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PMDX wrote:

Hey guys hope all is well.

Just wanted to make everyone aware of an experience I had with casper games. I must stress it’s not entirely their fault. I probably should of read the Ts and Cs properly.

Anyway, I had free spins bonus where I won £16. Somehow I managed to get this to over £300. I managed to get through their massive 65x wagering which took hours. My balance which was still somehow £300+ then shot down to £28.

 

After speaking with their support they pointed me to a part of the Ts and Cs which state bonus funds will only convert to cash relative to your lifetime deposits. So yep I only put in £28 to that point.

To say I was gutted is an understatement as that would of come in real handy about now.

 

Again I’m not blaming them as its there if you read it but just be careful .

Yeah it’s your fault but it’s still bullshit, this is what should be illegal. These type of terms should not be allowed. I assume they aren’t regulated but if they somehow are, GC needs to come down hard on these terms. Don’t worry about quick spins just sort out these blatantly conjob terms.

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100% a real site. You may even have an admiral in your town centre that you didn’t even know about. Slot only casinos. However if wins weren’t being added to balance then that could be a fault or a display issue. Speak to customer service and they can check back through every spin if needed.

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CasinoGod wrote:

Someone has reached out who codes websites for a living and  said this, it pretty much confirms what we have been thinking.

If you look on his website, none of the Casinos in this brand, “Spinz”, “Winston Bet”, “Awsome Spins” or “Jungle Spins” have affiliate tracking ID’s in the URL.  Have a look.

Home Page

<iframe class=”wp-embedded-content” style=”position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);” title=”“Home Page” — Chipmonk Slotz” src=”https://chipmonkzslots.com/embed#?secret=5CVp24NHX0&#8243; width=”600″ height=”338″ frameborder=”0″ marginwidth=”0″ marginheight=”0″ scrolling=”no” sandbox=”allow-scripts” data-secret=”5CVp24NHX0″></iframe>

This is what every URL will look like, each link has a code on it

This is what Winston, Spinz, Jungle, Awsome look like:

He is not tracking the visits to these casinos, so that means he does not get paid for  sign ups to them. Why would he do that?

Because he’s on the fixed fee / deposit cover per video. There is no reason why he would be promoting Casinos that he cannot get affiliate earnings from so this means he must be getting paid some other way.

None of THOSE dodgy ones he gets the fixed fee per video have this tracking. Have a look…

So why? Why could he possibly send traffic to that casinos for free without his affiliate ID? Because  he’s getting paid outside the normal scope for them.

 

I have no idea how to verify this stuff, I’m useless on computers. Chip has stated that he doesn’t get paid a fee per video. Of course he could be lying but it could be the truth aswell. Have you checked other people’s sites  like Craig and Jimbos to compare? We know for sure they are affiliates who get some sort of money from losses from their players. Now chip has said he doesn’t get paid a fee I’m.more inclined to believe him as its better for him to just stay silent, now if he is lying he will get more.shit and if he is telling the truth the ones who just hate him are gonna hate him more. If he doesn’t get paid per video or get % of his players losses the only other thing is maybe a monthly contract. So is employed by the casinos. Whether this is even a thing, I don’t know? In my opinion, if he is just getting affiliation money and is using that to gamble then it’s all good. Like others have mentioned if it’s a fee per video or my suggestion of a monthly fee/wage then I’m on the fence. It doesn’t really show the true nature of gambling which in turn doesn’t promote responsible gambling. Also I would like a answer on how multiple.people can play on one account. This clearly breaks TOS so I don’t like that fact it’s one rule for one and one rule for another. Any chance this question can be answered by you chip?

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James1888 wrote:

Yeah, I know. The main point of the thread is your obsession with Chip. Anyway, doesn’t matter, its not important. What I’m having for lunch is way more important….

Have a good one. Hope you save us all from the tyrant called Chip.

Got no obsession with chip, if the thread was about Gabriel slots or about nick slots or about any of the Curacao site streamers or about bandit himself. I would have the same stance. My obsession is with responsible gambling. All I care about is that content creators are not exploiting vulnerable people or children. My main beef is with casinos who do this, but this is then extended to content creators who promote said sites.

