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eejit101 wrote:

We can also make a Bandit slot machine…. for online market.

I know a couple of providers who can do this. Problem is that is it marketable?

 

“lord bandit – quest for the 0 bonus”

I actually started making a Backinamo Slot game in HTML5 and a server-side API backend, there’s a thread about it somewhere with a little demo video. Lot of time and effort though, haven’t made any progress with it lately because I’ve been very busy. The bonuses were Gandalf’s Picks, Wonky Wilds and Wake the Baby Free Spins.

 

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Sorry, can’t answer you about Magic Mirror, I didn’t design it. All I can tell you is provided the game outcome is random and losing spins are not being artificially substituted for “near misses”, in accordance with regulation anything else can be designed and built however they choose.

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RTP is baked in to the game design (usually via the combination of the reelset and payable). Adjust the positions and frequency of a few symbols making smaller wins a bit more likely and bigger wins a bit less likely and bam, you’ve reduced the overall RTP by a couple of points.

It’s like when they added 10 more balls to the lottery; each draw is still random but your odds of winning the jackpot have been slashed.

So yeah providers have to reduce the RTP by tweaking game design, they can’t just e.g. give a casino a settings page when they can type in whatever RTP percentage figure they choose.

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How can I respond to that? I’m not Evolution. All I can tell you is all these game providers who are licensed in the UK are subject to very strict regulation, inspections and auditing. If they’ve voided a win because of a malfunction, come inspection time they might well be asked to show what the technical problem was and their records of the event and what they did to mitigate the risk. Game providers have to be able to show the exact code they had deployed in production on any given day or time, or their records of every bet and outcome. Honestly, if some of you could see the kind of scrutiny that’s involved in industries like gambling and finance, you would understand. It’s not an afterthought, it’s something that’s very bureaucratic, expensive and hard to keep on top of. To me, the idea that these companies are falsifying records en masse and yet there’s never once been a disgruntled former employee blowing the whistle and going “look, I can tell you they’re making up bet and outcome records for the auditors because I was asked to work on the code to do it” is inconceivable. I can tell you in my industry if that kind of thing was happening, we wouldn’t last a day without someone breaking the silence on it.

 

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Note that I’ve never said it’s not “theoretically possible” for slots to be rigged, anything is “theoretically possible” so long as the world would look exactly the same in every way whether it was true or not. What I have said is there’s no evidence this grand-scale conspiracy involving affiliates, casinos, game providers, game platforms, legal regulatory bodies and auditing inspectors is actually happening, and a lot of evidence it isn’t.

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So theoretically the 3rd point here COULD be modified so certain affiliates could have a version of it where viewers don’t see the panel where  they select “big win” or “bonus” or “5 scatters” etc, as long as the casino (and provider?) agree to it? So in a corrupt world, this could happen?

Sure, to the same extent it could be true that Donald Trump is a hired actor and Barack Obama is still the real President.

See https://www.backinamo.com/forum/topic/roshtein-review/page/8/#post-68050

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Oldmoon wrote:

This is a hyperthetical question aimed mostly at Argyl as he is one of the most knowledgeable ones on here regarding how slots work.ok so I’m a streamer who works for the casino on the payroll, I will call myself Nick as this name has a certain how shall we say.well actually I can’t really say but I’m starting to digress so back to the point in question.i play on a test account funded by the casino as its a test account can the slot provider issue a big win as its not a real account and if yes how .i only ask this as on one of dazzas videos he tests out a upcoming slot and he had all the tool bars at the top of the screen to enable him to get instant bonus big win etc.

There’s a few things to pick apart here and I’m not really sure which you meant so I’ll try to cover all the bases:

1. A casino can, in principle, give you an account which they fund and allow you to play slots on it in “real play” but you don’t get to withdraw any winnings. Very few casinos would contemplate doing this, because in such a scenario they still have to pay the game providers their share of the revenue from the play on those accounts and in the long run, this will be a loss for the casino since all slot games have a long term RTP less than 100%. Nothing about the chances of winning or losing is changed or influenced in this scenario.

2. A casino can just let you play in demo mode where no real money is involved for them, you or the game provider, but it’s usually obvious when this is happening as many games (not all though) will not show a currency symbol on the credits in demo mode and of course even if they do, the balance of the player’s account on the casino will not change. All games have the capability for demo mode and other than the fact each spin is communicated bidirectionally between the browser and game server as free play, the game will play exactly the same as it does in real play including any big wins.

3. Prior to releasing a game to the public, for the purposes of marketing the game and player experience to casinos, it’s very common for the games to be built with a special demo mode that allows you to e.g. click a button to force in a feature or some big win combination. This mode does not involve real money and is not the version released to be played by the public, it’s literally a special promotional copy not connected to any live systems.

I hope that helps but let me know if I missed anything you were asking.

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Biohazard wrote:

So… anyone else here want to name their next child Roshtein, or just me?

