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There is maths behind the bees.

 

265x is the average swam pop.

After maxing it at 20p i will just call that money lost. Its usually what? 40quid? If you want to count it then feel free.

SO – 40p stake, hive would average  0.4*265 = 106. Therefore, as i like profit, i will increase the stake once the average hive pop will be over 50% of that amount profit. I.E once I am in for 53quid. I do the same level by level.

Thats the math way to do it, not number of bees, thats random (true random). This way the game is beatable, but you have to be bankrolled to go high. As in 40quid a spin high. Thats how the 3 people in the world beating this game are doing it. And it still works.

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Reminds me of a oceans 11 quote – Cause the house always wins. Play long enough, you never change the stakes. The house takes you. Unless, when that perfect hand comes along, you bet big, then you take the house.

 

However yes other streamers follow each other. Its alot easier when its bonus funds every time they deposit with max cashouts for them and losses per month covered up to a certain amount as long as they dont bet more than 5 Euros a spin. Makes you think huh 😉

 

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Some casinos are really relaxed with the spin amounts (Casumo being #1). They realise its small fish in the quest for a big player pool. People are taking the piss with accidental 14 euro spins, they arent hacking the system.

My advice – IF a casino doesnt pay out bonuses because of very strict abuse terms, dont play there. They are only after the money. At least casumo give back.

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IVe had 1500x. Love this game.

 

Fun fact – Its the game BigTime Gaming is MOST proud of. Its their favourite and the bonus model behind it is very unique. I like that they remove the boxes from t he base game in the bonus, it means the base pays big wins one way, and the bonus another with the multipliers. My 2nd bonus i got to 123x, was nuts with 2 x 50xs on the first trigger. Madness. Great game always in doubt

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Agreed, i watched lied on my sofa as Malta is boring when its cold… and i sat up when those tops got close. I had to message on the 2nd “unleashed” buy and called him a dick… as… well… jammy twat isnt he

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Mr B wrote:

I’ve been asked to stay out of this now but for that to happen, you guys and your lack of proof opinions need to do the same. I can pick your posts apart with logic and experience but what’s the point when JB was right ? No one can win this argument because neither can show full proof. I can sit here and make things up, because I see you are doing it. Logics and experience. I can reference examples of fact and solid reasons to not trust the industry.

I can also maintain that “controlled random” is where guaranteed profit comes from as long as players play.

None of what I have said is conspiracy or unfathomable logic.

I won’t be dragged back into this topic unless I see people speaking lies or stating “truths that cannot be proven” or indeed if an insult is insinuated in my direction.

I would love to support the apparent notion that I am unintelligent too. I’m not even going to try and lead anyone to believe otherwise. I’m happy for me as a customer to be seen as abuse worthy scum by the industry but the happiness only qualifies if and when I can speak out about it. Regardless of who tries to call bs on it.

For me, the most telling thing was simply this :

JB got trolled into a ban. After said ban expired, the same member proved they want to troll JB into another ban. Insults were also thrown at me but I was able to circumvent a ban by not falling for the bait and so did JB this time.

No love is lost in the industry, but there’s love among the players.

I can. I work for one of the 3 biggest aggregators of games globally. And im impartial as i own no stake in any casino, and i gamble myself. How do i benefit? I know more here about casino back offices, player management and how casinos “work” than anyone else combined. I know as much on slots as Argyl and Bio, and we MAKE OUR OWN SLOTS. I KNOW HOW IT WORKS. And our staff play on slots. You baffle me. Im not going to stoop to name calling or insults, but the lack of acceptance of another point of view is confusing me. IF you want proof ill show it you. If you want to see source code, we can (If you sign an NDA as this system is worth about 5mil GBP)

Just Basics wrote:

For fucks sake. Just leave it alone you guys…..please.

My god.

Dont ever say i start shit out of nothing again. Cos this shit is over and your starting it all again with sly fucking digs.

Why? I mean wtf are you playing at Argyl and eejit?

All i said was no one knows really how the cogs turn inside online casinos. Including you mateys.

You think on a fucking open tour we are gonna meet the GC heads and game developers that will answer all our questions and be open about everything?

Get a grip lol. I mean cmon!

<span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>This topic is over in my book and i wont be commenting on it again. I will just happily agree to dissagree.</span>

If u cant handle that, then thats your issue. Just stop bringing my name into shit. Jb said this Jb did that. Just leave it now. Thx

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Wtf am i playing at with what? I made no digs, im offering to show you something, in real time, on a live casino, with literal proof of what you are telling me noone has proof of. I dont understand where the dig is, im taking an hour out of my day, and bear in mind for this type of stuff that would cost you £400 if i was to consult on this, to literally help you out with some knowledge and industry information so youll know more about gambling, and maybe itll help you stop. Or control it. Or see the truth behind your comments.

Izattm wrote:

It’s not a debate if you can’t present a logical argument for a particular subject.

Everyone is quite entiltied to have their opinion, however it is of no value to a debate if there are no facts to back it up and is massively innacurate.

I got facts!

@Eightblack – Sure, if we get a few more in so i dont need to do it twice 🙂

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This thread is a UK forum version of what is happening in US politics as we speak. Fake news, bullying, ridiculing, its just amusing.

