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Dune2000 wrote:

Haz40 wrote:

I think it’s a problem which will never go away. There will always be people out there like that. Most are just jealous. I was amazed when he said about death threats. I know i wouldn’t be able to keep calm. Fortunately it’s only the minority who are like this though.

I told him I would kill him if I didn’t win one of the draws.    To be honest I am not optimistic, not least as I haven’t signed up to any ?

Well I won a draw, but turned out I had signed up through another streamer on that site. So never say never lol

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Rbreen91 wrote:

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You’ve been hitting the glass barbecue pretty hard.

nobody is saying that corruption doesn’t exist.

 

Someone just said player corruption doesn’t exist, and many argue that it only exists in 3rd world 3rd division leagues.

Alphadog wrote:

Rbreen91 wrote:

Nobody loses a 4-0 lead in the champions league. It just doesn’t happen. If you actually believe that a team can dominate and win 4-0, and then lose 6-1 3 weeks after, you should think about this again. Have you seen the football leaks documents btw? You should have a look when you have time.

 

This is the worst example to be honest, because a team like Barca are completely capable of demolishing any team on the planet on the right night.

and I’d also like to know what you think what kind of dirt you’d have to have on a team like PSG for them to throw a game?

Money isn’t a viable option in this case, I don’t reckon you can offer enough money to a club who have spent hundreds and hundreds of millions to attempt to win the Champions League. That’s the only reason they spend that money, they’re not gonna bow out on purpose.

He gives examples of alleged corruption but backs it up once again as people have  in other threads with no proof. Saying Google it is not proof. And all the football corruption he alleged Allardyce etc are not for match fixing but transfers and bungs for picking venues of world cups. To say Chelsea/PSG are throwing matches is absolutely the worst analogy. There is absolutely no motivation for them to do so financially. Prem teams get knocked out of cups by lower league teams every year. Is that corruption. Now if he said some Serbian third tear team was match fixing and had proof it would be alot more believable.

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Dune2000 wrote:

Hard to find a sport where there isn’t corruption, where there’s sport there is gambling, and where there’s gambling there’s corruption – anyone who disputes that has their head in the sand

Exactly. That’s what I’m trying to point out in this thread 🙂

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Dune2000 wrote:

of the 22 players won their bets

I’m implying UEFA and FIFA had rigged it through match officials. Shouldn’t be hard to see.
Did you know the match official in the world cup who ruled against Italy all the time was later convicted for drug trafficing in the US? And then released very early, shortly after the FIFA vice president was charged with corruption and match fixing by the FBI?
He clearly snitched on the vice president to get out.
But by all means, believe what you want. It’s pretty damn obvious.

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If you can’t see that this is match fixing, you’re blind, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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Oh, and let’s not forget this one:

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He gives examples of alleged corruption but backs it up once again as people have  in other threads with no proof. Saying Google it is not proof. And all the football corruption he alleged Allardyce etc are not for match fixing but transfers and bungs for picking venues of world cups. To say Chelsea/PSG are throwing matches is absolutely the worst analogy. There is absolutely no motivation for them to do so financially. Prem teams get knocked out of cups by lower league teams every year. Is that corruption. Now if he said some Serbian third tear team was match fixing and had proof it would be alot more believable.

World Cup 2002

Bruce Grobbelaar, Hans Segers & John Fashanu were charged with max fixing in the 90s.

