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Rbreen91 wrote:

ive looked this up, and this simply isn’t true… you’re a fucking moron.

 

It’s very much true you fucking imbecile, I have tons of friends and family in Cali who told me how their kids were being taught this shit in school, so I dont give a fuck what kinda source you look at, cus what I’m saying is absolutely true!

 

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Rbreen91 wrote:

The game play is real. That’s what matters. I don’t care if anyone makes money gambling. I just watch to see new games and decide whether they show potential before I put my money into them.

As eejit said, games can be hacked. If Roshtein exclusively promotes casinos nobody else will promote, who are willing to let him lead people to believe in lies, who’s to say they haven’t manipulated the games as well?

Look, if he was up front about it all and was honest and told people just how much is his money, and what his withdrawal cap is, I wouldn’t complain about it at all. But this shit, where he blatantly lies, that’s a big problem in my book, and he should be jailed for it.

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spopple wrote:

I dont get why its more exciting if its “real money”, its not your money, real or fake money at the end of the day it has no impact on you. None of its real to me because I aint withdrawing what the guys betting are, I couldnt give a cunt hair if nickslots or letsgiveitaspin withdraw 5k.

It matters because the whole point of his stream is to advertise for potential customers, and he’s leading them to believe that his bullshit is real. There’s a reason why affiliates play with as big a stake as they can, cus that’s obviously what attracts people. 1000x win on a game at 9p stake is nice and all, but in the end it’s £900, which is less than half of what most people make every month at work. Not exactly life changing money that gets people’s attention. However, when someone plays at £50 stake and gets a 1000x win, now that’s some serious money, which attracts people who believe they can achieve what he’s doing. He’s downright scamming people, and that pisses me off. If it doesn’t piss you off, there’s something wrong with you. The rest of us work hard for our money and don’t wanna lose it to scammers.
He also advertises shitty casino sites that will find any excuse to void your wins and keep your money. There’s a reason why this guy isn’t an affiliate with Casumo, Videoslots, Rizk, Betsson and the other big sites – Cus they don’t allow scammers to work for them, as it’ll hurt their reputation.

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awesomex wrote:

If you take into account that Roshtein’s own money is only 5% of the original deposit, before the bonus is added (IE: 2000 deposit, 6000 bonus, Roshtein’s real deposit is 100 euros), and he has a max cashout of 500 euros, you can see how his 9200x win is as useless as it gets. End of the day he only gets 500 back, and that’s likely after quite a bit of 100 euro deposits. He might even be at a loss of a few hundred euros. I explained everything about how fake Roshtein is in another thread here, you can go look at my answer there.

Erm how would you possibly know this as fact?? Really can’t see him streaming up to 12 hours a day if that was the case – how could you possibly keep that energy up and excitement for big wins! My god it would be boring if you could only win 500 lol. I only see genuine excitement at winning big and if he’s really just acting with the reactions then he needs a new career on film and TV! I don’t doubt he gets a good affiliate deal but not that like. The casino just increased his wager from 40x to 45x too. He’s obviously a gambler and if you take away the chance to win big then you take away the gambler. Can’t think of anything worse than free spin slots? the buzz I get is from the potential of the wins!!!!!!!

Cus I’ve worked with streamers for 3 years, and some of them have been contacted by the casinos Roshtein promotes, where they’re talking about the deal they’re willing to offer them – The same deal as Roshtein has.
Here is a screenshot of part of the conversation between one of the reps for a casino affiliate I moderate for and an affiliate manager from a casino Roshtein advertises for:

Roshtein is also the outcast when there are casino affiliate gatherings in Malta. Nobody talks with him, nobody wants to be seen with him, cus all it takes is a picture of people looking buddy-buddy with him and their reputation is ruined.
If you find a guy who’s big win reactions are as real as the screaming from professional pornstars when they “climax”, then by all means, enjoy the stream. But don’t defend this scam artist and say his money is real.
In the other thread about Roshtein here, eejit who’s an insider in the industry confirms that Roshtein has a deal where his deposits mainly belongs to the casino. I’ve been investigating this piece of shit for a long time, and every single bit of evidence supports the claim that he’s a fraud. But if you let yourself be fooled, then by all means enjoy it.

