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Fruity slots you said is genuine? Umm… ok.
Nick, rocknrolla, casinodaddy, the promo girls, jarttu, Rothstein, all 100% played with casino funds.
Casinos have deals with certain slot providers that streamers can play their games and they won’t have to pay them their cut… as it promotes future business.
E.g netent charges 14% for every euro lost on its games. However if it’s a streamer account they charge 0 and they offset the balance.
There are no legal requirements, AML checks, or anything that prevent any casino operating under their licences from paying out over 30k in one sum. I have checked. If they claim otherwise ill send you the UKGC directive on it.
It’s the same as all of the big guys… make them with so they lose it back.
Fruity slots Jamie, today, went to wild swarm, expecting to collect a saved wild swarm.. but it had already paid.
But the bonus had already run, for a grand total of 40 odd quid.. £4 stake… so just over 10x for a 10 spin wild swarm.. !!!!
Luckily it didn’t tilt him because he had a couple of monster wins. but.. jesus.. 10x.. on game that might have taken 3-4k or more, to trigger the swarm……
Easy to not tilt if it’s not your actual cash your playing with…. 😉
As for the post I made I agree with bio- in no way is what I wrote a guaranteed win. I’m just posting the thoughts and facts.
I asked the game provider for the most bees to hit the bonus, they said over 700.
Hey. Jumping in.
I spoke to Push last week, just to ask some questions on this game.
It is 100% planned for people to try and take advantage in this way. The game is set up in 2 stage…
Stage 1 – Hive building. The RTP in this section of the base game and bonuses are a usual 97% or approximate. The game plays as normal, and this is a true reflection of the base game.
Stage 2 – Max Hive. The RTP of the base game drastically lowers. That’s not to say you cant still hit a good win, or a good chest, but as you can see from the bandits videos, he drops only 300x stake at the most on 20p when having approx 2,500 spins to max out the hive. Then all of a sudden he only has 20 bees and is 1.2k down at 4 quid stake. the game mechanics are designed this way on purpose.
Mathematically – The game can be beaten, just, and it depends on when you raise the stakes. Bandit does this a bit randomly, buthe almost sticks to a plan. The game pays out as follows…
Odds on hitting swarm from a single bee drop – 3.3%
Average Stake return per swarm bonus -275x
So from this maths you know when to raise the stakes to guarantee a profit. Say you trigger the max hive and it cost you 40quid to build the hive. You start at £1 stake. Once you are down 150x from starting balance, you increase to 2£. then once down 150x again you keep raising the stakes up.
As long as you trigger before your betting 200£ a spin… your in profit.
Huge variance way of playing but 99% of the time you will profit, and 1% of the time you will lose your hose/wife/legs.
1As a huge muse fan… yeah Uprising isnt the best… ok you have a point. Shit.
Mainly Russian streamers. You think jarttu and those guys have 100k?
One British.
1They add wagering as that money affects their income. They have 100,000 players and they ‘ll win a fiver? That’s big cash. For most casinos that’s a months income (before tax and expenditure).
To the poker post above this… @PaulRud… tour comment is not factual. Over 200000 have poker tracker and HUD software and every single one of them with enough sample size don’t think stars is rigged. I doubt 200k people are a con job.
As for basics… I hate bonus terms also. Some are very badly written (as I pointed out in my main post casinos will try and get your money… just the legal way). But if you owned a casino (and you can… for about £30,000 if you have backing), would you not try and profit?
This is their business, and they are good at it. It’s predatory and gambling. It’s easy money.
What not easy is fixing alot or fixing poker. If it happens or is happening I’ll be truly shocked.
As for my post to begin with, I found 3 new streamers playing on company money last week. That I think is unfair. They gamble in ways not usual and decided in advance by the casino. That’s bad advertising
Another point on pokerstars…
The legal admissions of guilt were for banking offences in regulated markets, improper DPA and player verification, illegal players from USA and not keeping total amount of revenue in player accounts available for use.
At no point was their RNG ever deemed “dodgy”. The pokerstars RNG has access by a total of 3 people. And all of them are checked constantly. A company earning 1.8bil in revenue… trust me… they are checked by fucking everyone. All the time. If we get audited every year… they will have in-house independent testing.
I forgot to check the forum for a week. I started a riot.
In the act of fairness I’ll ignore any stupid comments or conspiracy so far and try and help. Please respond to this and tag me so I’ll answer questions.
1 – my name is Phil. I work for a casino company. We build casinos using our back office platform, and provide them with games payments and services. We have no say in the marketing bonuses or operation of the casinos. We currently have over 35 casinos live for over 22 different companies.
To answer how I see my “proof”, I look. I see the RTP of every game. I can review individual game rounds. I can do this as I have accesses to all back offices on our network. I had to confirm to MGA and UKGC etc with a data protection agreement and pass a test!
2 – the reason I do this is for Years I thought it must be rigged. I have only worked in igaming for 13 months… however I’ve gambled since I was about 14. I sell the casinos, I do demos, i handle complaints from owners, and most Importantly, I see profit and loss each month for all casinos. Every single one of them has had losing months, and the average withdrawals and RTP balances out at around 96%.
Pokerstars- I know a bit about this. I used to play professionally from 2008-2010. Before you ask yes I can show results and my biggest win is 65k$. I agree that it seems rigged at times, but I can’t prove or disprove that. Alot of times I’ve won on stars, I used to profit regularly playing MTT and SNG fields. The 99% comment on losing all in is stupid so I’ll ignore that.
Right – if I missed things (I missed alot) please reply.
I believe Someone asked about RTP but the games aren’t run like that. They are based on individual rounds not collective. Ours are at least.
I agree some used to be rigged but they get found out. The big ones now… no chance. They make 150mil a year legally… and again, I can see game rounds.
Coming soon – blockchain slots. Probably fair gaming. That will change the way you see slots. You’ll have 2k spins on a slot that’s high variance, and then get a 7x bonus, but you’ll be able to SEE the maths through the blockchain. That is going to change everything.
I hope this helps
P.s I gamble, ask bandit. He sees my affil history. I wouldn’t be doing that if I knew it was rigged. I’m here for fun and my original post is 100% factual.
11Is this guy “eejit101” for real? or just trying to be the best at Trolling lol!
Your gonna get yourself into trouble spouting shit like this mate. How have you proved any of your theories in your post? you’ve just listed utter BS
Lets take 1 example of the RNG shall we.
Any system or programme software that has been created like RNG, can be manipulated like fuck! Its hard to do….but it can be, and has been done.
simply put they can rig it!……and they do rig it!
fkin arghhh, you sheep make me so mad sometimes.
I work for a company that sees it. We literally see the results. And if it’s rigged it’s BAD for us… so of course we check.
As for I’m a moron/troll, sure if you want.
OR….
I’m the only person on here who plays and works inside the industry you claim is rigged but still gamble on.
Plus I can type coherently. Maybe that why.
888 shouldn’t let you sign up. Report it to the UKGC and fine them a 7 figure sum. You’ll even get your cash back if your lucky.
Being said it’s impossible to change the GAME rounds of a slot at any casino. The spin results come from the RNG that attaches to each spin and it’s houses off site on servers approved by the UKGC.
11Russia bet won
did anyone take it??Going 50% on a double isnt a win 😉
Today Im going – Portugal, Spain, Uruguay all to win. 1.3/1. It just looks to good odds to not back the favourites all to win vs low ranked teams today.
Also going a Portugal to win, BTTS, Over 2.5 goals, Over 8.5 corners.
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