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Mr B wrote:

so are you now saying KYC has absolutely NOTHING to do with responsible gambling ?

What I’m saying is when you said

Look at the KYC etc. That ONLY exists because many people struggle with gambling, the same as people struggle with other types of addiction.

That is completely wrong. KYC is AML regulation which also applies to banks, trading platforms and financial institutions which have zippety doo da to do with gambling. Checks casinos in particular do to make decisions about whether a player comes under the banner of a problem gambler may be done using KYC procedures and information, but that’s auxiliary to that industry and not what KYC is fundamentally about.

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KYC is AML regulation, it’s nothing to do with problem gambling, it’s not even specific to gambling.

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Someone said a few posts back that they thought Steve now sees himself as invincible on that game, like he can’t lose. Thing is, so far that’s actually been proven true. He’s bought a house outright with cash, he’s got tens of thousands in the bank and every time he plays, no matter how deep he goes in, he bounces back with a profit at the end.

I do sort of agree with the people saying this is not wise, it’s not a good path for him to keep going down, it’ll end with a major crash, even that there is a legitimate debate to be had over the responsibility of it all, both to himself and his community. I say “sort of agree” because well….there’s the first paragraph above, the fact that he does continually emphasise how’s he got to this position and how you need very deep pockets to follow the strategy, he’s even predicted he will at some point crash badly, it just hasn’t happened yet.

And ultimately, I can’t claim to know his mind. The only thing I know for sure about The Bandit is whatever take anyone has on his play and stakes, whether you love him or hate him, it is an indisputable fact that he’s done a lot and given a massive amount back to the people who use this site. He’s given away lord knows how many thousands of pounds helping people out, charitable causes, random forum members he’s never met, people who’ve never even used his affiliate links to sign up to a casino. I’ve never heard of another slot streamer showing that kind of generosity. Most of them act like they’re saints if they give away 10% of their affiliate revenue once a month. Hell, NickSlots actually takes donations from his viewers.

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Getting sick of these Megaways now. Obviously it’s partly a response to consumer demand for high volatility games with the potential to pay silly money on tiny stakes, but come on….what’s it gonna be in six months? Megaways Megaways featuring up to 50 million megaways which still manage to not connect anything and have a 1 in a billion chance of activating a gamble for the 1 in a billion chance to win a bonus which might not pay anything.

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For anyone who loved the 1984 Karate Kid movie when they were younger, YouTube’s Cobra Kai is an awesome series carrying on that universe. Season 2 is out tomorrow.

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Greentube (Novomatic) don’t offer variable RTPs so it makes no difference whether you play those games at VideoSlots or anywhere else, but a few other big name casinos which have them are Casumo, LeoVegas and Energy Casino.

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Heavens to Betsy, this forum is becoming a really unpleasant place to be. You’ve got to stop doing this. It’s not okay that another poster called you a fucking idiot, of course it isn’t. Use the report button on that post, it’s what it’s there for and if Seedy or The Bandit so decide they will take action. But when every god damn day there’s some drama on here centered around you, surely at some point you’ve got to ask yourself who the common denominator is in all of it. You both bait and allow yourself to be baited. If you want a forum where you’re the law, you control it and you get to decide who posts what, go and create your own website. Until then, accept that you’re going to read some things on here you don’t like or don’t agree with, maybe including the occasional inappropriate insult because that’s unfortunately the nature of anonymous internet forums, put on your big boy pants, suck it up and get on with your life. Stop rising to it.

 

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Make of that what you will, you have no respect for bandit. I feel sorry for you and your issues although you come across as someone who doesn’t give a fuck about anyone. There’s no point trying to show you though. You want to judge but cant handle being judged. I learned from when I am wrong. I don’t mock people when they are wrong. I certainly don’t think someone being ill is a source of fun.

I mean, I could say you are a bit of a dick but I won’t.

On bold 1, my irony meter just exploded and on 2, this is exactly the hypocritical, passive-aggressive BS you’re becoming famous for. You are outright calling the poster a dick, while pretending to take some moral high ground. Right here, dishing out exactly the behaviour you’re claiming to be against.

The mind boggles. I can’t wrap my head around the lack of self-awareness here, it’s breathtaking.

