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My point is, you’ve fixated on one small line of my initial post which was only there to bolster the debate for Monopoly Live anyway. By my passing roulette comment, all I meant was, that in certain situations with certain dealers on certain wheels that they are theoretically able to land certain sections more often than others. On that basis, given the simplicity of the Monopoly Live wheel compared with the complexity of a roulette wheel, it is surely more than possible for sections to be targeted if they so choose. I have never once stated that croupiers in all casinos everywhere on all wheels are able to land specific numbers or sections whenever they please. It was a passing comment, and I didn’t intend for that to move the focus from Monopoly Live. Perhaps I should have been more clear!
You then added a small input to the Monopoly Live debate by stating they do what they do for game pace. I have never questioned why they spin how they spin – this whole thread is about how the way that they run the game is acceptable within regulation.
Anyone that knows me on here knows that I don’t need any convincing around how most casinos operate and whether it is lawful or not.
@Dynamik23 – I’m pretty sure you’ve missed the entire point of this thread bud. ?
Ill help out, let me ask Evolution for us, bear with me!
Awesome, thank you! 🙂
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London is supposed to be 38+ degrees, feeling like 43+ degrees – that’s just crazy hot.
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I can’t believe I’m going to say this, but I’m going to make the conspiracy theorists juicy here. @Winningbird, this sort of thing I’ve noticed too in the past. I used to play a lot of online live roulette, where I’d martingale single numbers after 35 losing spins. Every now and again it’d reject my bets on a particular spin and not even joking, it felt like 90% of the time that happened, my jackpot number came in.
Letsgiveitaspin had an interesting one a few weeks ago too. He was playing on Leo and went to play Monopoly Live, but the game wasn’t letting him in despite several attempts. A couple of minutes later he managed to get in, and it had just landed an 8x or 10x multiplier followed by 4 rolls. If he’d have got in, he’d have been it in. The bonus went for over 800x. You can find it on YouTube somewhere.
Purely coincidental, and a little bit of apophenia. But it’s funny how this stuff can feel to us from time to time.
Let me be real clear on my stance here – I don’t think reputable casinos or providers are rigged, but I can certainly relate to those who feel they’ve been personally victimised whilst playing. We remember painful coincidences more than when things are normal.
In regards to safe zones… I really like Steve’s idea before about Extra Chilli turning the losing slice that you land on into a winning slice for next time. This could then get reset once you take a bonus.
Saves dreadful runs of bad luck (eventually you will land it), and also makes it quite fun and unique.
Obviously this would impact on RTP, so maybe the bonus buy would have to increase in cost slightly, or some of the pays or potential wins may need to be reduced. But I think that’s a small price to pay for the safety net!
BTG take note!
100% this needs to be a rule that is enforced, and I do believe Seedy manages it. Remove any names/links, warn the member. If they do it again, ban.
It has to be – I am certain this isn’t the only person who has been impacted by selfish members.
1Good to see it’s not just me and we’re all on the same page on this one! I may inquire to the UKGC as to the regulation applied to Monopoly Live and their thoughts on some reform. Same goes for Dreamcatcher too, I guess.
Wow sucks that Just Basics is still banned lol. Agree with what you say but maybe its because the hosts don’t actually look at the wheel when they spin it? Used to play this loads as found it fun (and the buzz of a potential 10x 4 rolls kept me playing!) and used to really annoy me with their weak spins, I guess they do that to get as many new rounds in as possible.
I’m sure there is a profitable betting system to this game… just haven’t worked it out yet haha!
Yeah that’s the sort of buzz that keeps me playing really. It has potential, a very high possible win cap (however unlikely).
I know the hosts don’t look while they’re spinning it, but do they have a screen or mirror or indicator in front of them? I’m sure eejit or someone said they had something a while back, but maybe I’m wrong. I did ask one of the hosts on the live chat and they said there is nothing other than a screen showing the chat. So if that’s the case then I’m definitely a bit more comfortable about the whole thing.
Only watch monopoly when streamers play , and always wondered about the weak spins (think its always around 10) then 1 with a bit more oomph .
Reminds me of the cartoons in the bookies place ur bets 1 min b4 the race starts, which i thought was well dodgy , as this would enable any computer to count where the best horse or car / dog football team to win would help them acheive their rtp on whichever event they were showing , just enough time for this to happen
If the price is right ,
looks a more trustworthy wheel never ever saw that spinning back 2 or 3 places ??
would luv to see a competition between maybe 10 or so ex croupiers spinning a wheel for say 50 grand who ever lands in the same section the most takes the cash .that would be an eyeopener for the ukgc????
Yeah I’m guessing they’re fully aware of the roulette deal, but there’s not much more that can be done with that. Besides, most of the busier casinos normally have huge bets on every single number from various players, so it doesn’t make much sense to control the section even if they could.
