmed.
But ffs cmon lads. Have a single ounce of what if’s or maybe’s for for fucks sake!
I myself have retracted a lot of my so called conspiracy’s. Due to having no solid proof or evidence.
My argument is that when there’s a fuck load of money involved. Usually there’s some kind of cover up or manipulation going on behind the scenes.
Neither of you are millionaires, or have any insight whatsoever into the workings on top of the casino pyramids. So just give a little. Instead of giving hard NO’s and Catagorical “Your Completely wrongs”.
Cos to be honest lads, you have no real evidence or proof on how slots give or take once they are out of your hands. It’s the fellas High as fuck above your pay grade that have the answers we want to know. And we are never EVER gonna find out how this shit works. Unless a million dollar company with zero tolerance and who can’t be bought look into the workings of online slots.
So shall we give this subject a break or what? ?
The people above our pay grade have no idea how it works haha. You think any exec in a company knows any detail? Only those who built startups.
Now don’t get me wrong, there is all sorts of hooky shit that goes on. I could tell you some stories (and I will if there is a private way to do so) however, it really has nothing to do with the slots or the Casino operations at a game level.
I.E, a game might get on to a certain Casino because someone took the casino manager out and took him to a strip club and got him a BJ. But the game itself? It’s perfectly legit.
The reality is, Casino’s don’t need to rig games etc. They make money (loads of it) legally. No reason to risk that. The technology is legit and does what it does The other stuff around it? Commercials, business deals, backhanders for preferential positioning on a casino page. THAT’s where the corruption is. You’re right, but you’re looking in the wrong place
There is much more money to be made dodging tax and doing hooky (but legal) business deals than illegally rigging slots So the What your saying here is…yeah the heads of these companies are corrupt as fuck, and don’t give a shit about breaking the law. But no way would they rig slots. Why would they? They don’t need to. It’s not in their interest to.
Fuck me……really?
You are so blind sided by your own faith.
When did I say they break the law? Of course they don’t. They use all of the legal loopholes that money allows. Doesn’t make it any less hooky or morally deficient. Corporations have, for all of time, done whatever they can within the law to maximise their profits.
Taking someone out for a good time for a preferential decision on your product isn’t illegal. It’s business. It’s not a brown bag full of cash. Buying someone a prostitute isn’t the same as a bribe. It’s still shady as hell though.
And i’m not blinded by faith. I’m knowledgeable because of experience. I’ve been there. I KNOW how it works. I know that it’s all legit and well regulated and that the people who work for Casino’s and slot providers, on the ground level, are all really good smart guys and girls.
If it was really rigged, why the heck would I gamble? I know it’s not in my favour mathematically, but I know it’s legit and fun so that’s why I do it.
Rigging slots would be such a hard and risky thing for a company to do. What i’m telling you is there are far easier and legal ways for them to be shady and make much more money. The one who is blinded by their faith is you. You are SO convinced that this must be true, that you reject all logic that points to the opposite, when in fact if you really looked at it, you’d know that all sorts of shady shit goes on in business (not just gambling. ALL business), just not the bit you’re fixated on ?
It’s incredible to me that you believe there’s no shady shit involved. When you start gambling at an online casino, you have no say in anything, you have to sign a 1-sided contract, written by the other side, and you get no say in any of the terms of the contract. You’ve also got no way to confirm if the information they’re providing you is real. Not to mention the fact that they can make up any excuse they feel like to void your winning bets. Believe me, it happened to me with Betsson, the biggest casino in Europe. They voided a bet due to a malfunction, despite the fact the MGA investigation revealed that there was no malfunction. In the end, Betsson didn’t have to do a thing, and kept their money.
Did you see the AJ v Ruiz fight? Did you see the punches that supposedly knocked AJ out? Ruiz barely touched him, and even so he only got in cus one of the worlds best boxers was bending towards him for ages to let him get the punches in. Holyfield was asked before the Mayweather v Pac fight, who he thought was gonna win. Holyfield’s reply was “Whoever they’ve decided is gonna win, will win”. Here again, there’s no need to rig gambling, but they do it. It’s happened all throughout history. Wherever there’s power and money involved, people will be corrupt.
When it comes to the ones who investigate slots and such, to see if there’s any shady shit going on; if they found that it’s all shady, do you think they would report it? After being flown in, picked up at the airport, driven to a 5 star all paid for hotel, and having a taxi bring them to the office every day? Fancy dinners every night? If they found it all to be fraudulent and they reported it, they would be out of work!
I think you’ll find I specifically said LOTS of shady shit goes on. What I said was, it is NOT rigging of the games. The tech is sound.
I’ve been the victim of a dodgy Casino using T&C’s to void winnings. I had to raise a complaint with AskGamblers and they actually found in my favour and I got my money.
I know this shit happens. I SAID there is lots of shady BUSINESS shit that goes on. The games, however, are not rigged. This is how this started. You claimed some technical details of how the games worked and we told you you were wrong and told you how they ACTUALLY work. That holds true. We are correct on the operation of slots.
That Casino’s will try to find legal ways (and yes, T&C’s are legal) to fuck players, yeh, lots do (especially the Curaco licensed ones). THey rely on people not reading the T&C’s and then using spurious wording and hoping people won’t fight it. That shit is awful and it happens. Not disputing that. It is legal if you breach the T&C’s and they withhold your winnings tho. It’s up to you to read the T&C’s before you play. That’s life.
Ok, so let’s take it from the point of rigging games. I made another post on the forum called “conspiracy theorists start your engines”, where I showed clear examples of rigged games. Live games, but those are audited even more than the slots, yet they are clearly rigged. I even spoke to Evolution Gaming reps, who confirmed that in online blackjack they remove an unknown quantity of face value cards, to give the house a bigger edge, as card counting to give yourself a higher probability is still possible when dealing through only ~200 of the cards in the 8 decks. This is information nobody is given before entering the tables, yet that’s how they operate, which is a blatant violation of the normal rules of blackjack.
Note: This is what they told me when I spoke to them a couple of years ago. It might have changed since, but I doubt they would give up an edge.
Like on the Monopoly wheel, when you get to the rolls, the buildings placed are computer generated, and there are always way more buildings on the board when there’s 2 rolls than when there’s 4. Not sure if this is something stated in the rules of the game, mind you, but I doubt it.I think like this: If I get a win on my screen and the money goes into my casino account, the win is legit. If it needs investigated and the casino says it’s not legit, then there’s a problem between the casino and the provider that I shouldn’t be punished for. It’s way too easy to say “there was a malfunction. Too bad, you lose”.