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James1888 wrote:

ATTENTION  ALL.

It has not been confirmed Chipmonkz is (partially) using Fake Money.

Keep up the good work Chip. I enjoy your content cos I enjoy slots. I have absolutely no interest in your affiliation deals and can’t believe people invest so much time obsessing about it.

Keep streaming, keep winning and people will keep watching.

Apologies about the positive post everyone. Guess I better say something nasty or I’ll be removed from this forum. Chip – stop playing Goonies, it’s shite!

If you had read the thread the main points aren’t about his affiliation deals.

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chipmonkz wrote:

Hi just wanted to jump in and clarify this for you.

My pokemon channel is a separate entity in itself and has 0 links to my gambling channel.

The only way you would be offered a video about gambling is if you as a viewer already watch gambling content.

Youtubes algorithm does not know i have a second channel as they are not linked in any way.

Most viewers on my pokemon channel are my age believe it or not as most big collectors are older.

My intention is not to garner people to watch my gambling content its merely a hobby for me that i enjoy a lot and wanted to share as the pokemon community is very big.

I dont have an angle to do anything other than have fun with the second channel.

Hope this clears it up for you Cheers

I assume your YouTube channel has your real name attached to it? I also assume your Pokémon channel has that same name attached. I don’t know exactly how recommendations work, but I have been recommended second channels of people i watch where their second channel content is completely different to anything I have watched. It’s not your fault but as long as you do you best to keep everything seperate then it’s on YouTube to not promote gambling to under 18s. I may have missed it but don’t think I did, can you answer the question about how multiple people can play on one account? But if we as regular players did this we would be banned? Also saying no would lead us to believe that you do have some sort of deal per video or something going on. If you didn’t have any deals at all then you could say no as you wouldn’t have a NDA in place. I don’t even care if you are paid to make videos or they cover a percentage of your losses or whatever it maybe. However it needs to be disclosed. I don’t believe the casino is right in blocking you from revealing the information, in effect it does not promote responsible gambling. You getting paid let’s say £100 to make 1 video, plus unlimited matched bonuses plus a percentage of players losses plus maybe a percentage of your overall losses returned, it slowly puts the house edge close to 100%. If not over 100%. Of course the slot machines edge won’t change but theoretically with everything else involved you could technically be a profitable slot player, which does not promote the real side of gambling. It gives a false insight into gambling. I feel like the ukgc is going to come down harder on things like this so in the future your hand maybe forced. Again I have no ill will towards you and I hope you do well but I know the realities of gambling addiction and gambling content has only been around for a short time on YouTube and twitch so I don’t think the regulations are as tight as they should be in protecting young and vulnerable people from gambling. Thanks for answering the questions in the first place. You had no obligation to do so.

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MaskWearer wrote:

Seedy wrote:

Maskwearer I had previously asked that posts don’t consist of insults like the one in your last 2 posts they have been removed. Any more will result in a removal of the right to post for a time period. I previously said having an opinion is fine but there is a correct way of doing things and then there is your last 2 posts.

Regardless of your argument also note that mental health is regarded as something important on this forum not just for streamers or gamblers but for any individual anywhere.

You could have edited the bits you objected to instead of removing the whole rant, ya bufty!

We’re not allowed to swear now on a website dedicated to The Bandit?

Regarding the topic of mental health I will repeat what I said with the nanny-filter on because it is worth saying. If you want to be a snowflake about it you go ahead it doesn’t change the truth of the message. Paraphrasing:

I disagree with @ Lifeslots: “Mental health isn’t a joke and it’s all fun and games untill someone gets hurt. Please think before typing…….”