I certainly remember your post regarding this matter on another thread and yes like usual i tend to agree. First question would be if your seeing a pattern is there a way to stop betting on certain spins and just bet on the ones you think are likely to land near the 2 or 4 roll section or is this impossible because you don’t know how many rotations of the wheel there will be. Tbh with a wheel that size even with 3 or 4 rotations after 1000’s of spins you’d get a feel of which area the wheel would stop in making the game extremely difficult to regulate anyway in my opinion. Second question can you bet while wheel is in motion like roulette. I’ve seen very little of monopoly so i don’t know the answer to that. I’d probably say if you think it is possible to avoid the areas containing 2 or 4 rolls then play the game at off peak times but you do seem to be doing ok as you are. In answer to your question I’d guess the UKGC probably don’t like the game but barely let it be available to play.I think we often have the same thought pattern Haz, haha! The problem is, I don’t know in advance how they’re going to spin it. It’s only after they spin it you can see what may come in and what definitely won’t come in. In regards to your second question, they only start spinning after betting closes.
I hate monopoly live for this reason. I feel like it can be manipulated to a certain area with the force of a spin. I do think they should have at least 2 rotations before stopping on a section. I’d have thought if you spun the wheel enough times over a few months or what ever, you’d get to know how much strength to put into a spin to get it to land somewhere.
UKGC should have definitely looked into this one more.. and dreamcatcher.
Definitely! I’ll share what I get back once I get around to querying it with the UKGC.
I have this same reservation about Monopoly Live. I think the concept is superb and it is great entertainment but those slow rolls really wind me up – if my money is down. Also knowing immediately the host removes their hands from the wheel that 4 rolls has zero probability of landing has put me off getting more involved.
I know the hosts do not look at the wheel as they are spinning but can they see the wheel in a monitor prior to making their spin?
There are 54 segments on the wheel and I would love to know the rate at which 4 rolls lands because I have more than a hunch it is well in excess of every 54 spins.
Fully on the same page bud. As above, I don’t know what they can and can’t see in front of them. Hopefully not a lot! I’d also be interested to see the stats on this. I’m guessing this level of tracking is probably part of the regulation by the UKGC (or other parties) to see how closely the theoretically to actual ends up being.
I wonder if theres a stats board anywhere which tells you the full history of monopoly live since it first started. That would be interesting to see, don’t you think?I’d love to see something like this! I’d love to see it for all games in fact. I work with data for a living, and I love it! Stats are the best. 😀
I started playing this for 4 rolls whenever I could see it hadn’t come in for the 64 previous spins (the maximum it can show in history) then waiting till 100 spins in total before placing the first bet. Then slowly increasing stake till it hits, done it 3 times, never again, I know it can go hundreds, probably thousands of spins at a rate of 1/54 chance so stupid to think I had more chance.
Broke even each time, but it the frustration of knowing instantly that it has no chance of hitting the 4 rolls that made me stop, Maybe the dealers don’t try and miss it (and I’m certainly not a ‘the casinos are out to swindle us’ type) but its the fact they could easily make it miss that has put me off.
Saying that, if they took away the human element I bet even more people would believe its rigged, so guess the providers can’t win. Maybe they should do it blind folded and have to spin 3 times before release!
Yeah that’s the problem, 4 rolls is naturally very unlikely to land given the 1/54 chance. Basically 1.5x more unlikely than landing a single number on roulette. Yeah I guess I don’t have a solution for them on this, and again, I’m not accusing them of any purposeful wrongdoing, I’m just curious as to the set up as it can be so easily biased if they wanted to.
I haven’t had a look at this myself yet tbh apart from one video that was floating about where it went absolutely monstrous, i will have to have a look what is involved on it, probably be carnage though lolWould love to see you give it a go Steve! It is great fun, but sometimes it needs a slightly longer session if you’re after rolls or something mad. Most spins are 1 or 2 really. If you do play, avoid 1 and 5, as the RTP is terrible – ~91% or something mad.
I like Unibet as a site, but their customer service is poor and they have next to nothing in regards to rewarding loyalty. No points, scarse bonuses. It’s weird.
It definitely dose take into account the stake size. No one is ever hitting a 1000x on the silly stakes. It’s just never going to happen.
On the big win page some wins are 8000x no one is letting that hit on stakes bigger then 5quid possible less
That’s random for you! Sounds like you got really unlucky. Anything below 200x on max is poor.
I personally despise this slot, and I’ve never managed a max bonus despite numerous attempts. I think it’s even more dangerous than Extra Chilli.
It baffles me how many people think the RTP gets lower for you because people are winning.
The shocking thing is, plenty of croupiers and casino workers that I speak to also think this. Common misconception!
I think it stems from history, and how pub slots work.
Do it Haz! It’s like a generous donation from me to you ?
Sound tricky, hope to see you on day 2! I’ll just randomly shout “slots are random” throughout the day.
What day you entering bud? I’ll be there on day 1F (Thurs). Made £350 last year, plus a few hundred on cash so a successful trip!
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