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chipmonkz wrote:

Hi just wanted to jump in and clarify this for you.

My pokemon channel is a separate entity in itself and has 0 links to my gambling channel.

The only way you would be offered a video about gambling is if you as a viewer already watch gambling content.

Youtubes algorithm does not know i have a second channel as they are not linked in any way.

Most viewers on my pokemon channel are my age believe it or not as most big collectors are older.

My intention is not to garner people to watch my gambling content its merely a hobby for me that i enjoy a lot and wanted to share as the pokemon community is very big.

I dont have an angle to do anything other than have fun with the second channel.

Hope this clears it up for you Cheers

I assume your YouTube channel has your real name attached to it? I also assume your Pokémon channel has that same name attached. I don’t know exactly how recommendations work, but I have been recommended second channels of people i watch where their second channel content is completely different to anything I have watched. It’s not your fault but as long as you do you best to keep everything seperate then it’s on YouTube to not promote gambling to under 18s. I may have missed it but don’t think I did, can you answer the question about how multiple people can play on one account? But if we as regular players did this we would be banned? Also saying no would lead us to believe that you do have some sort of deal per video or something going on. If you didn’t have any deals at all then you could say no as you wouldn’t have a NDA in place. I don’t even care if you are paid to make videos or they cover a percentage of your losses or whatever it maybe. However it needs to be disclosed. I don’t believe the casino is right in blocking you from revealing the information, in effect it does not promote responsible gambling. You getting paid let’s say £100 to make 1 video, plus unlimited matched bonuses plus a percentage of players losses plus maybe a percentage of your overall losses returned, it slowly puts the house edge close to 100%. If not over 100%. Of course the slot machines edge won’t change but theoretically with everything else involved you could technically be a profitable slot player, which does not promote the real side of gambling. It gives a false insight into gambling. I feel like the ukgc is going to come down harder on things like this so in the future your hand maybe forced. Again I have no ill will towards you and I hope you do well but I know the realities of gambling addiction and gambling content has only been around for a short time on YouTube and twitch so I don’t think the regulations are as tight as they should be in protecting young and vulnerable people from gambling. Thanks for answering the questions in the first place. You had no obligation to do so.

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MaskWearer wrote:

Seedy wrote:

Maskwearer I had previously asked that posts don’t consist of insults like the one in your last 2 posts they have been removed. Any more will result in a removal of the right to post for a time period. I previously said having an opinion is fine but there is a correct way of doing things and then there is your last 2 posts.

Regardless of your argument also note that mental health is regarded as something important on this forum not just for streamers or gamblers but for any individual anywhere.

You could have edited the bits you objected to instead of removing the whole rant, ya bufty!

We’re not allowed to swear now on a website dedicated to The Bandit?

Regarding the topic of mental health I will repeat what I said with the nanny-filter on because it is worth saying. If you want to be a snowflake about it you go ahead it doesn’t change the truth of the message. Paraphrasing:

I disagree with @ Lifeslots: “Mental health isn’t a joke and it’s all fun and games untill someone gets hurt. Please think before typing…….”

I thought before I typed. People who gamble, like us, know what’s gonna happen before we start gambling. We are going to be on cloud 9 or we are going to be pissed off. Nobody deserves dispensation for being a dick. If you started drinking alcohol and knew you had to drive a car, you’re a dick. If you started gambling and knew you had to be patient with your kids’ homework, your wife’s stories, you lost and didn’t find the time or were harsh with them – you’re a dick

If you’re a drug dealer selling amphetamines and then cry in forums about not being able to sleep – TOUGH SHIT – your actions cause many more people than you to lose their sleep

If you are a gambling streamer you have no right to cry about your mental health. You want to encourage people to do their balls in, ruin their lives, disrupt families, and then cry you’re having a bad day because the trolls are messing with your mental health? Fuck right off.

