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Awesome result man! This is something that has always alluded me, on any number of lines. I’ve probably had easily over 200,000 spins on book games, and never hit this. Had 4x explorer two or three times though in the bonus for 1000x.

Solid bet size too 😉

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Haz40 wrote:

Biohazard wrote:

It’s hilarious that people think he didn’t deserve a ban. Long overdue.

Perhaps we can finally get new members joining and taking part in discussions again!

What you trying to say are you fed up of us.

Never of you Haz ?

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It’s hilarious that people think he didn’t deserve a ban. Long overdue.

Perhaps we can finally get new members joining and taking part in discussions again!

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Kim and Reggie from Letsgiveitaspin visited Netent and had several collaboration sessions which did influence the end result (for example, the original bonus game was different, and they shaped it based on suggestions from the duo). More of a consultation session than anything!

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This slot annoys the hell out of me. It’s designed in a way to make people think each bee gets you a step closer to the swarm releasing, but that’s not the case.

The way I see it, it’s better to view the bee as a two scatter drop, with the hive outcome being the potential final scatter. If it misses, you just had a tease (e.g. just like getting two books on Book of Dead). If it lands, you basically hit the third scatter!

Baffles me why people up the stake on this slot, but not others. It’s essentially the same process.

Anyway, as @Haz40 says, only up the stake if you both want to and can afford to. Best of luck! 🙂

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Although I did enjoy the episode, it wasn’t satisfying. Don’t necessarily know what they could have done differently, I just know that it was lacking something.

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@Rbreen91, I think that post is the first one of yours I’ve seen in days that’s not been reported (yet…) ?

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TheVajinator wrote:

Never went into deep discussion about stuff like that and never will. It was enough for me to witness full tilt/pokerstars fails, phill hellmuth playing online and getting wins on losing hand. Schills bulldozing wins on poker and etc. Only true degenerate would keep defending this industry and the reason is those people do not want to admit to themselves they most likely lost their money with no chance of ever winning.

Lol

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awesomex wrote:

Again, someone who defends the casinos. Amazing.

Banter.

Mr B wrote:

You say obviously corruption exists. But you don’t say in the gambling world, just generally.

Biohazard wrote:

Can corruption in this industry happen? Absolutely.

On this very page.

Mr B wrote:

And just because “rigged” isn’t the only option, doesn’t mean it isn’t.

I agree with you.

Mr B wrote:

The black jack dealer was (someone said here I think) sacked.

It was me that said that. I read a whole case about it a while back. They interviewed him and tried to investigate why he did what he did (apparently) and refused to answer any questions. I agree this is a dodgy af one.

Mr B wrote:

Casinomeister lists a whole host of rogue casinos and while I am not saying every casino is playing beyond the house edge, and without evidence to prove there is, or isn’t, it is equally wrong to say (from nowhere) that casino is corrupt or indeed that casino isn’t corrupt.

Although, again, I actually agree with you, surely ‘innocent until proven guilty’ should play a factor here? If we don’t apply it, then where do we draw the line? Sometimes in life we have to be more trusting, it’s no wonder anxiety is such a prolific issue in this day and age.

Mr B wrote:

I’m certainly not buying this bullshit excuse (was it argyl who said it?) that because a casino is bigger, it is somehow less likely to be corrupt.

I said it. Risk and reward!

Mr B wrote:

And could the gov.commission be turning a blind eye in some way shape or form  as someone has said already ? I would suffer no form of shock if it was.

So what’s the advantage to them doing this? They could incur absolutely huge financial and operational penalties on the casino at fault (as they have done, particularly in the last couple of years). Even if the casino was to bribe them, this would never amount to even close to the penalties they could inflict.

Not to mention the scale of this corruption would be absolutely unprecedented if what people are saying in this thread was true.

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awesomex wrote:

Tricky0212 wrote:

I pretty much stand 100% with Bio Hazard in this topic, and I agree that a proper debate is impossible because those who think it’s rigged can’t fathom any form of counter argument.

A simple way of putting it is like this. Let’s say someone gives you a machine and says – no matter what this machine will make you £250k per year without fail. You decide to “rig” it to try and get the machine to make you £300k per year. If you’re caught, your business is fined, you’re shut down and will never operate again. You now will not get your guaranteed 250k per year all because you wanted a little more.