I thought before I typed. People who gamble, like us, know what’s gonna happen before we start gambling. We are going to be on cloud 9 or we are going to be pissed off. Nobody deserves dispensation for being a dick. If you started drinking alcohol and knew you had to drive a car, you’re a dick. If you started gambling and knew you had to be patient with your kids’ homework, your wife’s stories, you lost and didn’t find the time or were harsh with them – you’re a dick

If you’re a drug dealer selling amphetamines and then cry in forums about not being able to sleep – TOUGH SHIT – your actions cause many more people than you to lose their sleep

If you are a gambling streamer you have no right to cry about your mental health. You want to encourage people to do their balls in, ruin their lives, disrupt families, and then cry you’re having a bad day because the trolls are messing with your mental health? Fuck right off.

Specifically with regards Chip, I gave the same advice any doctor or mental health professional would give him – Stop sitting on your arse all day smoking, eating crap, playing slot machines and video games and YOUR MENTAL HEALTH WILL IMPROVE. When you encourage people to copy the fucked up habits that led to your mental disease, you bet I’ll call you out for your crocodile tears

The objective an honest truth is that Chip is a parasite. That’s not name-calling that’s a fact. He is a parasite leaching off the health and vitality of those who sign up through his links, attempting to repeat the impossible image displayed by Chip with his 1) Free casino money 2) high stakes 3) unlimited bonuses with preferred terms 4) rampant abuse of those bonuses 5) multi-accounting with Jord

The multi-accounting with Jord is egregious like it’s money laundering technically to allow someone else to play with your casino account. Jord plays, make his own decisions and takes a cut of winnings, so, that would get all of us banned and forfeit all of our winnings. This is the professional, the casino streamer, but we aren’t allowed to copy what he does? FALSE ADVERTISING. FRAUDULENT.

The casinos tell us this crap is to protect us (verification, refusal of withdrawals etc), then Chipper comes on to abuse the fuck out of everything and make a mockery of the whole thing. It’s just a mirage to get people to deposit and ruin people. Chip loves it, LOVES IT. He wants to ruin as many people as possible so his life is comfortable and he can boast about his Pokemon cards. And we all know Chip is a bully and a psychological manipulator. Dozens of people have said so over an extended period of time. Better protect the mental health rights of the bully making all the money though …. wtf has this world come to? Pack of woke little bitches.

Don’t know how you phrased it the first time but this seems reasonable. Don’t agree with all you have said but most I do agree with. I have to say I don’t think chip does what he does to ruin lives but he will be aware his actions and influence will and likely has led to some lives being ruined. Maybe this is something that people disagree with but I have seen gambling addiction take hold and take everything from multiple people when I worked in a landbased casino. That’s without outside influences encouraging gambling because even without all the streamers and YouTubers, gambling is highly addictive and even people on here can attest to their lives being ruined because of gambling addiction.

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Xbobmad wrote:

This is all incoherent ramblings… The next Jimmy Savile? Because the guy has an interest in Pokémon so makes a channel about Pokémon? No wonder you get blocked from his social media coming out with idiotic comments like that.

Didnt see what he said but this is why most streamers don’t want to talk or answer certain questions because they just get insulted with shit like this. I do agree that the Pokémon things needs to be completely separated and no links to his main channel though. From what I’ve seen I do think that is the case but with YouTube recommendations who knows if children are being recommended his gambling content aswell. I think that YouTube are making it mandatory for people watching gambling related content to make an account which should help stop underage viewers.

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32red wrote:

Ive watched quite a lot of Nick’s streams and one thing that annoys me is that he will often reference (or get asked) if he is up/down for the year. He will answer saying he is up £20k (or whatever it is but I believe he is ‘up’ currently after his recent wins). I’ve never once heard him caveat that by saying BUT that is only because of the unlimited £500 + £500 deposit bonuses I get. Now I don’t mind what he makes elsewhere from affiliation and I don’t mind that he uses the bonuses because why wouldn’t you if they are available. But these are only available to him because he’s a popular streamer. To give a true representation would be to only include cashouts from raw funds and never from dipping into bonus and beating the wager. I’d bet the actual profit/loss for the year from that method would be more like a 50-100k loss. The problem saying it how he does (and I’m using him as an example but no doubt others do the same) is that it gives his followers the impression that jeez this guy gambles for hours a day, every day and he’s up for the year, maybe I could do that! It makes it seem achievable when in reality it’s not.

