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What’s the hidden part you want to discuss?

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ive posted a fucking video…of a fucking roulette wheel that is 100% magnetised and 100% regulated by the UKGC

I have no solid unrefutable evidence that the roulette wheel is rigged. I only have a very high understanding that games that are in no way transparent can be rigged.

I am not here to change my own way of feeling about this wheel. My mind is already made up. So don’t try to change my opinion about this certain subject. I will simply never backtrack.

Right, well I’m glad we’ve got to the bottom of it and you’ve now agreed with what I said in my first post: “You’re going to believe what you want to believe, regardless of what evidence is presented.”

So moving on to this AI business: you say AI is being used to monitor and track players, to analyse your playing habits and betting and they do this to better target you with personalised promotions, game recommendations and other marketing tactics they think will get you to spend more money with them.

The only bit I’d dispute here, as I’ve seen no evidence for it, is that casinos use any technology I’d call “artificial intelligence” to do this. But it doesn’t matter whether you’d call it that or not; either way, yes they definitely do track and analyse your play for marketing purposes and customising what we call your “user experience”. What I don’t get is why you think that’s controversial; every business does it, it’s not in any way unique to the gambling industry. It’s not any different to how Sainsbury’s Nectar card works. Almost all businesses today use data mining and analysis to target you to spend more money with them, that’s the nature of consumerism and technology converging.

Casinos absolutely want you to spend all your money with them, there’s even a term in the industry “extinction”, which is when a player can simply not deposit any more because they’ve blown all their money.

If you think you’re making some biblical level revelation to everyone by bringing this up, JB, you’re not. It’s common knowledge. You’d have to be a bit of an idiot to not realise this is happening, you’d have to have been living under a rock on Mars for the last 10 years.

That casinos are not above targeting and encouraging players to gamble beyond their means, beyond a bit of fun they can afford, is exactly why we have the Gambling Commission, the regulator I frequently mention and you constantly shit all over and call corrupt, it’s why they’ve fined big casinos including Casumo and LeoVegas literally millions of pounds when they’ve crossed the line and failed to adequately protect problem players. It’s why they’ve revoked the licence to operate in the UK market of others.

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Just Basics wrote:

argyl53 wrote:

ive posted a fucking video…of a fucking roulette wheel that is 100% magnetised and 100% regulated by the UKGC

Where are the magnets in the video? On what basis have you been able to conclusively rule out all other possible explanations for what you’re seeing? And why do the kind of spins shown in that compilation video make up only a tiny fraction of the spins which happen in that exact roulette game from that exact casino, as shown in the unedited video stream I posted in your last thread? Do you accept it’s possible for a normal spin on that particular style of roulette wheel to land the ball in such a way that it slides across divots? If not, why not? How do you reconcile that with people including myself and others who’ve seen it happen on live roulette wheels in land based casinos?

Post me the unedited video again with the dodgy spins also.

Video:

have a look at the 11:20-11:40 mark for an example of a spin landing which is what you would claim uses magnets, but we can clearly see is the result of normal physics operating on shallow divots. Or 15:10-15:25. Or 18:10-18:30. There are various others in there. Notice how when you view this game in context, unedited, alongside all the other vast majority of spins which do not slide or bounce weirdly, you can see how it’s just the design of the wheel and nothing dodgy is happening.

Now how about you answer my questions?

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Dynamik23 wrote:

You brought up magnets alongside AI. You don’t need the exact wheel. I’m telling you as someone who has span on all.different kinds of wheels all you need is a full roulette sized  wheel. If you wnat one similar to this get one with shallow divits but I guarantee ones that are deeper will show similar results. You aren’t willing to see something from another perspective. If I saw the video and had no casino experience I would call bs aswell but I’ve got the experience so know that there isn’t any foul play in this video. Once your business starts making bank even rent a roulette wheel learn to spin which will take you 30 minutes to become adequate and then do 100 spins. I’ll bet all the money I have to my name at least 1 spin will look like magnets are being used. I’ve seen some horrendous things on roulette wheels that look rigged asf. A ball hitting the wheel and going round the rim for 1 minute plus before it slows down enough and trickles in. I’ve see a ball bounce out the wheel hit the screen that shows previous numbers and land back in the wheel. I’ve seen a ball somehow balance on the diamond dividers you see on the wheels (incredible). Casinos don’t need to cheat on roulette, simple maths wins them huge amounts of money.

The funny part here is using magnets wouldn’t even help a large casino, be it physical, online or televised. They take so many bets for each spin that they inevitably have to pay out a large sum regardless of what number the ball finally settles on. The only situation in which it would help would be if they were a no limit table (the one JB shows in the YouTube video is not, online tables never are) and one person placed a bet in the thousands on one particular number that by long odds the ball would have happened to land on if they didn’t draw it away. Yet people do place very large bets on all forms of roulette and win, it happens every day. We’ve all seen Rolla win literally tens of thousands from huge roulette bets. So I’ll say the same thing about roulette that I say about the slots: if the casinos are trying to rig it, the clear evidence is they’re really, really, really fucking bad at doing it.

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ive posted a fucking video…of a fucking roulette wheel that is 100% magnetised and 100% regulated by the UKGC

Where are the magnets in the video? On what basis have you been able to conclusively rule out all other possible explanations for what you’re seeing? And why do the kind of spins shown in that compilation video make up only a tiny fraction of the spins which happen in that exact roulette game from that exact casino, as shown in the unedited video stream I posted in your last thread? Do you accept it’s possible for a normal spin on that particular style of roulette wheel to land the ball in such a way that it slides across divots? If not, why not? How do you reconcile that with people including myself and others who’ve seen it happen on live roulette wheels in land based casinos?

