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[Du Dune2000 WANTED $205 Blocked]

To be honest I didn’t even watch it – As soon as I saw the warning I knew he would go in big, lose large and then recover it all – he always does.

[Geezawin WANTED $270 Outlaw]

Green2711 wrote:

NJJ23 wrote:

stevenkelly33 wrote:

I agree with this somewhat. It’s about the perception Bandit gives if you chase it hard enough you’ll get back what you put in. The first high stakes RK video from a few weeks ago was probably the most exciting slots video I’ve ever seen. If that was a one off occasion I wouldn’t of replied to this thread. This new video where he is over a 100 thousand in then pulls it back like the last time gives the impression just to keep going and you’ll eventually get a few tops. For me personally I’m ashamed to say it but I spanked my last £200 in my bank on RK on 40p stakes chasing a few tops today after watching the recent upload. That’s on me because I should of known better, but if I didn’t watch the video earlier, I’d of ended up washing the car or cutting the grass with the good weather today. Instead I’m trying to do a Bandit and ended up leaving myself skint for the foreseeable future. I know it sounds bad saying it, but part of me wants to see Bandit upload a video or two showing some major losses to show the reality of slots to ordinary guys like me.

 

Good post Steven, i especially agree with the last paragraph. It might make for a “boring” video but it would also ram home what happens when you do chase tops.

The swings and comebacks for wins make for great viewing but they are also an uncommon reality for the majority. Like it or not the perception that you can chase until you win is most definitely a thing, just depends how you want to go.

He’s had big losses on Reel King before, he used to update a thread on the forum showing tops and major losses and he’s had a few, he just started again playing on lower stakes until he could rebuild his pot although he stopped that thread as he started getting grief from a minority, the majority enjoyed the ride.

It’s a gamble at the end of the day, I’m sure The Bandit realises every time he deposits that he has a chance to lose just like everyone else. What gets my goat is people saying that he might influence someone to play recklessly and lose the entire contents of their bank account. I’m not being funny but you need to be an adult to gamble if you are so easily influenced then perhaps you shouldn’t turn the TV on in the evening for fear of gambling adverts or perhaps just stay off the internet altogether because there is plenty of gambling material on YT/Twitch, he’s a YT entertainer not a kindergarten teacher who needs to hold your hand and make sure you don’t do your bollocks in that’s for you to do if you have a problem, make sure you have the relevant blocks in place, he warns people plenty there’s not much more he can do short of not sharing any footage at all.  if anything these video’s should put you off trying and if they don’t then you can only blame yourself if you watched that last video and tried it anyway and lost. Sure, he made a recovery this time but he also showed you how fast and easily you can lose money playing the game; do you actually need to see a video of him not recovering to show the dangers of doing this gamble? It was clear for me to see at least.

 

 

Yip i tottally agree .   sorry to hear of ur loss mate .  But you done the exact opposite of what people are advised by the bandit .you were irresponsible and now u will have to suffer bcoz of this . I just wish people would listen to whats being said during these vids and take on board the advice given .instead of  just seeing the outcome and thinking what an easy way to make some quick cash .!! I(if only ) would never hope to wish people a loss on any slot to prove apoint tottally selfish in my opinion

[Du Dune2000 WANTED $205 Blocked]

Geezawin wrote:

if anything these video’s should put you off trying and if they don’t then you can only blame yourself if you watched that last video and tried it anyway and lost.

Yep we are all responsible for our own actions, and when I see a guy spunking tens of thousands into a slot it certainly doesn’t make me want to emulate them, I just think “shit I don’t have the money to recover from that”

Now that the roulette has gone to £2 my gambling days are pretty much over.  I watch a lot of slot videos from online casino’s on you tube and what is clear to me, watching the honest ones, is that most of the bonuses are absolute dog shit, and that the potential to lose a couple of grand in an hour or so is pretty high.    Sure there are big winners and they are shown around you tube, but 90% of the players will just end up spunking their months wages in without seeing a big win.  For one guy to win huge, 30 people have to lose big.

As the Bandit says (and I’m definitely not a fanboy), gamble what you can afford, don’t be influenced by his crazy antics, he has far more money than anyone else on this board, and take personal responsibility.  If you can’t afford to lose, just don’t play.   And remember the slots are random, just cause it works for one guy, it doesn’t guarantee it will work for everyone, hence why you should take any video with a pinch of salt.

[Gecksy WANTED $17 Outlaw]

The OP makes one good point regards the affiliation. If people think streamers like the bandit (he’s not alone) aren’t profiting from problem gamblers then they’re living in a dreamworld.