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Ok so let’s start with me calling Bio a cunt. I did so at the end of a barrage of us rambling on and on at each other about a subject where we didn’t agree and I did so deliberately to see how the reaction would be. I got called out on it by people who have casually and repeatedly abused people.

It’s a poor excuse for abusive behaviour. I’ve been on this forum since it opened and the most charitable interpretation I can put on you is that you give as good as you get. Only difference between you and other posters who’ve been abusive is you’re hypocritical about it, quick to cry foul when you feel you’ve been slighted but there’s always some alleged valid moral high ground when you do it to other people. I say this as someone who’s been on the receiving end of abuse from you:

This is really getting silly now and I am really concerned about your and argyl motives. No one should be posting systemic lies here about how slots work.

The implication that slots are 100% random is utterly wrong. You cannot state one is spin is ABSOLUTELY unconnected to another spin.

Anyone who claims otherwise is corrupt.

Profit is more in control than random, regardless of how any randomness is implemented. I don’t care if it’s done by 15 equations based around the random nature of whale noise frequency multiplied by the number of letters used on the root opening page of backinamo.com, divided by the number of users with the letter F in their name or some twat sits in a room blindly stabbing at a number board with a pencil for the whole of the gambling industry.

Not 100% random. That’s all we are saying. There’s no need to be utterly cuntish about it.

BTW – how fucking dumb do you have to be to not realise the bait is set as the thread title. – That’s not a question.

Rest assured bio knows what he is doing here and none of what I said was pointed at you. Look back at the thread about who made this personal. Bio is a straight up cunt. He did the same thing to JB until JB crossed the line and then Bio celebrates trying to get JB banned. That’s a real cunt. The fact that I am unwell and people still want to mock me just shows their true colours.

I really think it’s time Bio addressed bandit when Bandit shouts “rigged” again. Because thats what upset Bio and got Argyl involved, when I said rigged. Which is exactly what your thread is saying, ie predetermined therefore rigged. I said not 100% random, they jump on the bandwagon and try to add lots of bullshit to try and cover up the debate about not 100% random.

They want to define what random means and what rigged means. They don’t get to rig random and still call it random and not rigged. It is utterly fucking stupid. Weak ass motherfuckers trying to defend the industry.

 

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I know Im being a soft cunt, but it’s important and you know this as much as anyone.  If you influence even one person to go donk 100k (or 10k) on Reel King, then all that gamstop and responsibility means nothing.  It’s exploitation at that point.  I would feel different if you kept it to reasonable levels, but 100k down is not reasonable by even your standards.

Mmm, I don’t like the high stake RK vids, but I don’t think I can accept this as a valid point. I mean, in every video and forum post on this subject, Steve has always very explicitly said stuff about how it’s not a normal way to play slots, you can lose vast amounts very quickly, he only does it because he starts on a small stake and builds up the profit….what else is he realistically supposed to do? The only alternative is to be dishonest. If he was posting videos showing a £106k balance but not telling you he was £105k in on deposits to get that, I’d take your point, but he shows the whole journey and clearly underlines how dangerous it is and how he can only afford to do it because of previous profit. How many streamers show you their net account history?

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Gydan84 wrote:

I love playing bonanza, it can be brutal at times but at least u do get a good bit of game play before bust town.

I’v had some great runs of multiple bonuses within 200 spins which all paid 75x-350x leaving me to run away with a built up balance to play other slots. I hear lots saying I don’t get a bonus over 100x but in my experience the bonuses always tend to pay reasonably well mostly 75x + maybe I have just been lucky on it? I have been playing it for at least a year tho and I find it’s my go to slot for a chance of a recovery which has paid off many times.

Best bonus I have had is just over 1000x, base game hasn’t done anything special with a hit around 120x, quite a few times I have hit a bonus and it has paid something like 250x then another drops in within 50 spins and surprisingly paid a similar amount.

Some times it has been brutal but generally enjoy playing bonanza and keeps me coming back with it not taking the piss like every other slot seems to do.

