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22nd April 2019 at 2:04 pm #61622
these reel king videos are boring and not worth watching, they’re all the same
bandit goes balls deep, looks like hes gonna lose it all and then makes a miraculous recovery
222nd April 2019 at 2:11 pm #61623I’ve really enjoyed the Reel King videos and the buzz of hitting a top! My only concerns with this video was that I think the Bandit increased his stakes a lot quicker than in previous RK videos??
He also said his limit was £160K but only after he’d won his money back which is easy to say. I think it would be very very very hard to stop after losing that much, even when it’s profits as I know from experience you feel you’ve just wasted it all and want it back ASAP!
And I remember on a RK video a few months bank The Bandit gave us a limit but then later went past it by thousands. Think it was one when he gambled at office then went back to house later to continue.
Let’s be honest I’m not sure gambling potentially £160K on a slot can ever be described as ‘responsible’ even if you can afford it.
Anyway just me thoughts, hopefully he’ll get back on the £2 spins soon searching for a big hit as that is a lot more relatable to me 🙂
222nd April 2019 at 2:31 pm #61624I love watching bandit videos for the slot action ups and downs with his honestly and character but the reel king gambling is another level that 99% of people can not relate or sustain without causing serious issues in life. It’s reckless gambling and goes against all logic in gambling for fun with sensible budgets that everyone can relate too and we all experienced gamblers encourage.
122nd April 2019 at 2:56 pm #61630I’m a croupier, last night a player was gambling 10-15k per spin on roulette. Of course he has been checked to make sure he is gambling within his means and that he is happy to gamble this amount of money. The guy is a multi millionaire so for him losing 100k is pittance, now bandit may not be a millionaire but he is not gambling with money he can’t afford to lose. The casinos will have checked to make sure he has the money to gamble and that he is “somewhat” mentally stable. in addition they know down to the penny how much he is winning, so for them he isn’t gambling beyond his means. I guarantee if he ended up down £250k on casumo they would contact him to find out what’s going on and where his money is coming from. The problem with you point is that your asking bandit to take responsibility for another person’s choices and actions and in reality only the person making said choices is responsible. Yeah I agree some people maybe vunarable but for me bandit does everything possible to stop and warn these people.
22nd April 2019 at 4:08 pm #61644I’m a croupier, last night a player was gambling 10-15k per spin on roulette. Of course he has been checked to make sure he is gambling within his means and that he is happy to gamble this amount of money. The guy is a multi millionaire so for him losing 100k is pittance, now bandit may not be a millionaire but he is not gambling with money he can’t afford to lose. The casinos will have checked to make sure he has the money to gamble and that he is “somewhat” mentally stable. in addition they know down to the penny how much he is winning, so for them he isn’t gambling beyond his means. I guarantee if he ended up down £250k on casumo they would contact him to find out what’s going on and where his money is coming from. The problem with you point is that your asking bandit to take responsibility for another person’s choices and actions and in reality only the person making said choices is responsible. Yeah I agree some people maybe vunarable but for me bandit does everything possible to stop and warn these people.
just one point… when any casino gets someone who slips through the net who is vulnerable and ends up in poverty with a hungry family or suicidal because of the addiction they have, none of the casinos give a damn. they keep every penny and leave said ruins without a care. There are many people who are members of the forums who hate having adverts shoved down their throat.
Of course bandit isn’t to blame for the creation and evolution of the gambling industry but there question of influence is there. There are some differing opinions on the matter and most if not all of them are valid in their own perspectives.
What is bandit didn’t get the come back. Many don’t. bandit doesn’t have an bottomless barrel of money it seems. So there are worries for bandit too.
I say all of this with nothing but respect in mind and (because of how some people react to my opinions on here) am not blaming you as a croupier, in any way shape or form. However we have a weekly gambling suicide rate.
The issue of concern should be taken seriously.
22nd April 2019 at 4:20 pm #61647he casinos will have checked to make sure he has the money to gamble and that he is “somewhat” mentally stable. in addition they know down to the penny how much he is winning, so for them he isn’t gambling beyond his means. I guarantee if he ended up down £250k on casumo they would contact him to find out what’s going on and where his money is coming from.Sorry, but I am going to have to call bullshit on that line. The casino’s are there to make money, they are not a welfare organisation and there is a long history of individuals gambling way beyond their means without the casino’s taking any action.
Moreover it’s a matter of context. There is a story only recently on here of a lady who gambled away every penny she and her family had, doing, if if recollect, 24 bonus buys on extra chilli. At no time did the casino stop her depositing, redepositing and then redopositing until she actually threw herself off of a bridge.
Now I am all for personal responsibility etc, and people should be responsible for their actions. But I do draw the line when someone tries to portray casino’s as caring organisations. They are businesses that plumb the depths of peoples addictions and create untold misery – please don’t start trying to put across any form of message that implies that they give a tinkers cuss about their client base – they are just cows to be milked until it runs dry.
Their only reason for checking where his money was coming from would be a case of self defense. If he said, I have just sold my house and this is the proceeds, they would say “no problems then, please carry on”
Rant over 🙂
22nd April 2019 at 4:48 pm #61650Maybe I’m getting the wrong end of the stick here and I’m not defending them as many are shady as fuck, but why should casinos do more than they already are?
Put it in to context in other industries:
Do the firms Jack Daniels, Smirnoff and Guinness have to take responsibility for the countless lives and families lives’ that alcoholism is accountable for ruining each year?
Same with the tobacco industry and same with the fast food industry.
@Mr B – I’ve heard you mention that casinos dont give a fuck about the lives they ruin and I 100% agree with you.
The question I have for you is:
In an ideal world, what should they do that they are currently not doing? What would be your wishlist if you had the power to change the industry regs at the click of your fingers?