In 1964, the great British football betting scandal of the 1960s was uncovered. A betting ring organized by Jimmy Gauld and involving several Football League players had been fixing matches. The most famous incident involved three Sheffield Wednesday players, including two England international players, who were subsequently banned from football for life and imprisoned after it was discovered they had bet against their team winning in a match against Ipswich Town. A similar scandal had occurred in 1915.
1980 Italian football scandal (“Totonero”): In May 1980, the largest match fixing scandal in the history of Italian football was uncovered by Italian Guardia di Finanza, after the spalling of two Roman shopkeepers, Alvaro Trinca and Massimo Cruciani, who declared that some Italian football players sold the football-matches for money; implicating, among others, AC Milan and Lazio. Teams were suspected of rigging games by selecting favorable referees, and even superstar Italian World Cup team goalkeeper Enrico Albertosi and future 1982 FIFA World Cup winner Paolo Rossi banned with betting on football games. Both clubs were forcibly relegated to Serie B and Milan’s president, Felice Colombo, received a life ban.
In 1981, a mob of an estimated 500 people took over the pitch during a Panionios F.C. practice amid accusations that team trainer Lakis Petropoulos helped fix a match against P.A.S. Korinthos that resulted in a 0–0 draw. Police assisted Petropoulos to safety.
During the 1982 FIFA World Cup, Germany and Austria played a game on 25 June known as the Disgrace of Gijón due to accusations that both clubs fixed the match.
In 1986, the Yugoslavian Football Association ruled that the first round playoffs of the Yugoslav First League had to be re-played because accusations of match fixing were being made against several teams by the press. Twelve of the league’s 18 teams were penalized. A court later dismissed the penalties against the clubs.
In February 1999 a Malaysian-based betting syndicate was caught attempting to install a remote-control device to sabotage the floodlights at FA Premier League team Charlton Athletic’s ground with the aid of a corrupt security officer. If the match had been abandoned after half-time, then the result and bets would have stood. Subsequent investigations showed that the gang had been responsible for previously unsuspected “floodlight failures” at West Ham’s ground in November 1997, and again a month later at Crystal Palace’s ground during a home match of Palace’s groundsharing tenant Wimbledon.
The Italian Football Federation said in October 2000 it had found eight players guilty of match-fixing. Three were from Serie A side Atalanta and the other five played for Serie B side Pistoiese. The players were Giacomo Banchelli, Cristiano Doni and Sebastiano Siviglia (all Atalanta) and Alfredo Aglietti, Massimiliano Allegri, Daniele Amerini, Gianluca Lillo and Girolamo Bizzarri (all Pistoiese). The charges related to an Italian Cup first round tie between the two sides in Bergamo on August 20, 2000 which ended 1–1. Atalanta scored at the end of the first half and Pistoiese equalised three minutes from full-time. Atalanta qualified for the second round. Snai, which organises betting on Italian football, said later it had registered suspiciously heavy betting on the result and many of the bets were for a 1–0 halftime score and a full-time score of 1–1.
In 2004, Portuguese Police launched the operation Apito Dourado and named several Portuguese club presidents and football personalities as suspects of match fixing, including FC Porto’s chairman Pinto da Costa. Some of the wiretaps used as proof, deemed unusable in court, can now be found on YouTube.
In June 2004 in South Africa, thirty-three people (including nineteen referees, club officials, a match commissioner and an official of the South African Football Association) were arrested on match-fixing charges.
In the summer of 2004, Betfair provided evidence of race fixing to City of London Police that led to the arrest of jockey Kieren Fallon and fifteen others on race fixing charges. On 7 December 2007 the judge in the case ordered the jury to find Fallon not guilty on all charges.
2005 Bundesliga scandal: In January 2005, the German Football Association (DFB) and German prosecutors launched separate probes into charges that referee Robert Hoyzer bet on and fixed several matches that he worked, including a German Cup tie. Hoyzer later admitted to the allegations; it has been reported that he was involved with Croat gambling syndicates. He also implicated other referees and players in the match fixing scheme. The first arrests in the Hoyzer investigation were made on January 28 in Berlin, and Hoyzer himself was arrested on February 12 after new evidence apparently emerged to suggest that he had been involved in fixing more matches than he had admitted to. Hoyzer has been banned for life from football by the DFB. On March 10, a second referee, Dominik Marks, was arrested after being implicated in the scheme by Hoyzer. Still later (March 24), it was reported that Hoyzer had told investigators that the gambling ring he was involved with had access to UEFA’s referee assignments for international matches and Champions League and UEFA Cup fixtures several days before UEFA publicly announced them. Ultimately, Hoyzer was sentenced to serve 2 years and 5 months in prison.
