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I believe you can negotiate with them an increased withdrawal limit (or no limit) – it’s in their T&Cs!
I’ve also read that loyalty members have no limit, so it’s worth checking that one with them as surely you qualify for that.
Seems very odd for such a highly rated to casino to have such a restrictive withdrawal limit.
What an incredible win, and an unbelievable run you’ve had over the past month or so!
Take a break, Steve. Take a break, and spend the money on something big! New house? Long-term investment? Whatever you choose, just enjoy it. 🙂
1Definitely a motor why would a engineer need to go around the back if a flapper had broke which can see isnt? if it was a free wheel you would be able to stop it by hand.
Actually at 4:33 in that video he does stop it by hand. He then proceeds to mess around with the flapper from the rear for the next few minutes, until resuming play following that.
I can’t say for sure what went on here, however I would have to assume the flapper contributes enough force, counter-acting on the wheel, to slow down the spin much faster than if the flapper was broken and loose. So it would make sense in this video that it was the flapper that was broken, fixed, and then play resumed. Loving the conspiracies as always though guys.
I’d be on max stake most prob.  It’s Imminent
or is it……..
Nope, the odds don’t increase for each bee. Could land on any bee, could be another 500 yet. Unlikely at 3% per bee (if those figures are correct) but certainly possible!
Hey. Jumping in.
I spoke to Push last week, just to ask some questions on this game.
It is 100% planned for people to try and take advantage in this way. The game is set up in 2 stage…
Stage 1 – Hive building. The RTP in this section of the base game and bonuses are a usual 97% or approximate. The game plays as normal, and this is a true reflection of the base game.
Stage 2 – Max Hive. The RTP of the base game drastically lowers. That’s not to say you cant still hit a good win, or a good chest, but as you can see from the bandits videos, he drops only 300x stake at the most on 20p when having approx 2,500 spins to max out the hive. Then all of a sudden he only has 20 bees and is 1.2k down at 4 quid stake. the game mechanics are designed this way on purpose.
Mathematically – The game can be beaten, just, and it depends on when you raise the stakes. Bandit does this a bit randomly, buthe almost sticks to a plan. The game pays out as follows…
Odds on hitting swarm from a single bee drop – 3.3%
Average Stake return per swarm bonus -275x
So from this maths you know when to raise the stakes to guarantee a profit. Say you trigger the max hive and it cost you 40quid to build the hive. You start at £1 stake. Once you are down 150x from starting balance, you increase to 2£. then once down 150x again you keep raising the stakes up.
As long as you trigger before your betting 200£ a spin… your in profit.
Huge variance way of playing but 99% of the time you will profit, and 1% of the time you will lose your hose/wife/legs.
Interesting info, thanks eejit!
However, I would strongly recommend that people don’t do this. This is similar to the Martingale “system” on roulette, where you double your bet within the return range until you hit. As long as you don’t run out of money, and you don’t hit the table limit, and you increase by more double your bet (as red/black is not 50/50) then you will always win. HOWEVER they are serious caveats, and in the real world, it’s just not feasible, and incredibly dangerous. I’ve seen 15 reds in a row before. Imagine betting on black from the first one.
Anyway, my point is, this is very similar. You could not hit the swarm until your 200th bee, technically. And if you’re increasing your bet every 150x – well, you do the math. Not only this, but the average at 275x is over a huuuuuge amount of games. The variance could result in a 50x win, or even a 1000x win. So <b>by no means are you guaranteed to profit using this method.</b>
Thanks for playing my requests, Steve! Sorry Donuts dicked you as always, but at least you had a nice base win 😉
Yeah Light Blocks is a bit bizarre but I find it really exciting to watch once it gets going!
Donuts, Genie Jackpot Megaways, Light Blocks and Jammin Jars please!
I know you’ve played most of these fairly recently, but they’re really exciting to watch and you’re due a big hit on them eventually!
1I do find Reel King quite boring overall, but I still watch it all! Great video!
Steve, you summed it up perfectly for me at the end. I genuinely love Muse, but hate Uprising, so I can relate. 😉
Yeah this is completely normal guys, it’s an anti money laundering process. If you can prove your old card is no longer active then they will allow you to withdraw to your new one!
Fair play in admitting to that, appreciate you making this thread, Just Basics. I’m sure we’ve all felt like you at some point in the past.
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11Yep, it’ll save your progress on your account with that particular casino, don’t worry! 🙂
Just be careful, it can be a bitch to release the swarm, don’t be deceived by the max level!
So I do, somewhat, agree with Just Basics on this one. Bonus terms are often very ambiguous and certainly not obvious to the player (particularly new players who aren’t as aware of the bonus process). I believe this is something that needs to change, with more clarity and warning prior to the player depositing with the casino (e.g. staking above £2 etc.).
I completely agree with the casino’s choice to use wagering – it can’t just be seen as “free money” but rather an opportunity to wager more over a longer period of time in the hope of hitting a bonus or a bigger win. 20x to 35x feels reasonable to me. 50x certainly feels far too high, but no one is forcing you to use the bonus and accept the bonus terms.
Now what I absolutely do not agree with, and, in my opinion, is a genuinely corrupt and underhanded way of managing a bonus, is the “against the spirit of the bonus” terms. These are often written incredibly unclear in the terms and conditions, and left purposefully open to cover a number of different scenarios. What often happens is, the player may win a large amount from the bonus through large blackjack or roulette bets, and then when attempting to withdraw after going through full wagering, the casino then rejects the withdrawal on the basis of going “against the spirit of the bonus”. 888 are particularly well known in doing this, hence their inclusion on the rogue list with Casino Meister. If they don’t want people to place certain bets on blackjack, for example, then they should make this clear in the terms and conditions.
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