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Players have all the reason’s to be “skeptic” towards the approach of providers, casino’s and all that. Best example is they changed your favorite game without notice. Week in week out you bash your funds to finally realise some update tanked the RTP in general.
From that example (I’m assuming you’re talking about when Videoslots reduced their RTP on a number of games from four specific providers), I do agree with you. I have been very vocal on this forum on how morally incorrect that whole process change was, primarily due to the lack of communication surrounding it.
However, everything they did was lawful, and they did in fact make a small post in their blog to announce it. There is a huge difference between this example, and thinking that all online slots are compensated and not in fact random after all. They’re not even comparable.
I’d get some guidance on this one over at CasinoMeister, @Jazzee.
Basically, on these games, a portion of the RTP is dedicated to this feature build. By removing the slots from play whilst you have progress there, they essentially owe you money. It won’t be a lot, as they could only refund you for the % which contributed towards the end feature, but they certainly can’t remove it and pay you nothing.
Yep, as Xbob and Seyah said, the percentages are an accurate representation of the odds. The UKGC are quite clear on not misleading customers when probabilities are shown in this way!
2They would pull your pants down and fuck you
Literally this ?
Never do a bonus hunt with bonus funds.
Nice one @argyl53. Definitely a win. I think we’ve all been there.
I’ve not posted yet, but I will, but I’m on Gamstop for a year, as of two months ago! Needed a break.
Bio I totally get the random nature of slots, the losing streaks are always more evident then the run of big wins as well, probably because the happen far more regular, but that is the nature of the beast. I do genuinley believe in good fortune coming in waves and when on a bad run it seems ever ending. This is more gambling as a whole though. I went from the 2nd week of Jan until Cheltenham came round on a terrible run of slots, horses, football. Basically anything I gambled on just seemed dead money ( barring the odd horse win ) Then Cheltenham came round and my studying and knowledge came through which catapulted me on a crazy run of success. Not only did I have the best Cheltenham ever, but all of a sudden I was hitting anything and everything, which also happened with a great slot / roulette run I went on. I cashed out my success and now it seems I am back on a cold run, I appreciate this is totally random but I used to play Poker as well and after a withdrawal other players would find miracle cards against you. The coincedences are pretty unfortunate , but like we all know it isjust a case of balancing out the rough with the smooth. Bandit himself proved a good win can happen after a nice withdrawal with his JJ 100k win after cleaning the casino out for 280 ish beforehand.
I get that completely, and I’ve had very similar experiences. I think it’s more down to how we notice trends as humans, and obviously a win gives us more opportunities to result in further, compound wins.
In my gambling ‘career’ so to speak, I’ve had five hot streaks that are very distinctive for me, where I felt like I couldn’t possibly lose. Unfortunately they always, always have a bitter end eventually!
Ah come’on. Slots need to wager a certain amount to be paying out in the first place. Yes casino’s and providers do settle new games on the playing floor with some pre-set balance as you might call it. But they wont be doing the opposite and that is losing money.
Pish. Casinos can lose on games over shorter periods. Over the life span of the game though, they’ll be up.
Breeno is right.
I really don’t understand why people struggle so much with this concept.
Agreed, there should be a minimum win of even 50x for the build, I think 100x is fairer. Hearts as extra wild isn’t the greastest incentive to build when a win isn’t guaranteed.
I agree this would be good, but for that to happen they’d have to take the RTP from somewhere else, e.g. Making the hearts harder to land. It all works out the same in the end!
for sure the machines put you on a shit list after cashout, yeah RNG but i think there is multiple tears and you do get RNG but if you’ve be put on the shit tear your fuked. on paddy power they got a new pragmatic game pirates gold i put 100’s of spins in on multiple different steaks and 2 totally dead bonuses a 2x and a 0x and the base never really payed more than 2x on the micro wins
There are no tiers. Random is random, and it’s the same for everyone at all times, win or lose.
What would happen if you had a brand new slot released with a max bonus payout of 100,000x and you were the first person to ever play the slot,could you hit that bonus on the first spin of the game playing £1 a spin or would the slot have to take in £100,000 first.
You’d have the same odds of hitting it on the very first spin as you would on the billionth spin. You could also win it ten times in a row.
Unlikely af, but there is nothing engineered to prevent that from happening.
Games can be terrible after a cashout. It’s like they know and they want the money back. I’m sure bio will agree ??
Totes, it’s all that mad ting AI. I’m so woke now.
I’m just exciting because it’s gonna kick off! Bring back JB and Mr Bitch! We need a random war.
JB V Bio
Mr Bitch v Argyl.
Fight to the death.
?? can feel the forum warming up for us to go in raw.
1You know Bandit’s latest video is a perfect example of how programmed that slot is, to see the initial anticipation of going 10x multiplier to stall right after that. This not just happens with Lil devil, but also extra chilli or any BTG based game that must have it from a big multiplier.
I think its just another progressive. Ya’ll say it sooooo random well random up to a point. Did you know how many losses it would take for the bandit to finally hit the gamble top on rheel king? I mean for every gamble loss, the lost money is in all technical details put into the gamble sub-game.
There’s a million ways to put down how a slot work, in my books it’s still money in vs money out. There’s no slot being put live actually that would cause the casino to make a loss on long term. They dont exist. They all exist because they make a guaranteed profit. The mathematics make sure of that.
I’ve seen a few cases myself; where i was simply limited to win beyond 22k. It kept me ‘wagering’ for like a good hour at least while pounding 20 a spin, it did’nt let me lose, it did’nt let me win too much either. It kind of kept me to that level, as ive seen that happen on several casino’s. It’s security kicking in.
Previous year ive won 65k in total. It could have bin way more, but i became kind of scared that the casino would not pay out and all that, so i kind of kept it cool. To my understanding i was simply hitting a bug in a game. Play long enough with a game and you’ll understand its weak points at some level. Why do you think bandit spend(ed) 12 hours on just rheel king alone. I mean that is just hardcore. But that mentality brought him alot of profit. Just dont be like him. You dont have the bankroll to take such losses.
Been a long time since we’ve had the old pre-determined versus random debate, aye fellas?
To put it simply, you’re wrong. There’s no “in my books it’s x”, this isn’t something that you can have an opinion on, it’s simply not how they work. They’re random.
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