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What’s the point? In the last thread I posted a shit load of relevant points and an unedited video stream of the same roulette game from the same casino which showed completely normal spin behaviour, you didn’t answer any of it, you just shit your pants and threw insults around like usual.

You’re going to believe what you want to believe, regardless of what evidence is presented. It’s like trying to argue with a young earth creationist; they have a conclusion in their head they won’t budge from and no evidence, real or even hypothetical, would be enough to change their mind. Given that you clearly want to believe online casino games are all rigged, my advice to you is don’t play them.

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Hmm, tough one, they all have good potential. While I’m not gaming for real I play a lot of megaways on demo. Bonanza was a big favourite of mine in real play and could go mental, though 1000x was the highest I ever hit I’ve heard of it going a lot bigger.

I think Who Wants to be a Millionaire is probably the one with the most potential, due to the combination of up to 50 free spins and it’s not shy about bringing in max megaways during the bonus.

Primal is probably a close second.

Extra Chilli definitely has potential but I don’t think your odds of actually hitting any of that potential are high enough.

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BGuts wrote:

Andymitzy wrote:

I’ve had a few quid through it and find it slow also I find u get 3x diamonds loads and loads without a tease. Also I can’t remember having more than 2 wins in one spin out of 4 bonuses not many in normal spins tbh either. Has great potential for a massive win had 100x one bonus out of 4 the rest terrible. That was off one hit I think so does have potential. Just so slow and boring it’s hard to explain ha

Thats what i found so infuriating the number of times you get 3 diamonds would suggest a bonus is quite common but is it hell.

Also the amount of times you get 3 diamonds without a win to have acascade also seems a bit dodgy to me. I thought games by the rules werent allowed to tease more than would be theortically posisble (not sure if that makes any sense) .

Slots are not allowed to artificially substitute losing spins for “near misses”, but you can easily achieve the sort of thing you’re describing (a bit like Bonanza’s astonishing ability to find GOL for how infrequently it can find the last letter to trigger the bonus) within legitimate random spins – all you do is put a lot of scatters on 3 of the reels and fuck all on the other 3.

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Is a slot battle what it sounds like? If so, I don’t think I’d enjoy it – it’d be like watching two people have a dice rolling battle.

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I enjoy videos at stakes around £2 the most, but throughout this year it’s hard to escape the impression Steve no longer really gets much fun out of playing at that level. And I suppose you wouldn’t, if you were over £100k up in one month playing RK at £40 per spin, I can understand it’s going to be harder to get excited about a £320 win off a bonus on some other game. That’s actually why when I was slotting I always kept my stakes low, typically 40p. It meant on the occasions I had a good win and upped the stakes a bit, I could get super excited just hitting a £1.50 Secret of the Stones feature.

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I wonder is this the same game Stop and Step played in a recent video in the bookies? Cops and robbers type game with a deal or no deal feature, from Blueprint. Looked positively awful to me, why anyone on a FOBT or online would want to play an emulated pub fruit instead of a proper video slot I cannot fathom. Seems to be just yet another way of milking FOBT customers with shit odds and shit prizes at a comparatively very high stake.

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It’s sad for the workers who face losing their jobs, but it was only the introduction of high stake FOBTs which caused hundreds of new bookies to open up every year on every high street and created these jobs in the first place. In my city, there was a road with seven betting shops including multiple branches of the same brand within a couple of hundred yards of each other. Many of them were tiny premises which existed solely to have four FOBTs crammed in.

The slots with £50 “mega spins” and a capped £500 jackpot were, in terms of odds against return, absolutely disgusting exploitation of players and deliberately engineered to prey on the vulnerable. This is a long overdue correction in my opinion.

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If it’s rigged, why has it not been rigged to simply land nowhere near the 4 Rolls slot, on say a 1 or 2 several divisions away? If you were going to rig a gambling game, would you do it in a way that couldn’t be any more obvious to every observer? What happened to the rigging mechanism the hundreds of times it did land on 4 Rolls and players won large amounts of money, was it broken?

And do people ever ask themselves questions like these before they jump to wild conclusions?

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ligarr wrote:

awesomex wrote:

Notice how it says “500 deposit” and “20,000 wagering”, then you go make a deposit with a bonus on a casino, then try to play DoA2. If the game even opens without a “you can’t play this game with bonus money active” or a similar message, don’t click spin until you’ve checked the terms and conditions for the bonus, to see if you’re allowed to play the game with bonus money.

I’ve noticed a lot of streamers seem to be able to play this game with an active bonus on sites that autoblock you from games you can’t play with bonus money. Seems a bit dodgy to me to be honest, as I would think they need special accounts to avoid this block.

But if it’s real, good for them

I play at most well known sites,Leovegas/redbet/Dunder/etc….and none of these have DoA2 as a banned slot for bonuses as dont many..yes the origional DoA is an excluded game but as of yet ive not seen 1 site where DoA2 is on the list,but will be im sure soon enough.

Also there’s the simple explanation that many affiliated streamers get better bonus terms than ordinary players, which can include being given bigger deposit bonuses (upwards of 200% in some cases), a bonus offered on every deposit, no restricted slots, table games, higher bet limits and different wagering requirements.

I never understand why people get suspicious when they see these monster win videos. Yes, you’re seeing a couple dozen stupendous big wins but the only reason it seems significant is because you’re not seeing the literally millions of spins the game’s had run through it which didn’t pay anything.

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The solution on some accounts after backlash is that video slots have said players can keep the withdrawals as a good will gesture but the accounts will remain permanently closed unless they contact them and resolve the issue.

Yep, exactly what I thought would happen.

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