In July 2005, Italian Serie B champions Genoa was placed last in the division by the sporting justice, and therefore condemned to relegation in Serie C1, after it was revealed that they bribed their opponents in the final match of the season, Venezia to throw the match. His president Enrico Preziozi was banned for five years after being guilty by the sporting justice. Genoa won the match 3–2 and had apparently secured promotion to Serie A.
Brazilian football match-fixing scandal: In September 2005, a Brazilian magazine revealed that two football referees, Edílson Pereira de Carvalho (a member of FIFA’s referee staff) and Paulo José Danelon, had accepted bribes to fix matches. Soon afterwards, sport authorities ordered the replaying of 11 matches in the country’s top competition, the Campeonato Brasileiro, that had been worked by Edílson. Both referees have been banned for life from football and face possible criminal charges. Brazilian supporters have taken to shout “Edílson” at a referee who they consider to have made a bad call against their team, in a reference to the scandal.
2008 The Fix: Book by Declan Hill alleges that in the 2006 World Cup, the group game between Ghana and Italy, the round-of-16 game between Ghana and Brazil, and the Italy-Ukraine quarter-final were all fixed by Asian gambling syndicates to whom the final scores were known in advance. The German Football Federation (DFB) and German Football League (DFL) looked into claims made in a Der Spiegel interview with Hill that two Bundesliga matches were fixed by William Bee Wah Lim a fugitive with a 2004 conviction for match-fixing.
2008: On October 1, it was reported that a Spanish judge who headed an investigation against Russian Mafia figures uncovered information alleging that the mobsters may have attempted to fix the 2007–08 UEFA Cup semi-final between eventual champion Zenit St. Petersburg and Bayern Munich. Both clubs denied any knowledge of the alleged scheme. Prosecutors in the German state of Bavaria, home to Bayern, later announced that they did not have enough evidence to justify a full investigation.
2008: On October 4, suspicious online betting on the game between Norwich City and Derby County led some to question the validity of the Football League match. Gamblers in Asia were said to have placed a large amount of money down during halftime, which raised concerns over the outcome. The inquiry by The Football Association found no evidence that would suggest the match was fixed. Derby County ended up winning the match 2–1.
In November 2009, German police arrested 17 people on suspicion of fixing at least 200 soccer matches in 9 countries. Among the suspected games were those from the top leagues of Austria, Bosnia, Croatia, Hungary, Slovenia, and Turkey, and games from the second highest leagues of Belgium, Germany, and Switzerland. Three contests from the Champions League were under investigation, and 12 from the Europa League.
In June 2011, trials started for people allegedly involved in fixing Finnish football matches. One team, Tampere United was indefinitely suspended from Finnish football for accepting payments from a person known for match-fixing.
In July 2011, As part of a major match-fixing investigation by authorities in Turkey, nearly 60 people suspected to be involved with fixing games were detained by İstanbul Police Department Organized Crime Control Bureau and then arrested by the court. The case did not come to a conclusion yet and the teams that are being accused of match-fixing are participating in the Turkish league currently.
The Match fixing investigations of Norwegian Second Division saw Norway and Sweden arresting individuals in 2012, including players of Follo FK and Asker Fotball.
Operation VETO, a Europol investigation announced in 2013 that identified 380 fixed association football matches in 15 countries.
In 2013 Lebanese match fixing scandal 22 Lebanese footballers were involved which led to a lifetime ban for Ramez Dayoub.
In December 2013, six people in Britain, including Blackburn forward DJ Campbell, were arrested for allegedly fixing football games. The arrests were made by the National Crime Agency after release of a report from FederBet, a Brussels-based gambling watchdog, an organization created by the online bookmakers to watch the flow of bets across Europe.
In 2016, Zimbabwe Football Association (ZIFA) president Phillip Chiyangwa gave a news conference where he accused the Zimbabwe national football team of fixing matches during the African Nations Championship in January. ZIFA executive committee member Edzai Kasinauyo was suspended for allegedly helping fix an upcoming match against Swaziland. Callisto Pasuwa, who was the head coach of Zimbabwe national team, was one of the whistleblowers.