 

For my 2c, and i dont back up anyone here, this thread and its title are just inappropriate. Anything else from there, you all deserve it.  IT did make me laugh though. So thanks.

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OK im going to do something totally unnecessary and 100% helpful for the forum. And i want call anyone a dick.

 

On the other thread was a post from JB, stating noone is the head of a casino or works in the industry. I do. We build slots, we own casinos, and we sell casino code.

I, for a period of 1 hour at any time this month, if you can decide between you, will SHOW you what the back office of a casino looks like. Ill show you what can and cant be done. Ill show you how players are tracked, how bonuses are given, how the CRM will send you bonuses through segmentation, and stop most of these stupid threads about casinos rigging things. They cant. If they could then 4 of the ones we built last month wouldnt have paid out at a loss.

As for the UKGC – they fined people for GDPR and DPA issues. We have had severe warnings about it. Gambling is super compliant now or else you lose your banking rights. The licence comes 2nd, if you have no bank you cant make money. Getting a bank account in gambling is next to impossible, it takes YEARS at times. And then they close down randomly for the European ones (See SataBank) due to AML reasons.

The real scam in casinos is money laundering. Nooone gives a shit about Joe Bloggs and his 100quid deposit to make them deposit again. They care about the top 5% who pay for the site upgrades so the rest of us can lose a couple of grand.

 

If anyone wants to see let me know, ill create a skype group. But if anyone starts to chat shit in it ill kick them out. You can see and ask questions but no insulting of anyone else. This would be my job, and im not spending it childminding.

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Biohazard wrote:

I’ve read you can win up to 100,000x on this, which obviously won’t happen, but as a listed potential that is huge.

netent finally had a meeting and went high variance. True story. Cant wait to see what they can do with their budgets

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Mr B wrote:

eejit101 wrote:

Mr B wrote:

My post from the ‘other’ thread:

I’m done with this bullshit. I know I am right and will not support the bullshit. Since insults have been thrown and admin have intervened, I have nothing further to say on the subject.

Controlled random. Not quite random but worth taking the piss out of people over. It seems.

I promised Seedy i wouldnt start fires… but dude. Your talking out of your ass. This is like telling airline pilots how to fly planes. When all youve done is watched Top Gun and touched yourself.

Seriously, you talk to people like this KNOWING what has already transpired ? Is it ok for me to respond with the same lack of respect ? I mean, is that what we want for Bandits forum ?

Firstly – you show lack of respect yourself in your replies and amusing edits of people posts. Especially posts people spent a long time doing complex work and maths on creating.

Secondly – What am I “knowing” what has transpired? Am i missing something?

Finally –  You arguing a factual proven point against 4 people who work in the field, and in one case, directly doing the job you are saying isnt true?

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Mr B wrote:

My post from the ‘other’ thread:

I’m done with this bullshit. I know I am right and will not support the bullshit. Since insults have been thrown and admin have intervened, I have nothing further to say on the subject.

Controlled random. Not quite random but worth taking the piss out of people over. It seems.

I promised Seedy i wouldnt start fires… but dude. Your talking out of your ass. This is like telling airline pilots how to fly planes. When all youve done is watched Top Gun and touched yourself.

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I wasnt on it! That wasnt me 😀

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2pm Malta time, so 1pm UK. All day till 7pm i guess.

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Mr B wrote:

Bio, you don’t get to put words in my mouth or dictate anything here. You can try and swerve the agenda being divisive but it won’t work with me.

“This slot is random” – public notice on many slot machines. Moving from a networked physical slot machine with a pc inside, to a pc with a browser window changes what ? Nothing from my point of view.

But at least you are now happily admitting that a bonus is rigged. Either you or agryl stated that every spin is 100% individual and random. For that to be true, they CANNOT be connected by RTP, regardless of how the RTP is fathomed. Random and RTP are not 100% separated. Therefore there IS rigging, in EVERY slot, on EVERY spin. It doesn’t matter if it’s a weighted dice (structured reelset) or not.

Are you understanding EXACTLY what I am saying yet ? I said I’m not paranoid, Please don’t play with that word when talking to me.

This doesnt make full sense. I think i understand what you are saying though.

 

I assume you mean that each spin is a pre-programmed result. The spin “visual ending”, or “happy ending” if you prefer, is programmed. What isnt programmed is the actual odds of hitting that specific “Random number” which will give you that visual representation?

 

If so – You are half correct. Its exactly how its worked. Jammin Jars came under a bit of fire for this for “only” have just under 2million seperate winning visualisations for their game. That doesnt mean the result isnt a randomly selected choice of possible values, its just the image isnt random.

 

Rolling a Dice is random. If its comes up 6 its luck. Just because its the same 6 on the dice as it was last time you rolled it doesnt make it any less random.

 

The Gates point is accurate though. That bonus isnt random. Doesnt matter what symbol you get its already decided. People get skulls more if they are due a “bad bonus” as its easier visually to not put in as many skulls. Its predetermined in advance what it will pay. Only the megaways bonuses are close to random.

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Thanks man. It’s not my channel but we are building their casino.

 

I will.make sure anyone from here gets a special no deposit bonus. You have my word.

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