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[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

I said the same! No way should it be able to go 110 spins with the top symbol and not even hit 5. Jammy bastard with the win though, shame I don’t get a cut for being the one who told him about this game 😀

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

Lklfc18 wrote:

No I have been counting. This isn’t all in one session by the way. On skyvegas I keep track of how many spins I do and over the last just under 4 weeks I’m 7350 spins in with no bonus which is unreal! I can’t decide whether to keep going for it or just ban it forever

Depends what you want out of it. If you just want to see the bonus in live play at any cost, sure, keep giving it 500 spin sessions until you hit the feature (and you definitely will at some point if you give it enough continuous runs). If you want to make a profit off the game, you should have given up about 7000 spins ago. On ordinary average session RTP, I’d expect you to be about 4500 X your stake down on the game right now. If you just want to see a bonus and don’t care about how much it pays, just load up a tenner and play 1000 spins on 1 line at 1p per spin.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

How have you done 30m spins to obtain this data? If each spin only took 1 second, you’d have to have the game running continuously for nearly a year to get through that many.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

You say my conspiracies are just bollocks because i have no evidence. Well i say the only reason i have no evidence is because the powers that be will do absolutely anything including murder, poisoning, false propoganda etc to cover it up.

Imagine you were in court because someone accused you of a serious crime and the prosecution’s case to have you jailed for life was “well we don’t have any evidence Just Basics is guilty, but we put it to you the jury that the only reason we have no evidence is because he is guilty and he’s covered it all up” – would you agree it was fair for you to be convicted and locked away?

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Can’t say I have much time for conspiracy theories myself. Holocaust denial is just utterly ridiculous, the Nazis were meticulous record keepers and as such it was the most well documented and evidenced act of genocide in history. I mean, for goodness sake, when you can go and visit the remains of a camp, stand in a former gas chamber and even the Germans are going “….and here’s one of the canisters of Zyklon B we used to gas the Jews”…but there you have it, this is why I don’t do conspiracy theories. I had a mate some years ago who would always be posting on facebook about how the media are manipulating people, everyone’s sheep etc. and yet he himself would lap up anything without question from any dodgy source provided it supported his preconceptions. I remember saying to him once like mate, I’m not saying the mainstream media don’t have an agenda, that they don’t get things wrong or even that they don’t occasionally flat-out lie, I’m just saying zionistnewworldordertruth.org might also not be quite the reliable and impartial source of information you seem to think it is.

All these conspiracy theories rely on the flimsiest and most circumstantial evidence, disregarding of any facts which inconveniently don’t fit the conspiracist narrative and absence of objective analysis. And it makes everyone an armchair expert, like yes mate I know you work as a postman, but sure, no doubt you totally understand physics better than structural engineers, disaster response better than firemen, aerodynamics better than NASA scientists.

Not to say no conspiracies, “false flag” operations, cover ups etc. have ever happened, they have. But conspiratorial beliefs are nothing until they are supported by evidence. I try to live my life on the basis of believing what I know to be true, not what I want to be true.

On Brexit – what a clusterfuck, where would I start. Can’t even be bothered to open that one right now, I’ll just say I am passionately pro Europe and believe that we are making a colossal mistake which will damage us for generations to come. None of the problems in the UK people thought would be solved by leaving the EU will actually be solved and many will in fact be made much worse. Blame for the decline of public services, the closure of your local A&E, the number of immigrants from outside Europe in your GP surgery who don’t speak English, whatever….all of this rests with our incompetent government not the EU.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

odds of it hitting black are 48% longest recorded streak 37 hits against however if you radonmly selected when to place the bet you could easily go more than 37 or 50 or 100 spins without hitting as the odds remain fixed at 48% and probability is removed as your betting is random.