There are still TONS of examples I haven’t listed.

Tell me again how there’s no corruption in football..?

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eejit101 wrote:

@awesomeX id love to hear that. As they are the biggest brand in Europe for casino. They are a huge company, they have about 3,000 staff here.

@MrB Im not calling you a liar. I didnt list 888 for a reason. Ive heard some questionable things in the past, but recently they have been getting good press for buying a rival firm and paying out their players on bets the other firm voided. I know of the retained access to accounts after banning, and what i know of this is it wasnt intentional. Doesnt forgive them for it, and the 8mil fine was deserved. But casino systems are damn hard to get right. Doesnt validate it but its nice to be nice where you can.

Just let me know how to get in touch with you, and we can arrange a conversation.

Rbreen91 wrote:

Nobody loses a 4-0 lead in the champions league. It just doesn’t happen. If you actually believe that a team can dominate and win 4-0, and then lose 6-1 3 weeks after, you should think about this again. Have you seen the football leaks documents btw? You should have a look when you have time.

 

This is the worst example to be honest, because a team like Barca are completely capable of demolishing any team on the planet on the right night.

and I’d also like to know what you think what kind of dirt you’d have to have on a team like PSG for them to throw a game?

Money isn’t a viable option in this case, I don’t reckon you can offer enough money to a club who have spent hundreds and hundreds of millions to attempt to win the Champions League. That’s the only reason they spend that money, they’re not gonna bow out on purpose.

What if the owners of PSG wanted Neymar so much that they threw the game in order to get him?
There is tons of dirt generally on PSG. PSG and Man City have broken the Financial Fair Play rules, but somehow it seems like FIFA/UEFA drags out the process of finding punishments for them. It all just seems to be watered down and dragged out so long that there’s not gonna be any real consequences.

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eejit101 wrote:

awesomex wrote:

eejit101 wrote:

There is evidence of chefs spitting in food, prostitutes having STDs, bankers with bonsues, plasteres doing shit work, website designed making a crap one, there is flaws in every world in every industry.

Problem is in Gaming people see 1 and assume its the same everywhere. It isnt. Otherwise i wouldnt gamble.

So which casinos do you recommend, and which casinos would you stay away from? And do you recommend staying away from any products they provide?

Videoslots, Casumo, bet365, Mr Green, Pokerstars, Grosvenor, Betvictor, CasinoHeroes, Betsson/Betsafe, Rizk/Guts of the top of my head are all perfect.

This list has hundreds of other i could add, most of which are ok.

As your in the UK, nearly all UKGC sites handle it all quite well. The issue comes when you venture further out to avoid gamban, or similar, and end up on unregulated sites or curacao sites by untrustable people.

Betsson has a huge problem that makes me not play there: If you have started a withdrawal, and you then go to do a deposit, cancelling a withdrawal comes up along with the deposit methods. This is the most despicable thing I know, and I guarantee Betsson can’t be trusted. I have tons of documentation to prove they can’t be trusted as well.
Therefore you can’t trust MrSmith or Betsafe either.

If you’re ever interested in talking about this, I’m willing to share what I know with you in a 1 on 1 chat/call.

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NudePicsForFreeSpins wrote:

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lol what

I saw that on some previous replies too. Might be a bug, or someone clicked the report button instead of the quote/reply button. I’d imagine the report button triggers a “are you sure” button or something, but it might not.

As for your question, why not? It’s a good discussion to have.

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eejit101 wrote:

There is evidence of chefs spitting in food, prostitutes having STDs, bankers with bonsues, plasteres doing shit work, website designed making a crap one, there is flaws in every world in every industry.

Problem is in Gaming people see 1 and assume its the same everywhere. It isnt. Otherwise i wouldnt gamble.

So which casinos do you recommend, and which casinos would you stay away from? And do you recommend staying away from any products they provide?