I was thinking “Paul Rud” for mine, after JB’s alter ego.

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Not “can’t be arsed”, just “can’t” – and there’s the point, JB; you find it annoying when people do the same thing as you. If you took a step back to look at your approach to logic, you’d see that it applies not just to gambling but any outlandish claim. No one can prove you wrong about slots because your view of this topic is one in which the world of rigged slots and corruption is indistinguishable from a world in which slots are fair and random.

In the same way, a world in which everyone voted remain but the count was rigged and all those people have been paid to tell you they voted Brexit would be indistinguishable from one in which they’d actually voted Brexit.

The reason no one can prove you wrong is because you’re making a claim where the world would look exactly the same whether you were right or not. It doesn’t take an IQ of 180 to see why such conspiracy theories shouldn’t be taken seriously.

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Literally everyone I spoke to about Brexit wanted to leave. So yeah it’s a total bullshit story they have been selling us.

But these people are in on the conspiracy, JB, they all voted remain, they’ve just been paid off to tell you they voted leave. Prove me wrong.

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Donald Trump doesn’t exist. Obama is still President, but they couldn’t let the public know that so they reached out to the actor who pretends to be a businessman called “Donald Trump” and asked him to play the part. But really Obama is still pulling all the strings.

Note that no one can prove this wrong, because any and all evidence they put forward that Donald Trump is a) real and b) President of the United States is just the fake evidence they’ve forged to make you think it’s true (like the gambling regulator do with their audit trails).

This conspiracy stuff is great fun, I can see why they like it…you can make up whatever you want, point out no one can 100% prove you wrong and then claim victory.

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It’s the complete same argument we both have Argyl. You neither have any clout when it comes giving evidence towards your claims. All you have is what the big boys give you.

You even said yourself that my conspiracy here “could” be true.

many times you have said “yeah it could be done, but it would take a lot”

So it’s a disagreement that’s all. None of us are completely right or wrong.

Okay, well I posit that in the 2016 Brexit referendum, the real result was 98% to remain but there was a huge conspiracy to cover it up.

Do you agree it’s valid for me to think that, without any evidence it’s true? Can you prove it didn’t happen? Would you say that belief was a valid opinion? Do you think Brexit should be cancelled because my conspiracy theory could be true and there’s no way for anyone to prove it isn’t?

I’m genuinely curious about your answers here, btw, this isn’t me taking the piss.

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@jb, on one hand you’re talking to a software engineer and IT practitioner with a background in mathematics and on the other, a guy who’s literally worked in the industry of building slot games.

I don’t just know about programming, or random number generation, I know about the entire lifecycle of software in a business under regulation, I know about deployment integrity, data records, audit trails, regulator inspections. And I can safely tell you the only way slot games could be manipulated in the manner you and awesomex believe would be if there was a huge conspiracy involving literally hundreds of people in programming, ops, casinos, game providers, the UK Gambling Commission and others.

It’s like if you were to say the last UK general election was rigged and actually there was a big cover up because the Monster Raving Loony Party won a stonking majority. You’re right that strictly speaking, I can’t 100% prove to you that didn’t happen. But what I can tell you is how our electoral and ballot counting process works and how many people would have to be involved and have taken a vow of eternal silence for a conspiracy on that scale to have happened, to the extent that in the absence of some seriously good evidence on your part, I can be very confident the claim can be dismissed.

So if either of you have compelling evidence that this huge scale conspiracy with slots is taking place, believe me I’ll listen – I’m a learner and truth-seeker, I’d love nothing more than to be proven wrong. But all you’ve ever come up with is hot air.

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1 in 3.5 million people have an IQ of 180 or more.
If you believe it or not doesn’t matter to me, as the people around me in my everyday life know it.

You could have an IQ off the scale that’s never been matched by anyone in human history and you’d still be wrong about how slots work, which is a matter of knowledge not intelligence. You’ve demonstrated a poor grasp of logic which belies your claim of an IQ leagues above Hawking and Einstein, but even that aside, surely it should be easy for your unparalleled intellect to tear down and refute the dozen plus points which have been made against your claims in this thread?

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Rbreen91 wrote:

Imagine having an IQ of 180 and still being as thick as mince? Doesn’t make much sense. You don’t even know what fraud is, as you proved in the past. But you’re a super-genius clearly… ????????

Stephen Hawking had an IQ score of 160 and although IQ is not quite a reliable measure overall intelligence, the difference in cognitive ability between a score of 160 and 180 is huge when it comes to statistics – I mean, 160 puts you in the top 0.1% of the world’s population, whereas 180 puts you somewhere around the 12th highest score ever recorded. I just don’t know how someone can come on a forum, lose an argument and then go “yeah well I’ve got an IQ over 180 and I’m in Mensa so there”, it’s like something a fourteen year old would do, it just shows a total lack of self-respect and dignity I think.

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