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[Iz Izattm WANTED $18 Outlaw]

This is pathetic.

Bio I genuinly wouldn’t even respond anymore, any normal person can see that it’s like talking to a brick wall. The fact a thread has been created singling you out speaks volumes about the maturity of a couple of people on here.

Consistently blaming other people for their reactions. The last time I checked everyone has control of their own emotions and actions, but then again we are gamblers and that’s what we do, blame everyone else for our own shortcomings eh?

I hope whoever moderates this forum comes on and shuts this thread down, there’s no need for it, and quite frankly singling someone out in a thread of their own is bullying, but hey ho…

Lets all move on from this farce.

[Iz Izattm WANTED $18 Outlaw]

Genuinly think JB is at the wind up,  Surely….

Beggars belief honestly.

[Iz Izattm WANTED $18 Outlaw]

It’s actually mind boggling that the likes of Mr B and just Basics fail to understand logic and fact. Probably think the world’s flat too eh?

The bookies do this whole RTP throughout all their markets, they need a margin to make money from that’s the whole point on the business.

Let’s dumb it right down to the very very basics..

You flip a coin and it has a 50/50 chance of landing on heads or tails. The bookies arnt going to offer you odds of evens becuase then they arnt going to make any money in the long run. What they do is offer 5/6 for each outcome, therefore creating a margin to make money. Its the same principle for RTP for online slots. I know I’m wasting my time explaining but hey ho get a grip lads.

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DEVIL4POSTER wrote:

Izattm wrote:

No you may place before the game starts upto 30 pounds worth of chips on the board. The more you place the smaller the “pie gamble” becomes. You then hit a 2 pound pie gamble, it lands in the red you lose two pounds, lands in the green then the roullete wheel spins and you get the normal value of any winnings at a 30 quid stake should your number come in.

 

The new roullete is on the machines in store at William Hill now if you wanted to see for yourself. Not that I am tempting you to gamble or anything

If you didn’t mean to tempt others to gamble you wouldn’t have mentioned the rules/structure of the new style roulette at all. Just saying

Just educating people on what’s coming son ?.

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Dune2000 wrote:

Izattm wrote:

No you may place before the game starts upto 30 pounds worth of chips on the board. The more you place the smaller the “pie gamble” becomes. You then hit a 2 pound pie gamble, it lands in the red you lose two pounds, lands in the green then the roullete wheel spins and you get the normal value of any winnings at a 30 quid stake should your number come in.

 

The new roullete is on the machines in store at William Hill now if you wanted to see for yourself. Not that I am tempting you to gamble or anything

Thanks for that – makes sense now, though it still sucks.  It’s basically a slot machine with a pie gamble, and even if you win that pie gamble you still have to hope that you number comes in.   So the machine now has 2 chances to rip you

As someone else said on this site, a pig in a ballgown is still a pig – and that game certainly looks like they are trying to disguise a slot as a roulette machine to sucker the gullible in.

So if you set the pie on max and lose 15 times in a row, normal on a slot, and then it comes in, you have the £30 you have won to play with – which I assume you can even collect or gamble on a roulette wheel, which in essence is just another pie gamble with far more possibility of losing.

i can see how they could make a lot of money out of this, but I really can’t see how the punter is going to max out big.  If he covers two numbers with  £13 it doesn’t really give him a lot to spread across the rest of the board – and we all know how difficult it can be to hit your number even if you have half the damn board covered.

Folloe me on twitter and give me a private message, I will take a video and send you.

Izattm2016

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Dune2000 wrote:

Izattm wrote:

No you may place before the game starts upto 30 pounds worth of chips on the board. The more you place the smaller the “pie gamble” becomes. You then hit a 2 pound pie gamble, it lands in the red you lose two pounds, lands in the green then the roullete wheel spins and you get the normal value of any winnings at a 30 quid stake should your number come in.

 

The new roullete is on the machines in store at William Hill now if you wanted to see for yourself. Not that I am tempting you to gamble or anything

Thanks for that – makes sense now, though it still sucks.  It’s basically a slot machine with a pie gamble, and even if you win that pie gamble you still have to hope that you number comes in.   So the machine now has 2 chances to rip you

As someone else said on this site, a pig in a ballgown is still a pig – and that game certainly looks like they are trying to disguise a slot as a roulette machine to sucker the gullible in.

So if you set the pie on max and lose 15 times in a row, normal on a slot, and then it comes in, you have the £30 you have won to play with – which I assume you can even collect or gamble on a roulette wheel, which in essence is just another pie gamble with far more possibility of losing.

i can see how they could make a lot of money out of this, but I really can’t see how the punter is going to max out big.  If he covers two numbers with  £13 it doesn’t really give him a lot to spread across the rest of the board – and we all know how difficult it can be to hit your number even if you have half the damn board covered.

