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I’ve had a retrigger on skulls, it can occasionally surprise you just like you can get 9s and end up with one wild on the last spin.

Only time I ever hit 500x was on the other High Voltage feature though – tacos all the way across on x44 wild reel.

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I miss that guy who went by the handle awesomex.

“Yeah slots are rigged. Casinos manipulate the RTP for streamers so they get bigger wins.”

“No they don’t. That’s bollocks.”

“Actually, I’m in Mensa and have an IQ of 189. You can’t even understand the argument on the level I’m presenting it.”

Mate, you said casinos are altering games from 3rd party providers to pay streamers more money, it’s not fucking Nietzsche.

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Bonanza appears to be the clear winner here, which I agree is a ruddy fantastic game! Yet would probably also win my award for most frustrating slot ever. 117,000 ways making no win, GOL on the first 3 reels with no drop, GOL with seven drops clearing the entire grid and still never finding that fourth scatter, +5 virtually guaranteeing you a worse than average feature….need I say more? 😀

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Haz40 wrote:

Well I’ve never seen it. Good question though. I wonder what argyll or bio’s theory would be to the randomness of the feature

Never played the game or done a technical inspection of the game client, so unfortunately can’t even speculate on this one. Some games have random bonuses, some are pre-determined.

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LCA81 wrote:

argyl53 wrote:

So there’s no money in it? And all these streamers depositing everyday some of them, or depositing thousands at a time are using there own money? If the bandits one of the biggest and he’s not making anything how are the others doing it?

Yes, no one makes a single penny in affiliation, that’s obviously exactly what I was saying

Your trying to say there is very little money in it by your explanation and how do you know how much the bandit makes are you his accountant?

I’m not saying there’s very little money in it. I’m saying it’s utter bollocks to claim an affiliate gets £40 for every £100 any player they’ve referred loses, or anything remotely close to that figure.

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duc-blackjack wrote:

@argyl53

“First, very few casinos offer the kind of affiliate commission rates you’re claiming – I only know of one doing 40% and that’s Casumo, after you’ve referred a certain number of players (the early batches being on a lower percentage).”

SlottyVegas has it as well, note I said “up to”.

Next, you appear to be implying this means if a player loses £1000 on Casumo, the Bandit gets £400 in his bank account.

I’m guessing you are drunk or just an inbred, read my post again thoroughly and realize how stupid you look, I literally explained this in a less contrived manner.

if one lucky sod out of 500 hits a £10k win, bam goes 100% of your affiliate earnings for that month

Yeah, for that casino, luckily there are NINE casinos, practically guaranteeing monthly profits, most affilate programs reset debts monthly as a gesture of goodwill, especially for larger affiliates

Add to this the amount Steve wagers, loses and pays out in giveaways, tax, business and staff costs each month and I’d honestly be surprised if he’s left with a grand or two for himself from affiliate revenue by the end of a month.

Severely mistaken

 

But don’t take it from me, I only make €1,000 – €2,000 a month from affiliate referrals….

So you acknowledge that actually this (up to) 40% in reality amounts to less than 10% of a player’s gross losses? Otherwise, nothing new in your post. You haven’t actually contradicted or rebutted a single thing I said, other than to pull out your arse that I’m “severely mistaken” about Steve’s earnings and costs, absentia of any evidence.

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So there’s no money in it? And all these streamers depositing everyday some of them, or depositing thousands at a time are using there own money? If the bandits one of the biggest and he’s not making anything how are the others doing it?

Yes, no one makes a single penny in affiliation, that’s obviously exactly what I was saying ?

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duc-blackjack wrote:

Slev82 wrote:

Think your head is in the Blue somewhere if u honestly Think he earns that much from other players losing.

You realize most casinos offer up to 40% commission on LIFETIME deposits, right?

If one person loses 10k in a month, which happens a lot when you have 5,000 affiliates, others will need 4k in profit to break-even, of course most players lose so he can easily make up to £50,000 or even more in a good month, alternatively it could be only £5,000 in a bad one.

Oh dear. Let’s dissect this.

First, very few casinos offer the kind of affiliate commission rates you’re claiming – I only know of one doing 40% and that’s Casumo, after you’ve referred a certain number of players (the early batches being on a lower percentage).