My experience playing Bonanza was similar to yours – I think my average bonus was around the 75x mark, I once had 1000x on 60p, I’ve hit 250-500x loads of times and while I had my share of 1-15x bonuses, they were definitely the minority. I don’t have my statistics to hand, but interestingly I tended to get worse average results of higher numbers of spins. The 1000x was a GOLD +5, but most of my better bonuses were just the 12 spins, whereas I had several 17 or 22 spin bonuses which just burned the vast majority of the spins with no win. I think 14 burns in a row was the record, on a 17 spin bonus. Got to like x5 or something terrible like that.

Also although I can’t establish this as a pattern, I do feel I had a tendency to get better results of bonuses which smashed in GOLD with no tease. On the rare occasion a tease actually found the last scatter, it would usually be a shit one.

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If I had a million in the bank, I still wouldn’t stick £105k in Reel King chasing a top. I guess because playing the way he does has worked out so well for Steve and because we’re all so used to seeing him go tens of thousands in and then make a miraculous recovery to profit, it’s easy to become disconnected as a viewer from how big that risk really is. Even with his money and profit levels, it takes some serious balls to risk the kind of cash The Bandit does. It would only take a few bad sessions with no top (or even only a couple of tops after going balls deep) to completely kill his cash reserves.

I would need to have literally about a hundred million in the bank to feel comfortable risking £20k I could collect on a double or nothing press of a button, so I can safely I wouldn’t be influenced in the least.

I don’t even enjoy the high stake Reel King vids, it’s on a totally different level to the stakes I can relate to. I’m all about the hour of bonuses at £2 – I would say I was influenced by The Bandit a long time ago, but you’re talking influenced in a “I’m going to try a bit of Wonky at £1.80 for a few spins in case I get lucky and hit 3 wilds” kind of way.

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Its a sick place in my head but my trail of thought usually goes like.. “Well if ive just blown 100 that i cant afford, might aswell blow another 100” and Ive done this to the tune of a couple grand, mulitple times.

I know that thinking well and it’s not helped by the fact every once in a while, you actually will get a miracle recovery off the last few quid. Loads of times over all the years I gambled I’d be hundreds down and somehow end up in a profit off my last tenner, sometimes less – the record being my last £2 on Casumo once leading to a £3k withdrawal a few hours later.

 

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I’d say it’s more compulsive gamblers want to keep playing. Years ago, when I would regularly get balls deep in the FOBTs, I could easily go from £800 up to £500 down in the same day simply because I couldn’t walk away. It would put me in an almost trance-like state where the reality of the amount of money I’d lost and its value would only hit me when I walked out the bookies, pockets empty. No win was ever enough for me. I can remember not just one but loads of times I would get a few really lucky hits, turn a couple of hundred in to a few grand (I believe £80 to £5k in 3 days was my FOBT record, entirely from slots, never played roulette on them). Didn’t matter, all that would happen is I’d play every day until it was all gone and then some. Sometimes that would take a few days, sometimes an entire month but the end result was inevitable and always the same.

I discovered gambling when I was about 10, playing 5p stake, £5 jackpot fruities in a local arcade and I guess I’ve always had a bit of a predilection for it, but the dangerous days only started when I was 18, I’d won a £25 jackpot of a fruit machine and on an impulse decided to stick it in one of these weird video slots in the arcade I’d never played, it was 3 machines joined together and all I could tell was they had some shared pot thing above them. Didn’t know how to play or win, it was nothing like the pub-style fruits, all I knew was it was £1 a spin and could pay up to £500. The obscure game I put my £25 in was actually the first edition of Rainbow Riches. On my third spin, it brought in the pots. I had no idea what was happening, all this stuff came up on the screen and moments later I’d somehow won £250, which the machine paid out entirely in pound coins.

Honestly I wish that had never happened – I often wonder how much different and happier my life would be if that £25 had just lost without anything exciting happening.

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The reason I don’t agree with referring to these zero bonuses as “cruel” is because the game hasn’t gone “haha, the win for this bet is zero but I’m going to display it to the player as a bonus feature which didn’t pay anything” – that’s my point, a zero bonus can only happen on games like Bonanza where it’s gone “The outcome of this bet is I’m going to trigger a bonus, which is 12 free random spins on enhanced odds.”

Sometimes you get unlucky and those spins don’t pay anything. As I said at the start, if you want a game with a bonus guarantee, play Rhino or Montezuma. You are in control, you can choose what you play and how far you go trying to get a bonus before you move on.

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