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Haz40 wrote:

So last night i decide to play an online poker tournament for the first time in a while on my mates account on party poker. I was down a little over the last week so entered an $11 event 5k prize money. 474 entrants and came 15th winning $55. Not bad and then tonight quick nip to town for few quid on ladys lucky charm. 5 spins bonus lands and re triggers. £180 up which puts me about evens for the week. I find the poker less risk than the slots but i just can’t play these tournaments though. I don’t have the time. This one was 4 hours finishing at 2am. I do enjoy them though especially when you get into the tournament with a good stack.

4 hour poker tournament for £44 profit, £11 per hour profit. I mean, atleast it’s profit lol. But that’s the problem with poker for me. They shouldn’t spread the prize pool that much. Just give prizes to top 10-20 players, not top 20% like they usually do, then you actually might win something that’s worth sitting for over 4 hours playing one tournament.

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It’s been Bonanza for me for way too long. 300,000 spins, biggest win is 650x. I’m gonna keep chasing this fucker until I get that 1000x win, then I’m never playing it again lol.

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Just Basics wrote:

Simple solution mate.

Buy a ring in your price range. The wife to be won’t give a flying fuck in how much it costs if she truly lubs ya!

My mate got married in 2001 and spent 150 quid.

#StillMarried

#StillInLove

#MoneyMeansFuckAllWhenItComesToHappiness

Honestly mate, you’re the one I agree with the most on this forum. If you were a chick I’d #”%? you. Just sayin

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Oh yeah, and my favs are:
Bandit
Slotspinner
Rolla
Jimbo
LGIAS (Not as much anymore. Used to like it more before his channel became huge, when it was just him playing on a laptop on the couch at home)
Honestly, I think that might be why people like Rolla, Jimbo and Bandit. They play from home, without anyone else there (normally), and they don’t have tons of people with them in an organisation such as Casinogrounds, Casinodaddy/aboutslots etc. It’s just them, with real reactions, real conversations, real banter.
I dislike people who are too close to the casinos and game providers, and people who aren’t playing with their own money. I think everyone agrees, and want to see people who they can relate more to. I don’t tell anyone about my gambling habits. I keep that purely to myself, besides what I share with you fuckers on the internet lol.

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argyl53 wrote:

Yeah also same as Haz, with Jimbo in fourth. Conversely, the ones I can’t stand are:

1. Fruity Slots; annoying, chavvy, everything about them reminds of me the kind of witless “lads” who go out on a pub crawl (but only to places serving Stella), shout “get your tits out love” at random women on the street and use phrases such as “all about the bantz” in their Tinder profile.

2. Roshtein. The combination of bad acting, fake money and questionable casinos makes him a bit less entertaining than a babysitting a six year old girl and being forced to watch Disney’s Frozen on repeat for 8 hours.

3. Craig Slots; I think he’s run out of money now, haven’t seen much of him lately but always struck me as clearly only in the video business to fund his own habit as an addict. Persona-wise, kind of a toned down Fruity Slots.

Dishonourable mention: Nickslots. I’ll watch him if there’s no other new content, but grudgingly. Over-the-top and gaudy, an element of seeming to be in love with himself, has annoying habit of acting like he’s never seen a win over 50x before every time he gets one, even if it was three minutes after the last one.

Haha, best post today!

As for Nickslots, the thing that annoys me most with his shit is when he gets big wins and NEVER clicks to stop the countup.

Here he sits there from 2:15 to 5:10 on a 7 minute video waiting for it to count up, when it shows under how much he’s won.
Here’s another one, less than 5 minute video, where he wins at 20 seconds and it counts up and no more spins happen until 4 minutes into the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLd0_TX5HdY
He does this every single time, he never clicks it, and his videos become so tedious and boring to watch, you just have to skip through it or you fall asleep.

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If you take into account that Roshtein’s own money is only 5% of the original deposit, before the bonus is added (IE: 2000 deposit, 6000 bonus, Roshtein’s real deposit is 100 euros), and he has a max cashout of 500 euros, you can see how his 9200x win is as useless as it gets. End of the day he only gets 500 back, and that’s likely after quite a bit of 100 euro deposits. He might even be at a loss of a few hundred euros.
I explained everything about how fake Roshtein is in another thread here, you can go look at my answer there.