That is basically a casino model. The games are designed to mathematically win in the long run. If you flipped a coin the bookies would offer you odds of 5/6 on heads 5/6 on tails. You play a thousand times and win 50% of your games (as you should) but they have still profited over you because of the way the game is structured.

There is no reason to rig any game, and the RTP debate should not be started again. Bottom line is very few people understand it and having lost from gambling on these games causes people to lose the ability to rationalise the facts involved. A game was designed to make you lose, and you lost – it’s that simple. What was meant to happen, happened – no rigging just the game randomly functioning as it should.

 

I’ll await some form of abuse.

So from all the videos I provided, you think it’s all just random? When there’s proof, right there, clearly showing that the casino is cheating, you still defend the casinos? Something’s wrong with your head mate.

I think it’s quite obvious that @Tricky0212 is talking about the grand scheme. The only clear cut proof you have posted is the BetOnline case, and I think we’re all in agreement with that one.

Can corruption in this industry happen? Absolutely.

The point being made here is that, the bigger, more reputable casinos, have no reason to be as corrupt as they’re being made out to be here. Yes, they could potentially increase their profit margin by doing so, and greed is a trait that most of us have, but the risk and reward simply doesn’t make sense. They already bring in large revenue, why risk all that with huge financial penalties and the threat of permanent closure?

Of course, I’m wasting my time here, as you have already made it clear you don’t trust any form of organisation, whether public or private. This debate is basically dead.

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Mr B, I’m a little confused about why you have quoted me alongside that post?

Obviously corruption exists, who has said it doesn’t? I’m merely providing a counter argument to the examples given by the OP. “Rigged” isn’t the only possible route cause for these events. It’s about time people realised that.

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No, I’m not naive at all. I’m a realist, always have been.

This one is 100% rigged. There’s no question about it.

It’s statements like this that make debates on this forum quite often impossible.

Open your mind, see both sides and provide the corresponding evidence if you actually want to have an intellectual debate on this topic.

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???

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Lots to address in this thread – I’ll try and respond to most examples made…

DOA2 Big Win/Streamers
Although it does seem a bit unlikely the amount of huge wins we’ve seen on DOA2 already from well known streamers, I don’t believe any dodgy dealing is happening. They’ve just got lucky, as any of us can get. You have to remember that these guys are slotting almost constantly, sooner or later they’re bound hit big and then share this win with the community. What we often don’t seen are the hundreds or thousands of losing spins leading up to that point.

Spin a win/Dreamcatcher
Again with this one, I can see how this looks dodgy, but I think @Seedy has explained this one nicely. The same thing has happened on Dreamcatcher before. This is a giant wheel that spins on an axis of some sort, it’s mechanical, at times things are going to go wrong, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that there are controllable brakes that allow the casino to control the outcome how they please. Wheels like these are checked and verified all the time. It’d be so easy for them to be found out as ‘rigged’ by an independent commission if they were.

Rocknrolla/Roulette
A spinning ball with momentum chucking itself against a counter spinning wheel, with numerous edges and variables in play, can result in some pretty whacky outcomes. Do I believe in this example it was rigged? No. That’s just my opinion, I can’t prove whether it is or not. People love to accuse Roulette as being rigged more than any other game. As long as you stick to the reputable companies, you should be fine. Most of the time, you’re going to lose on it, it’s just the way it’s designed.

Blackjack/Dodgy dealer
This one is 100% dodgy, no question about it. Betonline have a pretty foul history with this sort of thing. This dealer was investigated and been forced to leave by the business, I believe.

Jammin’ Jars
Although incredibly unlikely, this sort of thing is possible. Jammin’ Jars has come under flack for their ‘small’ number of different winning visuals. I think the rep in that video explained exactly how this happened, so what’s the problem on this one? That you don’t believe them? If not, why not? This one links in with the original streamer trustworthiness from earlier.

Random
This has been covered to death. Let’s not get into this one all over again.

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Mr B wrote:

If he is being sarcastic, it’s not clear but £4.5k from £1.80 spins I hope he is. I don’t know or can imply he is fake but I do know I have watched him play enough to lose interest and find no urge to watch him play any more.

That he has some form of ownership or shares where he plays (he said so) may have killed my urge.

The trigger was £4,500, so he’s just referencing the bonus round itself.

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