Specifically with regards Chip, I gave the same advice any doctor or mental health professional would give him – Stop sitting on your arse all day smoking, eating crap, playing slot machines and video games and YOUR MENTAL HEALTH WILL IMPROVE. When you encourage people to copy the fucked up habits that led to your mental disease, you bet I’ll call you out for your crocodile tears

The objective an honest truth is that Chip is a parasite. That’s not name-calling that’s a fact. He is a parasite leaching off the health and vitality of those who sign up through his links, attempting to repeat the impossible image displayed by Chip with his 1) Free casino money 2) high stakes 3) unlimited bonuses with preferred terms 4) rampant abuse of those bonuses 5) multi-accounting with Jord

The multi-accounting with Jord is egregious like it’s money laundering technically to allow someone else to play with your casino account. Jord plays, make his own decisions and takes a cut of winnings, so, that would get all of us banned and forfeit all of our winnings. This is the professional, the casino streamer, but we aren’t allowed to copy what he does? FALSE ADVERTISING. FRAUDULENT.

The casinos tell us this crap is to protect us (verification, refusal of withdrawals etc), then Chipper comes on to abuse the fuck out of everything and make a mockery of the whole thing. It’s just a mirage to get people to deposit and ruin people. Chip loves it, LOVES IT. He wants to ruin as many people as possible so his life is comfortable and he can boast about his Pokemon cards. And we all know Chip is a bully and a psychological manipulator. Dozens of people have said so over an extended period of time. Better protect the mental health rights of the bully making all the money though …. wtf has this world come to? Pack of woke little bitches.

Don’t know how you phrased it the first time but this seems reasonable. Don’t agree with all you have said but most I do agree with. I have to say I don’t think chip does what he does to ruin lives but he will be aware his actions and influence will and likely has led to some lives being ruined. Maybe this is something that people disagree with but I have seen gambling addiction take hold and take everything from multiple people when I worked in a landbased casino. That’s without outside influences encouraging gambling because even without all the streamers and YouTubers, gambling is highly addictive and even people on here can attest to their lives being ruined because of gambling addiction.

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Xbobmad wrote:

This is all incoherent ramblings… The next Jimmy Savile? Because the guy has an interest in Pokémon so makes a channel about Pokémon? No wonder you get blocked from his social media coming out with idiotic comments like that.

Didnt see what he said but this is why most streamers don’t want to talk or answer certain questions because they just get insulted with shit like this. I do agree that the Pokémon things needs to be completely separated and no links to his main channel though. From what I’ve seen I do think that is the case but with YouTube recommendations who knows if children are being recommended his gambling content aswell. I think that YouTube are making it mandatory for people watching gambling related content to make an account which should help stop underage viewers.

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32red wrote:

Ive watched quite a lot of Nick’s streams and one thing that annoys me is that he will often reference (or get asked) if he is up/down for the year. He will answer saying he is up £20k (or whatever it is but I believe he is ‘up’ currently after his recent wins). I’ve never once heard him caveat that by saying BUT that is only because of the unlimited £500 + £500 deposit bonuses I get. Now I don’t mind what he makes elsewhere from affiliation and I don’t mind that he uses the bonuses because why wouldn’t you if they are available. But these are only available to him because he’s a popular streamer. To give a true representation would be to only include cashouts from raw funds and never from dipping into bonus and beating the wager. I’d bet the actual profit/loss for the year from that method would be more like a 50-100k loss. The problem saying it how he does (and I’m using him as an example but no doubt others do the same) is that it gives his followers the impression that jeez this guy gambles for hours a day, every day and he’s up for the year, maybe I could do that! It makes it seem achievable when in reality it’s not.

This is actually something I’ve never thought about tbh. It’s very true that being able to have unlimited 100% matches has a major impact on overall win/loss. Even as someone who watches a fair amount of content I didn’t even think about this. With nick I commented on his YouTube about what he says when he wins big. When he hit the dead or alive 2 wild line he says “that’s how you do it boys, persistence” I think this has a hugely negative influence on the people watching. I told him this in the comments, in a respectful manner. He was hearting every other other comment but mine. Didn’t respond either. I believe that someone who has so much influence on people in regards to gambling, despite being extremely excited needs to be careful with what they say and how they promote gambling. “Persistence” should not be used when referring to gambling.

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* not saying they should give every piece of information.