[Eightblack WANTED $446 Outlaw]

Gecksy wrote:

The OP makes one good point regards the affiliation. If people think streamers like the bandit (he’s not alone) aren’t profiting from problem gamblers then they’re living in a dreamworld.

Obviously he makes some money otherwise it would be a waste of time but it’s been explained by the Bandit plenty of times, the affiliate cash goes towards gi<span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>ve aways, maintaining this website and all the various other random acts of kindness the Bandit does, he broke it all down once and its nothing close to amount you’d expect,</span>

 

Pubs profit from problem drinkers, doesn’t mean every man to buy a pint is a piss head, macdonalds profits from greasy unhealthy fat people with no self control but they also profit from me, a skinny dude who’s partial to a big mac once or twice a month.. People are responsible for their own actions.. I am a problem gambler and I find it offencive that people would assume I’m so brainless that I’d copy what I see on YouTube and bankrupt myself..

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

I myself agree with all points made here. Theres the good, the bad and the down right smh furiously. Putting 100k in a slot no matter what your profits are is crazy. Its Simply not something you should ever do online. Gambling 100k to Maybe get even or a couple of grand up is not a good strategy. I don’t care who you are, it just wont work on a profit level for much longer.

But its the way he gambles. So just enjoy it. I love it. And i will also love it when he goes too deep. Cos thats gonna happen at some point. We all know it. I don’t want him to lose 250k but thats the Buzz of it all.

Hes had losses, but no significant ones for ages. I mean the ones that hurt.. Really hurt.

And im guessing most of us have had the hurt more recently. And that makes us salty or jealous.

For someone to have a 160k limit. Just imagine Bandits profits for the last 12months. He wont FULLY say which u can understand. But just think on the levels he does. And then you can easily see that Yeah its all fuckin mental. But it really is controlled…for now.

 

[Du Dune2000 WANTED $205 Blocked]

Eightblack wrote:

Pubs profit from problem drinkers,

And fill the pubs with bright shiny gaming machines with 72% RTP to attract people who are under the influence of alcohol.

McDonalds run a Monopoly competition every year where the more greasy food you consume the more chance you get to win a prize.

Everyone has an angle, everyone is trying to get you to use their product through whichever nefarious method they can use.  You just have to understand that the commercial world is out to screw you for whatever they can get and will use any methods possible.

Just don’t fall for them, and if you do punch yourself in the head – cause it’s your own damn fault for falling for it.

 

[Du Dune2000 WANTED $205 Blocked]

Gecksy wrote:

The OP makes one good point regards the affiliation. If people think streamers like the bandit (he’s not alone) aren’t profiting from problem gamblers then they’re living in a dreamworld.

I think everyone is aware that there are profits to be made from affiliation.   Bandit does raffles for over £6k per month, he would be pretty dumb or immensely wealthy to fund that out of his own pocket.  In addition it is his job so he has to make a pretty good amount over this sum to enable him to do eight videos a month,with a potential loss of £1k or over every time, and run this website

So yep, I have said before I am not a huge fan of affiliates, as I think the greed can kick in and streamers merely focus on the bottom line, eg all 3 minute clips from Dickslots showing out of context huge wins,

Much of the affliate income may be from problem gamblers, but lets be honest, they would be problem gamblers in any case; as long as the streamer puts it into perspective and doesnt just show a continual stream of huge wins then I don’t think they are fully culpable.

[thunderball6 WANTED $272 Outlaw]

Don’t think most off the money comes from problem gamblers . Comes from a large following . Might get a few that get in to deep but they just go on gamban .

[sl slottinggooner WANTED $23 Outlaw]

thunderball6 wrote:

Don’t think most off the money comes from problem gamblers . Comes from a large following . Might get a few that get in to deep but they just go on gamban .

I disagree with this. Recreational gamblers who like an occasional flutter won’t chuck thousands or in a lot of cases even hundreds into casinos. There is a bottom line where they are in control of their gambling.

Problem gamblers whilst no one can be for sure, in my opinion probably make up a large part of the affiliate income that streamers receive from the casinos.

I like the bandit and his content, I look at it as entertainment but I won’t click on any streamers link no matter how much I like them to do a signup. The only exception would be if the bonus terms were better than you get from the casino going direct which quite often they aren’t.

