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Anyone able to help me? Verified my account and was upgraded to vip with a bonus. Anyway clearer the wagering on bonus and got balance up to £4000 and now I’ve been advised my account is closed and winnings confiscated!!! Without a reason
Nothing we can do here to help you bud, you’ll just have to pester them for a response. We’re more in the dark on this than you are!
The dirtiest is part is the zero win when you hit 11 of anything. It’s filthy that there wasn’t a contingency built into this slot so that it would never give you the jackpot number unless it was going to hit for something.
I too have had the 11 heavy duty wilds miss completely for a big fat zero and it is utterly disgusting!
I do like Spinal Tap, but only in moderation, it can be horrendous as Steve showed.
There was a member on here called Just Basics who raised the exact same points as you and debated in the same manner.
I’m not taking it personally at all, I’m just providing facts on the topic at hand and providing my own stance on the matter. No one has once stated here with full certainty that casinos don’t cheat – if you can provide the quote where I have said this I’d much appreciate it. I have actually said, on several occasions now within this thread alone, that corruption with major, reputable casinos and providers is rare. Rare being the keyword.
In Betfred’s case, it seemed like more incompetence towards a corrupt provider than anything else. Not excusable, but certainly not something that would make me class Betfred as “rogue”. They did come out and offer refunds on all wagers made on these games. Perhaps not soon enough, agreed, but a mass-refund on a set of games is not something that a casino would do lightly. It took months and months of evidence and statistical analysis compiled by CasinoMeister and co to come to a resolution.
It wasn’t regarding blackjack win. Regarding Finsoft/Spielo G2 software. A quick google search will show the issue.
Are you Just Basics by any chance? You two are incredibly alike. You seem to be disregarding all of my points and solely focussing on your own, original point, despite the debate evolving.
So the Finsoft/Spielo G2 software was the provider being rogue (whether intentional or a major accidental flaw in the design of the game). Betfred didn’t create the game, nor did they manipulate it to provide themselves with a positive outcome.
Now, how Betfred handled the whole situation was poorly, in relation to refunds, working with this provider etc. and at the end of the day they did breach their license in using their software, however that is not the topic that we are discussing here.
And I’ll revert back to my original point of, these occurrences are rare not impossible.
Great wins matey! Always sweet when it falls on the last spin, when all hope is lost!
Last month in the casino itself, I was down to my last spin and hit five books on Book of Ra. Bonus didn’t go for much, and I was soon down to my last couple of spins again when I landed the bonus on Book of Ra 6. Ended up getting a full screen of kings for 375x, think the total bonus went for 500xish off the top of my head, so I cashed out and ran away! Mad session.
2Well ‘betfred’ are a major provider..yet they were caught using rogue software were they not? As i say..when there’s money to be made..anything goes.
Do you have a source for this? If you’re talking about the £1.7m blackjack win, that has been determined as a glitch right now, I believe there is still evidence being compiled for a lengthy court case. Accusing Betfred of being rogue based on this would be incorrect, as no one, currently, has any evidence to support that claim. It was discussed on this forum a while back.
Also, I did say rare, as with anything in life, there are always going to be exceptions.
Cheers for your thoughts/views/opinions/facts…..very interesting topics and I totally agree that everything is tracked for a number of different purposes.
I’d just love to learn and understand the game engines and mathematics that go into creating one of the many billions of combinations that product the big wins. I mean it’s possible to hit a full screen of skulls on DHV or even diamonds on Bonanza, but the chances of that happening are so rare, but wanted to know if anything goes into the algorithm to suggest the symbols on the reels need to have a certain combination or number of different kinds of symbols based on the ways that will be displayed.
Anyway, just babbling now and good that other people are thinking about these things. But just want to spend one day in the life of a slot developers head to understand the game mechanics really.
Happy gambling!
I guess the in-game mechanics are where it gets a lot more complicated. The providers will design the slot and tweak it significantly until the RTP rests in the desired position over billions of spins. Every slot will be designed differently. I’d lean towards saying that a full screen of the top symbol on Bonanza, DHV etc. aren’t possible and probably aren’t programmed into the game. For example, most Blueprints have a cap of 10,000x, despite there being combinations that should surpass this.
We can never say for certain..casinos have rigged games in the past..claiming unintentional or otherwise. So it has happened
But you can say this about anything, otherwise where do you draw the line? Sometimes you have to take things as they are.
Corruption with major, reputable casinos and providers is rare. As Green said, they don’t need to manipulate anything, it’s already in their favour. The risk versus the reward absolutely isn’t worth it. There of course will be smaller, dodgier sites that I would steer clear of for being rogue, but the main ones you should feel safe playing with.
The industry is heavily regulated, more so now than ever in the UK.
This topic has been covered a lot.
Each and every spin is tracked, in relation to amount wagered, amount won, ticket reference, user, and a timestamp. Not sure if any other information is tracked and stored outside of these, but these five items are a definite.
However, just because this data is tracked and stored, doesn’t mean it is (nor can it be) used to manipulate the RTP of a particular game. Every spin is random and not at all compensated, unless it clearly states otherwise (e.g. pub slots).
Any contradictory experiences to this are purely coincidence. They are not manipulated.
I have to say, you are definitely onto something here.
I normally bet between £1 and £2 per spin, which means my deposits each month are often pretty huge to avoid an instant bust-town. However, on Christmas Eve, I was doing 20p spins on Reel King from a £50 deposit (granted I did reload twice, so £150) and I did have fun! And I was okay with the amount that I’d lost. £150 is obviously a lot, don’t get me wrong, but compared to the £500/£1000/£1500 it could have been on my normal bet sizing, it was a healthy amount.
Lower your stakes!
1i have started something simalar for the bandit. evrything raised will be sent to the bandit via transfer and donated by steve to a charity of his choice
much appreciated
I’m sure your heart is in the right place, but this is a bit perplexing – you’ve even used the same picture and description?
To avoid confusion bud, you’re best off removing this one and stick to the existing one only.
1Time to stop, bud. If it’s at the point where you can’t afford to pay your bills, it’s time to stop. No doubt about it.
I know it’s tilting when you seem to lose every time, I’ve certainly been there, and when I tilt, it just makes me play more! So just cool off and don’t go back, at least for a long time.
High volatility slots are best to play on small stakes with the hope of hitting a big win still. Some sessions of course you won’t hit anything, but when you do, it could be huge, even on micro stakes.
Queen of Riches, Starquest, Napoleon, Jamming Jars, Knights Life. These are a good few to get you started.
31That is a lot, and a great x win also! Congrats!
Think I’ve seen 90 before? Can’t remember.
1FIX, IT’S A FIX! You have streamers RTP, it’s clear now.
I’m reporting your post for inappropriate content you dirty dog!
Haha Bandits posts don’t have a report button, how unfair is that ??
The cheeky bastard! He knew we’d be coming for him.
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