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6th May 2020 at 11:46 am #97445
I think your question has many branches…..so they “could” check the various sites to find a casino that uses higher rtp, but as you say in your question, it’s not something they know about , buttttt when I went to the horse races for the first time, I asked and read up on rules and odds ( and on such a sport I was potentially loosing money on why wouldn’t I ?) . poker the same, so I think it’s also down to the person playing to understand the parameters , how does a casino highlight something important if the player doesn’t recognise its importance in the beginning ???? Rtp isn’t a great secret and after finding a decent casino thats responsible, rtp is the next advice that’s given by everyone when people are looking for their slots. 21 casino has a great page taht opens when you choose a game, it shows all the details( rtp included )and you have to click confirm again to play, that could be a way forward for casinos, but again even with the huge banner across the screen the player has to know what the rtp is for, and you’d hope ( because rtp is so high on the “how to find a good casino list “ ) they would be aware of rtp’s and it’s potential in their games…
equally this argument falls into two lanes, low rtp in general , and casinos reducing rtp .. that’s a muddier water…., what seems to be unfair is lowering the rtp with out it being highlighted…. why would you think a game that’s 97.8% rtp would change to 95% ? Well you wouldn’t, and even seasoned player got caught out and only realised it when their sessions weren’t playing the same as they used to…that I think is more unfair to your customers, than just having a low rtp …..
Yeah for sure it is players responsibility and many just don’t care but a new player or even a seasoned gambler from live casinos and bookies categorical won’t know that some providers even have the same slot with 2 different rtps, I have gambled worked in and around casinos for 7 years and I only found out about the differing rtps on the same slot via this forum. I always check RTP to make sure I’m not getting screwed anyways but not having that vital information makes checking RTP beforehand irrelevant. Something needs to be done and I don’t know the answer. One thing I do know is providers shouldn’t be allowed to make multiple RTPs for the same slot and ukgc regulated casinos shouldn’t be allowed to choose the lower end ones.
that’s a fair an valid point…I think as an attraction to the casinos the rtp’s will become the battlefield, and I’m quite surprised the casinos with the best rtp’s haven’t advertised it against their competitors…but I suppose if they were better on “book of dead” say, they may be worse on others …..for sure the answer is educating on the basics of slots and for the companies and authorities to bring all players up to a certain level of knowledge regarding casinos and their games …Equally like my sausages it’s right that casinos openly show the “ ingredients”, don’t want pig when I’m paying for horse …… wait …. that’s not right ….
Yeah it is surprising like. One thing I don’t know, is for example, slotplanet in the UK is higher on book of dead but in Scotland is it? Or Germany? or France? I don’t know what countries can play what sites but what I’m getting at is 1. Is it possible to change the RTP games in different countries and 2. Can they swap and change at any point. So could slotplanet make every Friday/Saturday a lower RTP slot day if they wished? It does sound quite conspiracy like from me which it isn’t supposed to be but I just feel like unless a casino is legally obliged to tell you something they won’t, which is from personal experience working in land based casinos. It’s not lying but it’s withholding information to make more money.
Somebody like rbreen, bio or xbob your man for this answer…. in my limited knowledge, I would imagine all countries can set their own agendas, although Scotland sees it self as separate it would follow the UK regs, but equally I don’t believe the countries set out the rtp, it’s each casino, they buy the licence for the game and choose what rtp the game comes with, so not only can it change country to country it deffo changes casino to casino… regarding lower and rising rtp for the weekends, I think it’s possible, but from a casinos point of view I think they’d have to have Various version of the game, which means multiple licenses….I mean I don’t think I’m a million miles of the right answer
16th May 2020 at 12:02 pm #97448Best person to ask is @eejit101 … I’m pretty sure they will use different RTP models for different markets on games that are available with different RTP. I can’t see them being allowed to randomly change versions at different times of the day/ week though.
6th May 2020 at 12:25 pm #97449Yeah, they are able to utilise differing RTP models based on country. I’m pretty sure Videoslots only applied their reductions to the UK and a couple of other countries that impacted their cash flow more due to tax reasons.
In regards to swapping in/out of higher and lower RTP games, I don’t know if there is anything specific relating to this in the UKGC rulebook, but it may fall under something like clarity and fairness. In any case, it probably isn’t in the casinos favour to do this, as it won’t just be as simple as flipping a switch, it’s more likely to consist of a conversation and agreement at the time between the provider and the casino.
6th May 2020 at 12:25 pm #97450Best person to ask is @eejit101 … I’m pretty sure they will use different RTP models for different markets on games that are available with different RTP. I can’t see them being allowed to randomly change versions at different times of the day/ week though.
Who is this eejit101 you speak of ???? Sounds magical
9th May 2020 at 3:23 pm #97808If anyone knows of a site that uses the lower RTP versions of games that I haven’t listed above can you please post them? As long as they are work with gamban and ukgc regulated then post the name please. Im making a list but more than half my regular sites are now blacklisted so I want to find a few more but cba to go through the whole process of creating an account to find out if they aids or not.
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