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ah well, way to kill the thread @Seedy goddamn

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That’s both weird and potentially as dangerous as it gets.

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Levskie101 wrote:

I read awesomex comment and thought oh this guy knows his stuff and made the most convincing argument I’ve seen to prove Roshtien isn’t what he says. Then I read the follow ups and I feel like a fool.

 

My 2 cents is that Rosh must be on at least a low max cashout. It simply doesn’t make sense for a casino to give him the deals he gets with no max cashout or max bet. In his latest deal he can even wager whilst buying bonuses lol. I’m afraid that’s shady as fuck as it’s proposed he has no max bet or max cash out attached to it which is ludicrous.

I bet you couldn’t handle reading my post about my intelligence. Nobody seems to be able to be told something like that without acting like a complete idiot after. It’s just the way of the world.

As for my knowledge about Roshtein, trust me, I’ve spent more time than most uncovering what he’s up to.

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Seedy wrote:

yes please give it a break lol i feel sorry for Snail as his topic has been completely derailed into the same old dispute over which side of the fence people sit on and after reading it all as judge and jury in the forum im going to settle this as no one has given any proof or evidence that casinos are rigged and to quote i think think it was JB “its way above our pay grade to really know what happens at the top!” Jesus i cant believe i just quoted JB and the sentence didn’t contain the word c**t  xD pahahah

There has been good arguments on either side and acceptance from both side about code and theories etc and I do tip my hat that it was had with a good amount of decent communication and not just a swearing match while just throwing shit at each other honestly i do wanna dish out the cookies lol ?

So in summary i rule this conversation a

 

DRAW!!!

Fucks sake @Seedy what’s this sentrist crap? Pick a side dude! lol

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argyl53 wrote:

How can I respond to that? I’m not Evolution. All I can tell you is all these game providers who are licensed in the UK are subject to very strict regulation, inspections and auditing. If they’ve voided a win because of a malfunction, come inspection time they might well be asked to show what the technical problem was and their records of the event and what they did to mitigate the risk. Game providers have to be able to show the exact code they had deployed in production on any given day or time, or their records of every bet and outcome. Honestly, if some of you could see the kind of scrutiny that’s involved in industries like gambling and finance, you would understand. It’s not an afterthought, it’s something that’s very bureaucratic, expensive and hard to keep on top of. To me, the idea that these companies are falsifying records en masse and yet there’s never once been a disgruntled former employee blowing the whistle and going “look, I can tell you they’re making up bet and outcome records for the auditors because I was asked to work on the code to do it” is inconceivable. I can tell you in my industry if that kind of thing was happening, we wouldn’t last a day without someone breaking the silence on it.

 

Well it happens in all other areas, so I wouldnt exclude it from gambling either. Like specially those weirdass games from the curacao only companies, for example. The ones that don’t provide netent, BTG, playngo etc, none of the mainstream games. The ones who offer only crap, unknown games. But I suppose those are already viewed as cowboys in the industry.

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argyl53 wrote:

Note that I’ve never said it’s not “theoretically possible” for slots to be rigged, anything is “theoretically possible” so long as the world would look exactly the same in every way whether it was true or not. What I have said is there’s no evidence this grand-scale conspiracy involving affiliates, casinos, game providers, game platforms, legal regulatory bodies and auditing inspectors is actually happening, and a lot of evidence it isn’t.

Fair enough.
On a side note, the one casino I like that I know for a fact doesn’t give streamers any more edge than the usual 80% bonus is Casumo. There it doesn’t matter if you’re a streamer, you get the 80% bonus up to 240, and you get a max bet of €5 until wagering is completed. They don’t budge on this for anyone. This is why I prefer casumo over all the other ones. That and the game selection.

But again, should they rig things for anyone, I wouldn’t know about it.

As mentioned previously (which nobody mentioned), evolution gaming is someone I will never trust. There are so many cases of shit there. Over the last couple of weeks I’ve seen tons of events where people get their bets voided on the monopoly wheel as soon as the wheel stops, for no reason other than evolution triggering a popup saying “bets voided”. Any response to this?

 

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