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eejit101 wrote:

awesomex wrote:

My point is that if you add this all up it’s incredibly naive to say there’s no corruption

About the slots, I’m not saying there’s 100% proof the streamers have rigged versions of the slots, I’m saying there’s a possibility some of them do. Nobody can disprove this. However, I believe at least some of them are legit and play the same way you and I do.

As for live games, they’re always rigged in one way or another; Monopoly wheel: You land 2 rolls, tons of buildings on the last street. 4 rolls, not that many buildings. Also, the fact the “flapper” is able to make you bounce back to the previous spot, acting like a trampoline.. I don’t see how that little rubber thing can generate enough force on a wheel that heavy to actually do that. Suppose it could be possible. But the other video shows the other wheel game having a malfunction that breaks the spin, so I wouldn’t rule out that there’s something dodgy there.

Eejit said evolution operate on a % value of the win/loss difference or whatever. This gives them incentive to cheat if they can get away with it.

The problem for an online casino with live games is that live games like blackjack can be beat by the player, unless the company rigs the game. Which evolution gaming actually does too. I know they used to remove an unknown amount of face cards in blackjack. Now they stop the deck when they get to the marker, instead of going through all of it. Real blackjack rules are to use 6 full decks of cards, and deal through all of it. Something they don’t do, cus you then you could count cards and up your own odds.

Cancelling withdrawals over and over again, and long verification checks – Think we all agree this is some bullshit the casinos shouldn’t be allowed to do, and this is the biggest case for saying there’s fraud in the online casino industry.

Wherever there’s a huge amount of money involved, there’s gonna be dishonesty by those who stand to gain, or possibly lose a lot on it.

Hate to argue this, but i have to as some of this is factually wrong.

Blackjack – No blackjack game deals through the FULL deck of cards. There is always approx 30-60 cards left at the end. Every casino in the world uses this system, as otherwise players know what cards are left, also once the deck runs out if you are midway through a hand what then? This, im sorry, is just all kinds of wrong. 100% wrong.a

Cancelling withdrawals – Yup. 100% accurate on some cases. Some times its legit, but sometimes its casinos messing with you. For big licenced casinos its usually the former but it can feel like its on purpose.

Slots – Again, sorry, but 100% inaccurate. No streamer can play a different version of this game to someone else. Imagine your playing Halo on Xbox. But you have a version where your gun shoots twice as fast as everyone else. But you play online. And downloaded the game from xBox live. How easy do you think this would be? Its impossible. The game round is unable to be messed with. IF it could I would be a fucking millionaire within 5 minutes. And streamers would take the piss and be betting huge off stream on every casino possible. The casino is just a portal to the game, controlling the balance, payments and bonuses. The game itsself is seperate. You can hack your Xbox to play illegal movies, but you cant hack Forza to drive a spaceship.

Live casino – The blackjack thing was rigged. But evolution isnt rigging monopoly. Have you seen the RTP on the numbers? Betting on 5 is 91% RTP. They dont need to rig it. This game paid out almost 2mil in a spin once, 2mil! And its still profitable. The dice roll is live feed, and i have seen it, the dice and changed hourly and checked by regulators on site and off, same as casinos. Its the same rules. But conspiracy theories will always maintain.

As for the wheel it has to be motorised partly its heavy. But thats to assist in a spin, not to control the outcome.

Evolution has no need to cheat. They make money on all games all the time. They are the most profitable company by far in gaming.

There is no need to cheat for any gambling company, yet many do it. You just said they do with cancelling withdrawals, which there is no need to do. Yet they do it. If it’s possible to cheat, someone will cheat.

You sound very reasonable Eejit, so please explain to me why billionaires cheat with a few million to get their way, when they can reach their goal anyway, while still making money off of it?

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Green2711 wrote:

awesomex wrote:

thatfamousjimmy wrote:

awesomex wrote:

My point is that if you add this all up it’s incredibly naive to say there’s no corruption

About the slots, I’m not saying there’s 100% proof the streamers have rigged versions of the slots, I’m saying there’s a possibility some of them do. Nobody can disprove this. However, I believe at least some of them are legit and play the same way you and I do.