22nd April 2019 at 4:55 pm #61651In my opinion on this whole debate at the end of the day the bandit can do what he wants his money and his life if 100k is comfortable for him then so be it, in my opinion everyone has a point on here but there is too many ‘ass lickers’ on this forum at the end of the day the bandit is the best streamer by a mile, I do think reel king has spoilt his streaming but that’s his game I play BOD all the time that’s because it pays me 9 times out of 10 so fair enough but too many people on here even if they don’t agree with the bandit they’ll always call people who have an opinion and criticise the bandit basically like fan boys, pretty sad tbf I think bandit is a cut above the rest but recently I prefer watching chipmunks slots, reel king is just boring and the bandit doesn’t play it for the actual slot it’s all about the gamble ladder unless he gets five of the fat men which fair enough it’s made him a fortune but it seems to always be in his streams now unless he’s on paddy power that’s just my opinion, it’s just the people on here who lick bandits arse every time it’s pathetic!
22nd April 2019 at 5:17 pm #61658there’s no way anyone can say Bandit doesn’t say all the right things to deter anyone from gambling irresponsibly..problem is that a small minority of his audience will be problem gamblers who hear and agree with every warning and justification he says but also see the profit figures and be unable to resist their gambling urge..this doesn’t mean bandit is irresponsible but it does mean his videos in themselves can induce other gamblers to have a stab and potentially cause them problems..would they end up doing it anyway?who knows..probably I expect…that said there’s no gambling vids as entertaining as bandits so long may the streak continue
22nd April 2019 at 6:46 pm #61679Bandits Videos in my opinion entertain the majority and upset a small minority………. Bandit frequently highlights the risks of gambling and actively discourages gambling of stakes outside of your budgetary constraints. I gamble far less due to the entertainment of Bandits videos if like the post generator if you are an recovering addict why watch gambling videos of any stake? More of the same Bandit Top Bloke Top Streamer!!
22nd April 2019 at 8:10 pm #61689Maybe I’m getting the wrong end of the stick here and I’m not defending them as many are shady as fuck, but why should casinos do more than they already are?
Put it in to context in other industries:
Do the firms Jack Daniels, Smirnoff and Guinness have to take responsibility for the countless lives and families lives’ that alcoholism is accountable for ruining each year?
Same with the tobacco industry and same with the fast food industry.
@Mr B – I’ve heard you mention that casinos dont give a fuck about the lives they ruin and I 100% agree with you.
The question I have for you is:
In an ideal world, what should they do that they are currently not doing? What would be your wishlist if you had the power to change the industry regs at the click of your fingers?
Before my mom passed away, I got married and as much as we budgeted our wedding, on three separate occasions we realised we hadn’t accounted for certain things. I guess this is somewhat normal when it comes to budgeting.. I mean, look at the scottish parliament construction thing. So I reached out to mom for help. I was excluded so no spinning was going on. We were putting every spare penny in that we could and it was looking great until we sat to do the books, three times. Anyway… mom was happy to help but I know mom was a very frugal person. I also so know to a degree she wasn’t exactly rich but if she could comfortably help, that would be great and it would only be for about 6 weeks knowing I could comfortably pay back.
Turned out mom was planning a wedding gift and in lending us the money then told us we could keep it. This is when I go all DNA test ‘are you money laundering mom?’ on her. Our family has a code where you can help but only if you are not going to suffer. It goes back generations.
Mom was certain she wouldn’t be in any problems so I accepted. Problem solved.
But what if I then found out mom lied ? She then couldn’t pay her water bill or food. The money she borrowed was gone, to pay for things. I would stop short of selling a limb or a child to make sure my mom is ok. I could never support knowing that I had gained by making someone else suffer. I would pull out all the stops if I found I had. It’s what I absolutely hate about the fixed gambling industry. By that I mean guaranteed RTP means if someone wins big, there’s a hefty chance a lot of people got punished. Sure, many will be frugal gamblers (I know) but many will be degenerate. Will have lost their family food for the week/month.
If a casino can DEMAND Bandit does a selfie and hands over his complete bank statements, they can look at someone with evidence who has plunged their family into severe poverty and change what has happened.
I’m not suggesting this is the answer. It sounds great I suppose. But it’s better than the current solution which is absolutely nothing other then a ‘go to gamstop and GA’.
The difference is, I love my mom, mom loved me. The casino industry doesn’t give a flying fffff who it kills. Degenerate fully addictive give it everything gamblers are beyond any form of help at the point they have lost everything and yes, suicide is happened day in day out.
Could they do more ? Yes. Should they do more ? without a doubt. This should be constructively debated, at least by the players. I have a feeling at least SOME people in the industry won’t want it to happen so will try to ruin it.
22nd April 2019 at 8:46 pm #61692Appreciate the reply Mr B and condolences on the loss of your mother.
Your families’ tradition of helping each other when not putting themselves in a position where they would suffer is one I certainly like very much.
Regarding casinos, you mentioned “Could they do more? Yes. Should they do more? Without a doubt.”
Would you be able to expand on that a little?
Should they be ringing players up after a comparitively heavy loss when compared to other deposits and offering a free counselling service? ( I know if the casino I just lost thousands on rang me up after a horrendous session, I’d have afew choice words for them!)
Maybe donating a small percentage of profits to a related charity (with shareholders approval no doubt)?!
What would be the ideal set of specific circumstances in your opinion?
Saying casinos could/should do more is quite a broad statement. But what exactly do you think they should do in an ideal world? ??
22nd April 2019 at 8:52 pm #61696I may be wrong but did casumo not ring or contact the bandit once in the middle of a heavy deposit session?
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