Next, you appear to be implying this means if a player loses £1000 on Casumo, the Bandit gets £400 in his bank account. No. Not even remotely close. It’s 40% on “net losses”, which means all sorts of fees have been deducted before Steve’s 40% is even calculated. There’s the game licence fees, the provider’s cut of the losses, the casino’s costs plus admin fees at a minimum. This means the reality is that from a £1k gross loss, an affiliate on 40% commission earns less than £100 as their cut.

Next, other casinos – some commission models combine all your referred players, so if one lucky sod out of 500 hits a £10k win, bam goes 100% of your affiliate earnings for that month, since your net commission (again after deducting costs before calculating) is now a negative figure.

Next, ineligible referrals. Loads of the players who sign up to a casino through your link will not make it past the particular requirements of deposits, wagering and retention for them to actually qualify as a successful referral for payment. Drop off can be as high as 50% here. Merely registering does not get the affiliate any pie.

Finally, most of Steve’s deals are CPA where he gets a set fee of about 30 to 50 quid for each player who signs up, deposits and wagers over a certain amount. This fee is a one-off.

Add to this the amount Steve wagers, loses and pays out in giveaways, tax, business and staff costs each month and I’d honestly be surprised if he’s left with a grand or two for himself from affiliate revenue by the end of a month.

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It is technically possible for a dodgy casino to rip off a legit game, yes, this has actually happened – rogue casinos have been known to host their own illicit and unlicensed copies of NetEnt and Novomatic games.

But it’s important to point out:

1. There has never been a case of a UK licensed casino doing this, the regulation and audit checks and indeed ability to be sued by the provider are far too stringent for anyone to get away with doing that here.

2. It’s obvious when it happens if you know what to look for, primarily that the game should be loading from a known legitimate CDN. So any casino which tries it is very swiftly caught out, as happened with the few cases to which I refer.

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lots of slots wrote:

Give Chipmonk a break. He quit his job to make gambling addicts for his own gain. Now he is getting desperate as he knows when the UKGC ban affiliate links and streams to Casinos he isn’t going to get his old job back. That’s why he is advertising any cumbucket Casino. Desperate times/ desperate measures and all that!!

The UKGC certainly don’t have any power to ban slot streamers and I don’t think they have the power to ban casinos offering affiliate schemes without further legislation either.

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I’d wager Steve’s made more profit from his last 2 videos than he makes from affiliation in a year. Yes, it’s one of his income streams but I don’t think it’s nearly as important or vital to him as some people believe.

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I’m not saying Steve doesn’t want more visitors, more traffic, more viewers, more growth….I’m sure he does. But I am saying if anyone thinks he went “I’m doing a six grand giveaway and you don’t have to use any of my casino links to take part” in order to get more people to use his casino links, he may not be quite the shrewd business genius some of the cynics on this thread seem to think he is.

I believe him. I know the Bandit is sincere, so when he says “I did this because I thought it’d be nice to give people who can’t enter my normal monthly prize draws the chance to take part in one at Christmas”, I am happy to take his word on that. If other people aren’t, fair enough, but as I said above opening a prize draw with the specific proviso you don’t have to have used his affiliate link to take part is a strategically poor way of getting people to click your affiliate links.

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I didn’t say anything about “true followers”. The Bandit opened up the giveaway to anyone who joined this site, even if they’ve never used his affiliate links. Being a member on the forum isn’t monetised, it doesn’t get him anything. If you believe your mere email address is somehow getting him a pay off at your expense, what are you doing here?

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Xbobmad wrote:

Can you imagine Donuts Megaways though

Instead of a charity donation, I vote the Bandit gets you a lifetime subscription of Krispy Kremes delivered to your door every day until the very mention of the word donut makes you want to puke ?

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THEBARON wrote:

cant beleive people are still going  on about this giveaway its got quite ridiculous if i was thebandit ide remove every giveaway from my site and give fkall away again after all this  wouldent get the steam off my shit with the way people have went on have yous all forgot about the other giveaways the guys done and the charity the thousands gave away out of generosity the guy dosent have to do it ya no and give is own money away   he does it cause hes a decent bloke and its his way of giving abit back not is fault people took the piss out of hes generosity in the first place same everywere really give a inch people take a mile

Absolutely agree. Bandit is a top bloke who tried to do something nice specifically to include people who for various reasons might not have used his affiliate links or be active on any casinos and people are still accusing him of doing it to get new affiliate sign ups. What a joke. Damned if he does, damned of he doesn’t.

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