As for live games, they’re always rigged in one way or another; Monopoly wheel: You land 2 rolls, tons of buildings on the last street. 4 rolls, not that many buildings. Also, the fact the “flapper” is able to make you bounce back to the previous spot, acting like a trampoline.. I don’t see how that little rubber thing can generate enough force on a wheel that heavy to actually do that. Suppose it could be possible. But the other video shows the other wheel game having a malfunction that breaks the spin, so I wouldn’t rule out that there’s something dodgy there.

Eejit said evolution operate on a % value of the win/loss difference or whatever. This gives them incentive to cheat if they can get away with it.

The problem for an online casino with live games is that live games like blackjack can be beat by the player, unless the company rigs the game. Which evolution gaming actually does too. I know they used to remove an unknown amount of face cards in blackjack. Now they stop the deck when they get to the marker, instead of going through all of it. Real blackjack rules are to use 6 full decks of cards, and deal through all of it. Something they don’t do, cus you then you could count cards and up your own odds.

Cancelling withdrawals over and over again, and long verification checks – Think we all agree this is some bullshit the casinos shouldn’t be allowed to do, and this is the biggest case for saying there’s fraud in the online casino industry.

Here are just some examples of obvious corruption in sports at the highest level: -Chelsea vs Barcelona (When the Norwegian ref won the game for barcelona. Back when Drogba and Ballack played for Chelsea) -PSG vs Barcelona (PSG wins 4-0 at home, loses 6-1 away, just enough to put Barcelona through) -Everything reported in the millions of documents by “football leaks”.
-2002 World Cup referees letting Korea and Japan use martial arts on the pitch without getting punished.
-Holyfield’s olympic run in boxing.
-Holyfield when asked who he thought was gonna win between Mayweather and Pacquiao: “Whoever they decided is gonna win, will win”.

Wherever there’s a huge amount of money involved, there’s gonna be dishonesty by those who stand to gain, or possibly lose a lot on it.

How the hell is the PSG vs Barca obvious corruption?? Are we really meant to believe that the whole team, squad, managers, background staff of both teams contrived to make the score 4-0 then 6-1? And for them all to agree to it and not say anything?? Wtf!! I’ve agreed with some of the stuff you’ve said but some of your 100% obvious stuff really isn’t at all!

Nobody loses a 4-0 lead in the champions league. It just doesn’t happen. If you actually believe that a team can dominate and win 4-0, and then lose 6-1 3 weeks after, you should think about this again.
Have you seen the football leaks documents btw? You should have a look when you have time.

Christ If that’s all the evidence needed then it’s become clear to me now that Liverpool didn’t really win the CL in 2005, no team gets a 3-0 lead in a CL final only to go on and lose the match. It makes sense now because like you said there’s corruption in the Turkish league and it was held in Istanbul, we’ve cracked this one mate, shall I get on the phone to Fifa or do you want to do it? I’m afraid my tin foil hat might mess with my phones signal.

Think about it man. If there’s cold hard evidence that the previous and current leaders of the biggest authority in worldwide football are corrupt, do you really think there’s no corruption in the games?

Here, lemme list some corruption cases for you:
-Sam Allardyce was “forced to resign” as England manager.
-Sepp Blatter was removed from the FIFA office.
-CONCACAF President Jeffrey Webb arrested.
– FIFA Executive Committee members Eduardo Li of the Costa Rican Football Federation and Eugenio Figueredo, formerly of the Uruguayan Football Association was arrested
-CONMEBOL President Nicolás Leoz was arrested
-former CONMEBOL President Nicolás Leoz was arrested
-former CONCACAF president Jack Warner’s son Daryll
-Jack Warner and marketing executive Alejandro Burzaco.
-Following Allardyce’s departure, The Daily Telegraph published further details of much wider-reaching corruption through English club football, claiming that eight Premier Leaguemanagers accepted “bungs” for player transfers.
-Barnsley assistant manager Tommy Wright had taken a £5000 “bung” in order to arrange for the club to purchase part-owned players from a fictitious Far East firm.
-Queens Park Rangers manager Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink had agreed to become an ambassador for a fictitious Far East sports company involved in third-party ownership of players in exchange for £55,000, subsequently also discussing potential tax avoidance involving his bank account in the Netherlands.
-Leeds United chairman Massimo Cellino was shown on video agreeing to sell 20% of the club in order to work around third-party player ownership rules.