<span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>Coming from a matched betting background, and having studied the maths side of things Casinos are there to be taken if you do the right research, a lot of them will offer a +EV signup almost loss lead to get new customers in and rely on subsequent raw cash deposits or naff reload offers to get their money back.  </span>

 

 

 

[Du Dune2000 WANTED $205 Blocked]

slottinggooner wrote:

Coming from a matched betting background, and having studied the maths side of things Casinos are there to be taken if you do the right research, a lot of them will offer a +EV signup almost loss lead to get new customers in

Just out of interest can you clarify that.   I see a lot of these 100% or 200% bonuses, but you have to stake 40 times your bonus in most cases.  So even if you deposit £500, that still means you have to pump through £20k of wagering, with only £1K.  That doesn’t seem like a loss leader to me?,  Or am I mistaken?

[Rb Rbreen91 WANTED $493 Outlaw]

I find it funny that people think that when people like myself call someone a wanker for a post like this that we’re trying to defend Bandit.

 

i can’t speak for everyone, but that’s not what I’m doing, he can defend himself just fine if he feels the need to do so.

i just can’t stand people who can’t read, and who go out of their way to watch something they won’t like just so they can complain about it.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

I know Im being a soft cunt, but it’s important and you know this as much as anyone.  If you influence even one person to go donk 100k (or 10k) on Reel King, then all that gamstop and responsibility means nothing.  It’s exploitation at that point.  I would feel different if you kept it to reasonable levels, but 100k down is not reasonable by even your standards.

Mmm, I don’t like the high stake RK vids, but I don’t think I can accept this as a valid point. I mean, in every video and forum post on this subject, Steve has always very explicitly said stuff about how it’s not a normal way to play slots, you can lose vast amounts very quickly, he only does it because he starts on a small stake and builds up the profit….what else is he realistically supposed to do? The only alternative is to be dishonest. If he was posting videos showing a £106k balance but not telling you he was £105k in on deposits to get that, I’d take your point, but he shows the whole journey and clearly underlines how dangerous it is and how he can only afford to do it because of previous profit. How many streamers show you their net account history?

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Dune2000 wrote:

slottinggooner wrote:

Coming from a matched betting background, and having studied the maths side of things Casinos are there to be taken if you do the right research, a lot of them will offer a +EV signup almost loss lead to get new customers in

Just out of interest can you clarify that.   I see a lot of these 100% or 200% bonuses, but you have to stake 40 times your bonus in most cases.  So even if you deposit £500, that still means you have to pump through £20k of wagering, with only £1K.  That doesn’t seem like a loss leader to me?,  Or am I mistaken?

There are 3 major matched betting sites in the UK, they all advertise the casinos that offer +ev signups or promotions. One, in particular, has a comprehensive list of casinos whose signups are +ev and what the value of that ev is assuming a stated bet size and slot rtp.

The owner of this site has also created an EV calculator with a database running into hundreds of slots with their rtps, so you can run a simulation to see if a sign up is worth doing. There also is a private facebook group where people who have lots of “friends” have bragged abot making tens of thousands and in the case of a few, hundreds of thousands. I personally know a prolific multi-accounter that has made £200k.

There is a reason why casinos have certain slots that are prohibited during wagering bonuses eg Bloodsuckers and that is because these slots either with a high rtp or high volatility put them at great risk of losing to the gambler.

With regards to your question about whether 40x wagering is +ev well again that depends on the slot selection, a 200% deposit makes a huge difference. If you look hard enough, there are casino signups with 20x wagering. Also, bookies like Corals offer VIP schemes where on qualification they will offer you great sports betting promotions and a weekly casino reload with 10x wagering. Matched betting takes you up to the level where you are staking the same as high rollers but not losing the same amounts because you are laying bets off on the exchanges to cream any particular promotion. The difficult thing is maintaining VIP status as they soon realise you know what you are doing.

 

 

[sidders WANTED $21 Outlaw]

Did The Bandit spend a lot of money ?………………Yes

Could he afford to ?…………………………………………Yes

Are people who watch his videos Lemmings ?.……No……….everyone is responsible for there own actions as we are adults

Was it irresponsible to spend that amount ?.……….No….Its all relative to the individuals income, if i had only a monthly bet bank of £200 then id probs spend it. The Bandit has more than me so I believe he has that £100,000 amount ( which we saw from Casumo withdrawal )

If I buy my fish fingers from Tesco for £1.50  but my mate says im a knob as they where only £1.25 at Asda would i rush to Asda.?…No …Its my money and i’ll spend as i feel appropriate wherever because i can afford the extra

 

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