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11th July 2020 at 4:50 pm #101502Not sure if i’m missing something here but what’s the issue with energy grants? Surely the person who signs up (not that they force anyone to sign up) just gets a free energy grant? Yes the company makes money from the government etc but the person who signs up doesn’t lose or spend anything like with casino’s so it’s a win/win for all parties
Same point as you made, the agenda is there. To be fair im not bothered what a streamer does to make money as long as the legalities are all in order.
I think I may have been a bit harsh with my first comment to psychic snail, im sorry if it read that I was having a go at you psychic that wasn’t what was intended at all.
Only one streamer has ever pissed me off, and they were taking NHS donations on what was listed as a charity stream, then skimming half for themselves. I called them out and their pals tried a pile on my twitter and pretty much stopped me communicating with streamers etc on there.
Gabrielslots YouTube comments are home to our old friend Jon Scholes, BIAM legend for flying off the handle over the Daily Mail ?????
11th July 2020 at 5:48 pm #101505I think I may have been a bit harsh with my first comment to psychic snail, im sorry if it read that I was having a go at you psychic that wasn’t what was intended at all.No apology necessary matey. I didn’t take it as you having a go – just informing my naivety a bit that’s all.
11th July 2020 at 7:06 pm #10150611th July 2020 at 7:23 pm #101507I think fair play to anyone making a living for there family in any way they can, as long as it’s legal.
If you watch 1 video and don’t like it then don’t watch another, they are free. That goes for all streamers, weed out the one you don’t like, subscribe and watch the ones you do….simples…..
11th July 2020 at 7:57 pm #101510Chip- contradictory bell end. Can’t stand him, he wants to be loved by everyone and have them feel sorry for him over whatever his latest sob story is, all while coining it in off the back of them. Associates with dodgy casinos but only distanced himself when people called him out. Hypocrite regarding stakes, i dont do this often being something he said daily while spinning at £40 a go for the 50th time. He cannot take criticism in any form and deletes comments to avoid bad press. Just a general charlatan. Tbf Jordan seems a good lad, im sure chip had him sign a contract saying he couldnt start streaming for himself for like 5 years.
Gabriel slots- He seemed ok to start with and i thought he was legit but as time has gone on he has avoided showing deposits and withdrawals and now has some clueless numpty putting videos out for him.
Low stake slots- Seem like nice lads although lets not pretend they are the robin hood of streamers, long or short term they are looking to make money from it. I also struggle with their desperation over losing 6 or 7 quid on a slot. Their money is real but i dont think its responsible gambling if it looks like you desperately cant afford to lose such small amounts. Personally find it uncomfortable at times.
Ryan slots- he’s the biggest con of all and id love for him to go broke. He bought pigs gambling channel which had 8k subs already, clickbaits his videos and its very clear he’s not a gambler or gambled before, he has no knowledge at all regarding how slots play. He has literally started putting out videos to take advantage of real gamblers and make money through affiliation. Pure scum in my eyes.
111th July 2020 at 8:53 pm #101515Its all smoke and mirrors. Most streamers start on low stakes, and as their affiliation earnings roll in so do the deals with the casinos. To the streamers its a way to make an income. No matter what the streamers says. Its all so fake, its the gullable followers that make this work. You get to a point where you dont need to make content as your existing content is still bringing in cash. Weather you are casey nestat or mr Beast it works the same way. Only the fools believe streamers are genuine. Its an amazing business model if you get it right. Cash for life.
1111th July 2020 at 11:41 pm #101523Gabriel slots- He seemed ok to start with and i thought he was legit but as time has gone on he has avoided showing deposits and withdrawals and now has some clueless numpty putting videos out for him.<span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>regarding gabreil his first ( or second show ) he said he wouldn’t show deposit and withdrawals because it takes to long to do ( ??????) and at the time the push for streamer honest with who’s cash they were using was all the rage..so for me, because of the ridiculous reason above I wasn’t Interested ( also… fuck me he’s boring as fuck to listen to ) </span>
11th July 2020 at 11:42 pm #101524The one thing that most streamers miss is a personality.. Rolla could be on any stake and still be likeable and gain subscribers at the pace he is, chip ( and I really haven’t watched enough to be 100%), just didn’t have the stories or the personality to keep me there, and if all you have is max stake to keep an audience well it’s going to get old fast.
12th July 2020 at 1:48 pm #101545I think he is still renting a room because he was declared bankrupt in 2018, according to the insolvency register of England.
Regarding his money he often shows deposits and withdrawals i have no doubt some of the money he uses is real but he has an agreement with Spinz, Winston and Awesome Casino who is all from the same group – he gets a fixed £500 fee per video into his affiliate earnings at the end of the month – so it is NOT his money he is playing with, he may show you on stream it coming out his Skrill account but it is getting sent back to him at the end of the month. This is why Jordan is doing a daily video also notice it’s always on these Casinos. Notice on the BTG Starclusters release he streamed at night as well.. why was that? (It’s in the contract to do 5 videos a week so he had to or he would not of got his retainer from Spinz)
Rolla, HypaLynx, LetsGiveItAspin ALL MADE POSTS ABOUT THAT CASINOS asking them to do this they all said no. Chipmonkz said yes. Why not just be open and say it’s funded by the casino?