On roulette, surely it wouldn’t matter if you were switching between red and black or sometimes switching randomly and sometimes holding the same colour bet several spins in a row. If you bet on one colour then on any and every spin, the odds of you losing are 52%, so the chances of you going even six consecutive spins without winning are just 1%. That’s just as true if you bet black, red, red, black, red, black as it is if you bet red six times in a row. It’s like the lottery; 1, 2, 3, 4 5 and 6 is just as likely a winning draw as 18, 26, 27, 32, 38 and 41. It’s just the latter seems more intuitively likely as a pick.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

No, you don’t always play the same machine, that doesn’t even apply as a concept to online slots. You have the client program (the bit you see with the reels and sounds) which is downloaded to your computer and that talks to any one of a pool of servers on the game provider side which supply the spin results. It’s like accessing any other website.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

BTG have become overrated recently

BTG were always overrated. Their reputation somehow managed to coast for a long time off the fact that when Bonanza and DHV were first released, there was a little introductory period where they regularly paid out an absolute shit-ton of money. White Rabbit had a short honeymoon too. But every other game they’ve produced has been terrible from the get-go.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

This is horrible and unfortunately far from the first time I’ve heard of the RSPCA killing people’s much loved pets. Seems to be a common MO, preventing cruelty to animals by quickly killing them.

Very sorry for your loss.

 

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

Aborting a game when a bonus comes in and coming back to it later for a “bonus hunt” session is not casino-specific. The game’s take place on the game providers servers and there is always a risk that if you leave a game mid-round, you’ll come back to find the provider has closed it and the win credited to your casino balance. It’s not something I’d recommend doing. There’s also a small risk that the in-play game won’t recover when you go back in, this has happened to me and I just had to wait two days until the provider closed the game to get my money.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

I think personally 99% of moaning about affiliation is straight up envy of the perception that someone else gets to gamble and play slots without having to risk (quite as much of) their own money. It’s basically “I’d love to be able to afford to play a grand on the slots twice a week but I can’t so it’s not fair someone else can”.

How many of those who berate Steve for affiliation would be doing exactly the same thing if they’d thought of it first?

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

Just to add; on Casumo if half your balance is bonus money your bets / spins will be wagered 50/50 between real cash and bonus funds, so if you hit say a £1000 win, £500 of that will be credited to your cash balance. That’s what Andy means when he says you can forfeit the remaining bonus funds and take cash before completing wagering. It’s a really good set up for bonuses, probably the best deal you can get. Also don’t forget max bet size and wagering contributions, you can’t just stick £300 on red on roulette with bonus money!

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

Now I think about it, house edge is probably easier to understand on a much smaller scale example.

Let’s say I offer you the chance to bet £1 on the outcome of a coin toss (random event I can’t control, has two equally likely outcomes). If it’s heads you get £2, if it’s tails you lose and I keep your £1.

That scenario is fair for you – it’s a double or nothing bet on a 50/50 chance. But for me, as the “casino” in that scenario, I’m gambling just as much as you are. I have as much chance of losing £1 as I do of making £1. This means there is no “house edge”.

Now imagine exactly the same scenario, except if you win instead of getting £2, you get £1.80. That 20p difference is my house edge. Yes I will still lose on average half the bets you place with me, but I don’t lose as much as you do. Over thousands of coin tosses, I can expect to make an overall average of 10p profit from each one (half of 20p because I will lose half the bets).

1000 bets = £1000 revenue. 500 wins for you = (1.8 x 500) = £900 paid out = £100 profit for me = 10% house edge.

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Just Basics wrote:

Can someone please explain to me what the fuck “house edge” on blackjack means.

Ive never heard such cobswallop!

Surely the player has the edge. The player can stick or twist on 17 but the dealer usually cannot! Plus if the dealer is up against a full table then wheres the edge?

See members using this term “house bloody edge” all the time to defend casinos. With nothing more to add but that.

Its pish in my opinion.

 

It’s very simple to understand house edge. The casino offers you pays which are slightly lower than the probability of you winning. In a single deck blackjack hand, for example, if you are dealt an ace as your first card your odds of hitting blackjack on the second card are around 32% but you win is only 3:2, so you’re being paid as if it had a 40% chance of happening. In roulette, you get 35:1, as if winning has a 1 in 36 chance of happening when actually it’s a 1 in 37 chance. So there is a small built in advantage to the casino.

It’s just basics.

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

Well, for this to happen there would have to be conspiracy between multiple independent game manufacturers and multiple casinos to develop alternate versions of the games kept on development and production infrastructure kept entirely hidden from the Gambling Commission and also not one employee or affiliate out of the hundreds of people involved in doing this ever breaking the code of silence or acting as a whistleblower, even anonymously.

So yes, it’s technically possible in the same way it’s technically possible that you are the star of a Truman Show type scenario and everyone on this forum except you are just actors paid to take part in your scripted, directed life. Possible? Yes. Any more likely than me shitting out diamonds? No.

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