I mean, I can go on and on. There’s so insanely much corruption in football, so believing games that have insanely perfect outcomes can’t be rigged is beyond stupid.

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thatfamousjimmy wrote:

awesomex wrote:

thatfamousjimmy wrote:

awesomex wrote:

My point is that if you add this all up it’s incredibly naive to say there’s no corruption

About the slots, I’m not saying there’s 100% proof the streamers have rigged versions of the slots, I’m saying there’s a possibility some of them do. Nobody can disprove this. However, I believe at least some of them are legit and play the same way you and I do.

As for live games, they’re always rigged in one way or another; Monopoly wheel: You land 2 rolls, tons of buildings on the last street. 4 rolls, not that many buildings. Also, the fact the “flapper” is able to make you bounce back to the previous spot, acting like a trampoline.. I don’t see how that little rubber thing can generate enough force on a wheel that heavy to actually do that. Suppose it could be possible. But the other video shows the other wheel game having a malfunction that breaks the spin, so I wouldn’t rule out that there’s something dodgy there.

Eejit said evolution operate on a % value of the win/loss difference or whatever. This gives them incentive to cheat if they can get away with it.

The problem for an online casino with live games is that live games like blackjack can be beat by the player, unless the company rigs the game. Which evolution gaming actually does too. I know they used to remove an unknown amount of face cards in blackjack. Now they stop the deck when they get to the marker, instead of going through all of it. Real blackjack rules are to use 6 full decks of cards, and deal through all of it. Something they don’t do, cus you then you could count cards and up your own odds.

Cancelling withdrawals over and over again, and long verification checks – Think we all agree this is some bullshit the casinos shouldn’t be allowed to do, and this is the biggest case for saying there’s fraud in the online casino industry.

Here are just some examples of obvious corruption in sports at the highest level: -Chelsea vs Barcelona (When the Norwegian ref won the game for barcelona. Back when Drogba and Ballack played for Chelsea) -PSG vs Barcelona (PSG wins 4-0 at home, loses 6-1 away, just enough to put Barcelona through) -Everything reported in the millions of documents by “football leaks”.
-2002 World Cup referees letting Korea and Japan use martial arts on the pitch without getting punished.
-Holyfield’s olympic run in boxing.
-Holyfield when asked who he thought was gonna win between Mayweather and Pacquiao: “Whoever they decided is gonna win, will win”.

Wherever there’s a huge amount of money involved, there’s gonna be dishonesty by those who stand to gain, or possibly lose a lot on it.

How the hell is the PSG vs Barca obvious corruption?? Are we really meant to believe that the whole team, squad, managers, background staff of both teams contrived to make the score 4-0 then 6-1? And for them all to agree to it and not say anything?? Wtf!! I’ve agreed with some of the stuff you’ve said but some of your 100% obvious stuff really isn’t at all!

Nobody loses a 4-0 lead in the champions league. It just doesn’t happen. If you actually believe that a team can dominate and win 4-0, and then lose 6-1 3 weeks after, you should think about this again.
Have you seen the football leaks documents btw? You should have a look when you have time.

You crack me up dude! That is football mate. There’s been loads of shocks over the years, even in the Champions league… remember Liverpool down 3-0 at half time against Milan?? A certain Leicester city winning the league at 5000/1 makes me believe that ANYTHING can happen in football. Or was that obvious corruption too?!?

But no I haven’t seen the football leaks documents. Got a link? Would be good to see some evidence of your crazy claims for once lol

Just google it. There are like 70 million documents.

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FIFA are supposed to stop the corruption. Meanwhile every FIFA president has to go due to being corrupt themselves. The highest governing body in football has been corrupt for decades, so it’s pretty damn naive to think only every single person on top is corrupt.

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