The reason he is banned on Twitch is due to many reports on his channel, there is a long thread about this on the Streamer Group UKGC about his antics. Totally illegal and irresponsible gambling. A lot are now trying to distance from this.
Some golden comments from him:
I just want to live a normal life, I am doing 12 / 13 hour days to support this stream and get everything done
I have so much guys working for me its very hard to manage my team but I get there
Is he for real? Hes actually playing Casino games. That’s all. 12 hours a day doing what? If he was not so full of **** people would trust him more.
<p dir=”ltr” lang=”en”>Morning pic.twitter.com/FsNk5XM8cw</p>
— Chipmonkz? (@chipmonkz) July 9, 2020<script async=”” src=”https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js” charset=”utf-8″></script>
Here he is doing £10 spins at 7AM, is this responsible. He then went on to loose £5000 on stream that day.
It also annoys me his apparent lack of knowledge on how slots work. Saying things like don’t cash out as it will effect the wins on the next game or changing Casinos because he has won a lot on one…
If he want bankrupted and was playing these streams with his own money in 2018/2019 as an undischarged bankrupt, depending upon the actual dates of the bankrupcy, he may well have to answer some rather difficult questions as regards to his conduct.
Needless to say the fact that he has now progessed to £100 spins says it all. This all goes to show that a man who left unpaid creditors no more than a few years ago has little or no integrity. There is no question in my mind that he is dishonest.
The man is so money centric I personally believe that he’d stoop as low as he could for an extra quid. I’d love to see him get his wings clipped however he’ll be earning affiliate income for years to come as a result of the gullible fools he’s already signed up on profit shares with every casino known to man.
Now I am not saying that any streamer is a paragon of virtue but it appears to me that this guy is just a parasite who appears to get less criticism than he ought to. The likes of Roshtein etc are so blantantly false than everyone can see it yet this equally crooked guy markets himself as holier than thou.
12th July 2020 at 2:36 pm #101546Thanks for all the love on here guys I may not be your cup of tea and that’s fine.
I don’t normally comment on forums but felt the need to clarify a few things that the fake Stop and step account had made.
I was not declared bankrupt in 2018 and do not rent a room in a house.
Also, I do not stream 12 hours a day I do around 3 tops if I run well.
Also, the quotes he has left that I said are again untrue sadly people will believe what this guy is saying.
If you have any questions please direct them to me on twitter I will happily reply there.
Maybe ask for proof from the op before just assuming this is all fact when its actually just not true.
Cheers
112th July 2020 at 3:41 pm #101548Fair play to Chipmonkz for responding on this thread as he had need to do so, I am assuming it actually is him, As the OP here I feel I need to comment as well.
If there was a bankruptcy against him it is not evident on the register referred to by the stopandstep poster. Additionally an undischarged bankrupt is not permitted to be a company director for at least twelve months. On this basis it would certainly appear the claim made against Chipmonkz is not factually correct. As I commented after the post stating this, without stating this, I would like to apologise to chipmonkz for not doing so. If there was no bankruptcy there are obviously no knock on conduct issues in that regard.
Given that stopandstep appears to have peddled untruths in this respect all of the rest of his post would appear to be equally tainted.
If Chipmonkz is aggrieved by me as the OP rather than the subsequent comments he should perhaps consider posting a detailed account history for each of the casinos he has played at over the last six months to verify the profits he has represented on his website. If he does not wish to do this for security reasons perhaps he could ask Rocknrolla or Bandit to check the figures and speak on his behalf.
This would be a game changer for him as the kudos he would gain from being able to exhibit profits over the last six months with his huge wagering to prove beating the casino’s edge would stand him in good stead. This was my opening criticism in that to me it was inconceivable that a player could wager as much as he does and be consistently beating the casino.
As I said in my opening post it is the business practices I am questioning as on an individual level he is probably a stand up guy. The thread moved away from this.
12th July 2020 at 4:27 pm #101551Hey mate i think there has been a mix up.
I have not claimed to be up every month on slots i am showing that i have been up on stream only for 6 months.
My offline play does not count in this banner if it did i would be down most months which i do explain.
The banner was only put there to show people how we are doing as last year we lost a lot on slots.
It was put there to show people that i dont always win but since the turn of the year we have actually been up each month on stream.
This is not a marketing tool to gain more sign ups its merely to show how we are doing on stream.
As for responsible gambling it really is important that i adress this each stream and say dont copy me let me do it instead.
If you can suggest any more ways to spread the RG message feel free to tweet at me.
Cheers
12th July 2020 at 5:52 pm #101554Appreciate the response from chip when he didn’t have too. But picking up on the banner issue I’ll throw in my two cents.
you say it’s only on stream cash outs/ deposits that appear on your banner. And on stream you’ve been winning so the banner reflects this. However you start many streams with balances obtained off stream, any cash out from that balance gets added to the ‘withdrawal’ section of your banner yet you don’t add the deposits as it was off stream. So it’s giving a very skewed representation of the actual deposit/withdrawal amounts.
also you start your stream stating ‘£500 raw’, yet you have 2k split across 3 different sites. So how does £500 raw translate to a combined balance of £2000 across the sites?
12th July 2020 at 6:15 pm #101557Right on cue, £40 spins and looses £2000 in a very boring, depressing video ??♂️
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