This is actually something I’ve never thought about tbh. It’s very true that being able to have unlimited 100% matches has a major impact on overall win/loss. Even as someone who watches a fair amount of content I didn’t even think about this. With nick I commented on his YouTube about what he says when he wins big. When he hit the dead or alive 2 wild line he says “that’s how you do it boys, persistence” I think this has a hugely negative influence on the people watching. I told him this in the comments, in a respectful manner. He was hearting every other other comment but mine. Didn’t respond either. I believe that someone who has so much influence on people in regards to gambling, despite being extremely excited needs to be careful with what they say and how they promote gambling. “Persistence” should not be used when referring to gambling.

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* not saying they should give every piece of information.

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When asked the tougher questions many just instantly ban or block you. It’s not as easy as ask and they will give you every piece of information. As this is specifically being spoke about chip I’ll use him. The guy isn’t transparent, he will say he is but he just isn’t. All I ask is be transparent so that nobody is being mislead, especially vulnerable people. In regards to bandit, I’m sure he has posted where basically all his money came from (reel king and swarm) including rough numbers of affiliation. So you can see exactly where his money is from, the fact it’s real and the fact he can afford to lose 60k in a session that’s all his own money. If bandit was doing the same thing but none of the above information was true and he had deals with casinos but didn’t disclose terms of said deals then I would have the exact same opinion as I do with chip. I believe I also have said on this forum that in my mind, the way bandit plays reel king isn’t promoting responsible gambling. It’s effectively a martingale strategy but more complex. I don’t watch the reel king content because it’s boring imo but even though I don’t believe it’s great at promoting responsible gambling, at least I am confident that it is his own money and he can afford to lose it. Which is far better than chip losing, let’s say 3k but it’s what the casino paid him to promote their site while not disclosing that fact. (Not saying he does this but there is enough evidence to suggest it’s a possibility). In regards to the name calling and “bullying” I don’t agree with it. However I do believe there are some valid points and questions that need to be addressed and answered. This includes many other streamers and YouTubers not just chip. UKGC is and will continue to come down hard on gambling content and a time will come where these people will be forced to tell the truth and/or lose their ability to provide for their family through gambling affiliation and content creation.

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Lifeslots wrote:

Wow,

you lot are going on like Chip is an international YouTube influencer.

Let me put this simply……

Chip <span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>has 40k gambling addicts Subscribed not 40million , let’s face it that’s what we all are. What other sad people watch people spin slots for hours – I do and I’m sad.

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These same people are taking the moral high ground!!!

Just Fucking unsubscribe and move on with life, the geezer is trying to make a living for his family.

Crack on Chip, don’t know you but crack on providing free entertainment to us

The problem is, is he creating this free content within the boundaries of the law and do any of his actions constitute promotion of irresponsible gambling? With the information I have seen and heard plus having some knowledge of the casino industry I believe he doesn’t promote responsible or safe gambling, is in direct conflict with certain UKGC guidelines and potentially breaks some sort of advertising laws along the way. I appreciate he is making a living for his family, and he has now bought his own house through the proceeds of gambling affiliation but if he is breaking laws and codes of conduct then he deserves to be investigated as such. Also, don’t lump everyone together with you. 40k subs aren’t all the same as you. You may think you are sad because you watch slots but don’t tar everyone with the same brush.

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Xbobmad wrote:

I think the UKGC have stopped turbo spins as of the end of the month in the UK anyways. 2.5s minimum between spins.

???? That’s rank. I play slots for bonuses. That’s why I love pragmatic super turbo spins. I understand the reason behind it but slow spins ruin slots for me.

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Yeah I used to watch him but then I found out he was promoting sites with horrendous bonus terms and didn’t stop until people brought it up. Jimbo did it recently and chip was like “i didn’t know I’ve stopped promoting them now” no need to lie just be transparent.

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