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When asked the tougher questions many just instantly ban or block you. It’s not as easy as ask and they will give you every piece of information. As this is specifically being spoke about chip I’ll use him. The guy isn’t transparent, he will say he is but he just isn’t. All I ask is be transparent so that nobody is being mislead, especially vulnerable people. In regards to bandit, I’m sure he has posted where basically all his money came from (reel king and swarm) including rough numbers of affiliation. So you can see exactly where his money is from, the fact it’s real and the fact he can afford to lose 60k in a session that’s all his own money. If bandit was doing the same thing but none of the above information was true and he had deals with casinos but didn’t disclose terms of said deals then I would have the exact same opinion as I do with chip. I believe I also have said on this forum that in my mind, the way bandit plays reel king isn’t promoting responsible gambling. It’s effectively a martingale strategy but more complex. I don’t watch the reel king content because it’s boring imo but even though I don’t believe it’s great at promoting responsible gambling, at least I am confident that it is his own money and he can afford to lose it. Which is far better than chip losing, let’s say 3k but it’s what the casino paid him to promote their site while not disclosing that fact. (Not saying he does this but there is enough evidence to suggest it’s a possibility). In regards to the name calling and “bullying” I don’t agree with it. However I do believe there are some valid points and questions that need to be addressed and answered. This includes many other streamers and YouTubers not just chip. UKGC is and will continue to come down hard on gambling content and a time will come where these people will be forced to tell the truth and/or lose their ability to provide for their family through gambling affiliation and content creation.

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Lifeslots wrote:

Wow,

you lot are going on like Chip is an international YouTube influencer.

Let me put this simply……

Chip <span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>has 40k gambling addicts Subscribed not 40million , let’s face it that’s what we all are. What other sad people watch people spin slots for hours – I do and I’m sad.

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These same people are taking the moral high ground!!!

Just Fucking unsubscribe and move on with life, the geezer is trying to make a living for his family.

Crack on Chip, don’t know you but crack on providing free entertainment to us

The problem is, is he creating this free content within the boundaries of the law and do any of his actions constitute promotion of irresponsible gambling? With the information I have seen and heard plus having some knowledge of the casino industry I believe he doesn’t promote responsible or safe gambling, is in direct conflict with certain UKGC guidelines and potentially breaks some sort of advertising laws along the way. I appreciate he is making a living for his family, and he has now bought his own house through the proceeds of gambling affiliation but if he is breaking laws and codes of conduct then he deserves to be investigated as such. Also, don’t lump everyone together with you. 40k subs aren’t all the same as you. You may think you are sad because you watch slots but don’t tar everyone with the same brush.

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Xbobmad wrote:

I think the UKGC have stopped turbo spins as of the end of the month in the UK anyways. 2.5s minimum between spins.

???? That’s rank. I play slots for bonuses. That’s why I love pragmatic super turbo spins. I understand the reason behind it but slow spins ruin slots for me.

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Yeah I used to watch him but then I found out he was promoting sites with horrendous bonus terms and didn’t stop until people brought it up. Jimbo did it recently and chip was like “i didn’t know I’ve stopped promoting them now” no need to lie just be transparent.

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Jimbo183 wrote:

Hope you lose the lot you greedy prick

Don’t have an aneurysm mate.

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0121 230 6666

So I have no idea if they will do anything but no way a casino allows 70 losing deposits without verification and the moment you try 1 withdrawal they lock your account pending verification. I’m sure this breaks some sort of regulation somewhere. Gambling commission can advice you further. Also make a formal complaint with both the casino and GC.

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thewizard wrote:

so last year for 7 months a lost every single deposit i put on. finally after 7 months, december 25th i loaded a casino with £100 then it happened, a bonus on dragonfall paid 1,100x followed by a victorious max bonus of 1,500x and then i start losing count of the wins. from December last year ive had over 15 1,000x wins my biggest being 5,018x on book of dead (full screen explorer).anyway 2 months ago i thought the win streak was over until i hit 2 full screen jackpots on reel king with in 2 days, then the 3rd day i got 5 scrolls. then i got a 5 scatter retrigger on dolphins pearl deluxe for 1,500x bonus finished at 1,680x….then last week just blew the doors off! 4 days running i got 400-450x bonus with a lot of 100x bonuses in between. then 2 days ago i load gonzo megaways for another shot as i couldn’t bonus it for the life of me….anyway after a few spins i get a bonus of 450x then 3 spins later got the earthquake feature what paid 330x i withdraw the money and few hours later i find a new casino,deposit £30 load up gonzo megaways again after about 10 spins i get a 5 scatter bonus for 15 spins, i could not believe it when the first spin of the bonus paid 1,550x i thought this is the jackpot, anyway it finished and paid 2,078x inbetween all this ive had reel king megaways bonuses for 500x 600x and 1,040x….ive gambled for 5 years now and this is by far the best year ive ever had.

i play between 40 and £1 spins and im thinking is it time to up the stakes? i cant lose, i know it wont last for ever but its lasted 9 months so far….what would you do? up the stakes and go for it or just keep doing what im doing?

