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Rbreen91 wrote:

Yeah, personally, I wouldn’t know where to begin if I wanted to do some videos, I’d have to pay someone to do all my editing and stuff because it’s not something I’ve ever done. I’ve never even used photoshop before. Never mind video editing. ??

I tried it photoshop and video editing myself, and it’s not actually that hard. Everything can be figured out with the internet. Google is your friend! 😀

 

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Dc39 wrote:

Maybe just me but all these streamers coming out protesting how honest and transparent they are about fake money isnt washing with me, making out like they are doing us a favour, i iust dont get it.

Why not be more transparent and say how much they earn a month doing this? I would respect them all more for it. I would happily reveal what i earn if i was asked!

I seen that idiot chip saying he was 30k down in a year on casumo, in my opinion he is the worst streamer who cashes out the minute he can, wonder how much he is making bearing in mind he fucks off at the earliest opportunity?

I want your wage slips for the last 6 months posted here.

lol

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LCA81 wrote:

I watched jimbos disclosure vid, he said all of the known streamers where down massively over the lifetime on certain casinos and his £25,000 down on casumo I think he said was the lowest! So how much is been made off affiliation! Craig said he gives all of his away on giveaways, for full transparency the might as well show these figures then everything is out in the open

I’m 25k down on casumo myself, and I’m not a streamer. Atleast Jimbo gets his money back through affiliation.

I like Jimbo. He seems very real to me. What I don’t like is when people don’t stream themselves. When they group up and have other people in their streams. When they have a “too professional” kinda look on it. To me I like the old looking stuff, where they sit in their own house alone with their own computer and don’t have friends over watching, and it’s the same dude playing all the time.

I used to love casinodaddy, but it’s not the same to me to watch the other guys there stream. I started following them when it was just the bros streaming, now they have people working for them to stream. I tune in to their channel every other day to talk with some of the people in chat, but that’s it really.

It’s the same with Fruity. I mean I like that one guy. Josh or whatever. He’s entertaining. Think he’s the main guy, but anyway.. The rest i can’t relate to, and so I dont watch them.

My absolute fav used to be LGIAS, but that was when he was sitting on the couch at home, not in some office or whatever with a million people around him.

 

 

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Nice win. I’ve actually never had a full screen premium symbol on Book of Dead. I’ve had 4 of a kind every premium in the bonus, and I’ve had a line of explorer, but never had a full screen. Hopefully it happens soon.

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argyl53 wrote:

Liberty wrote:

I was only asking for proof because awesomex said he had it lol.

I sees. There probably isn’t any, I can’t imagine what proof would be out there because of course any content creator only has to reveal what they choose. It intrigues me that fake streamers have become a hot topic since Paul’s video though; I always took it for granted there were many fake streamers and they are for the most part fairly easy to spot on at least balance of probability if not proof. I watch around 5 including Steve and Paul who I believe to be wholly genuine, real money gamblers and more importantly, I find them fun to watch. Even if e.g. Roshstein is real, his style and persona still turn me off like a granny’s sagging, wrinkled tits.

Yeah that was kinda my point. Don’t claim irrefutable evidence if you can’t provide it etc.

Anyway I’ve watched about 30m of roshtein and whether he’s real or fake he’s not doing it for me so I just don’t watch him. Each to their own, hell I like the bearded Dutch guy everyone else seems to dislike and I enjoy/ed watching davos. Watch what you enjoy. Ignore what you don’t. Simple.

I honestly don’t get why anyone can find David Labowsky entertaining, cus he’s the most boring human being I have ever seen on YouTube by a mile.

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argyl53 wrote:

Nah, bad idea. It’s like if you think hmm well i like pizza, I like ice cream and I like orange juice so maybe if I put all those things in a blender the result is awesomeness. Doesn’t work.

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Well they are providing a service you can enjoy for free, so in a way they’re doing you a favour. Atleast if you watch their content.

As for the transparency trend, people better be out with it fast, cus the longer it takes for people to do it, the more questions people will ask to them why they waited so long, while coming with accusations like “you waited 2 weeks cus that’s the time it took you to photoshop it, didn’t you?”.

But for real dude, people have other shit to do as well, and the affiliates should be more than happy with their money back from their streaming sessions, cus at the end of the day it’s the affiliation that gives them their income. The gambling is an expense in the long run.

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Lol JB you’re absolutely loving this, aren’t you? I know I am haha

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Yeah this is gold lol

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Gecksy wrote:

These affiliate numbers are incredible I had no idea they were that much.