Once it comes in you cannot collect the 30 pounds, the wheel spins automatically and the bets you had placed with it become active. You could then lose if your numbers miss, or win.

[Iz Izattm WANTED $18 Outlaw]

No you may place before the game starts upto 30 pounds worth of chips on the board. The more you place the smaller the “pie gamble” becomes. You then hit a 2 pound pie gamble, it lands in the red you lose two pounds, lands in the green then the roullete wheel spins and you get the normal value of any winnings at a 30 quid stake should your number come in.

 

The new roullete is on the machines in store at William Hill now if you wanted to see for yourself. Not that I am tempting you to gamble or anything

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Pod001 wrote:

Dune2000 wrote:

Izattm wrote:

Gamblers will just find something else to gamble on. Just as easy to do yer baws in on 2 pound slots and even the new roullete will take a wedge pretty quickly. I tried a demo and lost 60 quid within 3 mins on the new roullete

Won’t really affect me, I am a £50 a spin man – the slots dont interest me and playing £2 a spin on roulette would bore the crap out of me.

I can honestly say that once 1 Apr comes the itch will disappear – its that chance to win £400-£500 on several spins in a row that gets me, or most the time the chance to try and win my money back

Roulette on their new terms is just another slot machine, where if you win the jackpot you wont see it again for 2 weeks

Exactly the same here slots don’t really do it for me on the fobt but roulette did with the quick hit turn around and having £5 upwards on a number is a buzz . Won’t be the same so I won’t go on them anymore

You will still be able to have the equivalent of 13.50 on a number but it will only cost you 2 pounds.

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Dune2000 wrote:

Pod001 wrote:

Same here . Instead of 13 bookies in the town centre there’s gonna end up being one or two . Also will be able to go down and put a football bet on and not lose on the roulette lol

I’m wishing eternal unemployment on every piece of shit stood behind that counter who has watched me lose stacks on the roulette (my own fault)  and as I walk back to top up asks me would I like to raise the maximum bet to £100 a spin.

Those scumbags deserve unemployment – losing is my own dumb fault – offering me the chance to lose faster and bigger is theirs

But harsh, only working to pay the bills mate.

Everyone has a choice to make, if you are offered that then you are in no way obliged to take the offer. Fwiw I don’t ask people.

[Iz Izattm WANTED $18 Outlaw]

Gamblers will just find something else to gamble on. Just as easy to do yer baws in on 2 pound slots and even the new roullete will take a wedge pretty quickly. I tried a demo and lost 60 quid within 3 mins on the new roullete

[Iz Izattm WANTED $18 Outlaw]

That’s pretty much it however, you only ever spend a max of 2 pound per spin. You CANNOT bet above that. Putting more chips on the board just reduces your chance of getting the roullete spin.

If the bandit would like me to send a video of a WH staff tutorial then please email me and I’ll send it over.

[Iz Izattm WANTED $18 Outlaw]

Glad you got your money back. FOBT machines won’t be “gone” you will still be able to play most of your usual slot games etc.

They bring enjoyment to a lot people but obviously there are some people that can’t keep their gambling under control so will then therefor blame whatever they are playing.

You say online slots is so much better but then contradict yourself by saying you can’t do that regularly online. You have gambled in Completly different ways than when you were online compared to instore so I don’t think it’s fair to compare the two on that basis alone.

[Iz Izattm WANTED $18 Outlaw]

It’s not about the damage to your car though, if your at fault and the other person has claimed against your insurance then its about how much the whole process costs to fix their car etc.

I had a minor accident and didn’t get my car fixed however when I got the final letter through from my Insurance company the total cost was around 2k. Madness but it is what it is. I lost my no claims bonus, and hence my premium increased the following year.

I assume you didn’t have your no claims bonus protected? And regardless, if you make a claim your premium is always going to climb the following year. However it pays to shop around and you may find a cheaper premium elsewhere.

As for the charge of change of vehicle, for whatever reason I had the same issue when purchasing a new car. It was smaller but apparantly data showed there were more accidents involving that type of vehicle that the one I was in previous so hence the jump in premium plus the admin charge. It will all be in your Terms and conditions though.

[Iz Izattm WANTED $18 Outlaw]

That’s what GDRP is for, to protect the customer.

[Iz Izattm WANTED $18 Outlaw]

Well that’s what I thought.

Had you been depositing several hundred/thousand they would be within their rights to ask for source of wealth.

Casinos and bookies have been punished in the past for not following up these sources of wealth so I can see why they are now taking a more hard line approach. At the end of the day if someone hasn’t got anything to hide then the won’t mind providing source of income.

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