 

also, id love to hear some of your winning straks, as mine is just crazy. ive missed a lot of other wins out as there is just too many to list. i seem to be getting a 1,000x bonus at least once a week, and no, im not a streamer

I would be setting deposit limits on my casinos and reducing my stakes. Increasing stakes could be the worst idea imo.

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Form what I’ve read about a similar situation on here before, you are fucked. You won’t get the winnings and you’ll be lucky to get the deposit back. You can either try and get around it and lie and hope it works (not sure how) or you can explain to them and hope you get the deposit back.

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FreeStyle wrote:

I know a few on here are good with the ins and outs of casino terms and conditions etc.

I have a question regarding verification on LeoVegas.

I’ve been playing there since April 2018, have a net deposit of £850. Never had a withdrawal (mainly due to the reversal option that was there) untill now.

Over 70 deposits and now they ask me for ID etc while holding the withdrawal.

Its not a big withdrawal and I certainly am not depending on the money and not really bothered how long it takes. Just thought that with the new guidelines for casinos they should have had this kind of verification done before now.

Anyone clued up on this?

The problem here is, it’s your first withdrawal. It’s an actual disgrace that they have allowed 70 losing deposits without a question but the moment you try and withdraw, they withhold it. I’m not entirely sure on the regulations around this specifically but I would be making a complaint and contact gambling commission aswell.

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TrickyCorn wrote:

Honest opinion of the recent return

Is it though?

I appreciate what people are saying here in regards to responsible gambling and as a family lad myself I get it.

But there’s two things I’d say here on this.

1 – The ‘honest’ feedback in this thread is tainted by the environment.  Moderation here is heavy and community peer pressure to post only positive feedback is giving a lop sided view of the discussions.  I’ve tried to give feedback here already and been shot down several times because my delivery wasn’t with rainbows and butterflies.  There’s no doubt MANY more who read comments here and don’t waste their time posting anything except positive / reinforcement messages for fear of community backlash or moderation.

2 – We don’t know Steve’s financial situation, so any assumption on capacity to gamble here is all speculation and heresay, likely influenced by our own personal financial situations.  But I will say this : these bonus hunts are great and all, but the format and stakes are generic and dime a dozen out there today.  They are nothing new (indeed, a LOT of mainstreamers out there have already moved past 2/3 quid stakes) and whilst it’s more affordable over the longer term, it also heavily conflicts with the past format of a Bandit video.

I hear Steve is pushing hard to try and put some enthusiasm into these nightly hunts, but it’s a hollow sound.

Maybe it’s just my expectations or my experience with watching his videos in the past couple years, but these videos today just don’t have that excitement factor that made the Bandit the much favoured personality he’s always been known for.

So my ‘honest’ feedback is (and I already know his community will rip me a new one for actually being honest here) is that I find these videos extremely tame, boring, run of the mill, generic and dime a dozen online today.  There’s literally nothing about these videos in the current format that isn’t being done by dozens and dozens of streamers / content creators right now & you can hear it pretty plainly in his voice that it’s not exciting him in the slightest.

People tune into the Bandit for the highs and lows of degen madness he’s known for.

These videos couldn’t be more further away from that format if you tried.

For those of you that are starving for Bandit content and willing to take ANYTHING on offer and be happy with it, good on you.  For the rest of us… these videos are as exciting to watch and watching paint dry and THAT is the ‘honest’ truth.

 

Opinion not truth*.

I do agree with some of what you are saying. Bandit has already said he found it boring and is looking into new ideas on twitter. I still enjoy the content but I would much rather see maybe 2 bonus hunts a week and then a 9-10k higher stake session. Thing is I just want him to do what he wants. When he is playing and doing what he wants then it’s far more enjoyable for me as a viewer. If he sat and played 20p spins on a single slot for an hour I would enjoy it if it’s what he actually wanted to do, as you get the personality of bandit coming through.

The way you constructed this feedback is WAY better than your other post, which is why you got so much hate on it.

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