Also didn’t realise that once joining up via someone’s link that they get a % of someone’s losses forever. It’s hard not to think this is immoral.

It’s just how affiliation works. It’s like this with everything. If I run an affiliate business, say I get people to go play an RPG, I can get as much as 50% of what they spend on that RTP (after deductions for expenses). But the expenses are so small, and the companies look at it like “50% of something is better than 100% of nothing”, so they gladly set up deals like this. If you can refer someone to something, there’s money to be made from splitting the profit the company makes off of them.

When it comes to Roshtein, I think there are so many things out there right now that I think this is a clear cut case. He’s not some wonderboy who just happened to find a few casinos that happen to be richer than the biggest casinos in the online gambling industry, who’s investors don’t mind giving all the profits to this autistic swedish boy in Malta.
Just add it all up. If you still believe he’s for real, I’m sorry to say, You’re a dumbdumb

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argyl53 wrote:

Now you’ve posted both start and finish pictures, you can see only the top horizontal reel has changed, so it’s probably just a display glitch where it doesn’t reset that reel from whatever it was in the final bonus spin on exit to the base game. If you look at the start point, there was not a queen win there.

I second that explanation

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awesomex wrote:

Ok, here’s one for you: Have a look at his “deposit methods”. First of all I find it odd that he deposits with one source and withdraws with another. 2nd, I find it odd that he deposits with Trustly, cus according to the customer service at Casumo (I just asked them) it usually takes a few hours before the money is available in your casino account when you’ve deposited with Trustly. Sometimes it’s the next day.

This means Roshtein is the ONLY streamer I know who deposits the day before in order to be guaranteed to play the next day. I don’t actually know anyone who does it this way.

And if you look at this screenshot from 2017, Roshtein was down 18k euros in a week there. According to many who watched his stream, that’s a normal week for him around that time. Now if that’s the case, 18k euros a week negative makes for 936,000 euros lost in a year. If affiliation is gonna cover that, it means he needs to bring in way over 10 million a year in net business for the casinos he promotes just to cover his losses. And if he’s got that kinda money to spend every month, he’s gotta have a million a year on top of that to spend on himself and his personal life. Atleast. So that means this skinny autistic child brings in over 20 million a year for the casinos he promotes. I mean, he gotta live off of something too, he cant spend it all on casinos. Surely if you need 1 million euros a year to cover your gambling losses, you’re gonna make atleast 2, or you’re a pretty retarded individual, right?

 

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Ok, here’s one for you: Have a look at his “deposit methods”. First of all I find it odd that he deposits with one source and withdraws with another. 2nd, I find it odd that he deposits with Trustly, cus according to the customer service at Casumo (I just asked them) it usually takes a few hours before the money is available in your casino account when you’ve deposited with Trustly. Sometimes it’s the next day.

This means Roshtein is the ONLY streamer I know who deposits the day before in order to be guaranteed to play the next day. I don’t actually know anyone who does it this way.

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PsychicSnail wrote:

@awesomex You make a compelling argument. I can confidently say you will never meet a more honest man than me. Although I attempt to exercise scepticism, I am by nature a trusting sort. Gullible perhaps.

No one likes to shown to be wrong, even on an anonymous pubic forum, but yes, it seems that I could well be wrong. It doesn’t mean I believe you have an IQ of 180 though, I’m not that damn gullible! :).

Makes a lot of sense to believe several casino sites are not actually casinos, but charitys who exclusively donate money to a single misfit swedish child on Twitch and YouTube, rather than believing someone has an IQ of 180.

Chances of the first one being true: 0.

Chances of the 2nd being true: 1:20,000,000

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argyl53 wrote:

@PsychicSnail my intuitive suspicion would be that as has been suggested, it’s a mix of real and fake where he’s making low real cash deposits and getting huge, unrealistic bonus amounts on them no ordinary player would get.

From what I’ve heard, only 5% of the deposit is actually Roshtein’s money. I also heard he had a max cashout, but let’s forget that one for a moment and pretend he doesn’t have a max cashout.

That means his 2000 euro deposit is really a 100 euro deposit. And when he wins 50k it’s actually 2.5k.
This sounds WAAAAAAY more likely and affordable to me.
However, that wouldn’t draw the customers/viewers. His huge bets do that. 50 euro bets is more like 2.5 euro bets if this is the case, and puts his stakes at a pretty bang on average stake.

This sounds like a very likely possibility if you ask me.

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