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eejit101 wrote:

Evolution games and tables are tested both in house – and by authorities on a regular basis. They are 100% legit.

As for streams of same colours coming in, at a Grosvenor casino in blackpool when I worked there i saw 27 Red numbers in a row at one occasion, with no green or black at any time, and the next week i saw 14 (fourteen) middle column hits in a row. Thats mad!

As for conspiracy and the 2nd card guy, i saw the video, and thats a dodgy fucking casino doing this, with a non-regulated market and a non-regulated live casino. Yeah they will try and scam if they can. But how do we know its not just a clickbait video designed by a casino or affiliate for traffic through the links. “Look at this dodgy shit, for a real casino experience play here…”

Evolution isnt rigged as they also produce company accounts each year, its a traded company, they will show their spins, RTP, P&L, full reporting if you just google it all. The wheels pay out at the right amount.

 

 

Preach @eejit101, its nice to see some more logic being applied to the topic.

Ah when did you used to work at Blackpool Grosvenor? That was always my favourite stop dealing the GUKPT and 25/25 Series due to always having a good laugh in the Pool and going out for a few drinks. Plus, the old cardroom manager Tania was always a pleasure to work with..

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brizman wrote:

What i don’t get is people that say..’there is no need for casinos to rig games’. There is..GREED AND MONEY

Well there was no reasons for banks to rig interest rates..or company’s to rig test results to sell cars..or mp’s to fudge expenses. I’m afraid cheating goes on in everday life. Mostly at the highest level. If you think that there is no possibility that casinos rig or tamper outcomes to get more money, then that is just naive.

You are correct, anywhere where money is involved there is the possibility for corruption as human beings are greedy by nature.

Don’t get me wrong, if you’re playing at some dodgy online casino that isn’t licenced and regulated in the UK by the gambling commission and the MGA or some back alley casino in Eastern Europe where you’re likely to wake up in a bathtub full of ice with a kidney missing on your way home anyway; then yes, I’m sure in some places fair practice isn’t upheld to the same standard. However, if you’re playing at anywhere reputable where you should be spending your money and most of us do, it simply doesn’t happen.

Cheating goes on within casinos, and every instance I have witnessed first hand and heard about has been a player exploiting the house for an unfair edge or stealing from the casino. Occasionally a dealer or member of staff colluding with a player. However aside from a few very sketchy YouTube videos that do not prove anything; if you try and Google an instance where a reputable casino has been caught rigging a game, its just not a thing.

@Biohazard summed this up as I was in the process of replying, very effectively.

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Just Basics wrote:

So your saying theres a chance….

There would be more chance of me fingering Rachel Riley tonight or winning the lottery 10 consecutive times in a row.. But yeah sure, a chance.

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Just Basics wrote:

joshnadin wrote:

Hi @Jamezwww,

I’ve worked in land based casinos for many years, the live tables online weather it be blackjack, roulette or any other table game are in no way different to going into your local casino; and they are definitely not rigged. As @Biohazard said, there is no need for the casinos to rig these games due to the house edge being in the casinos favour. Every table game is thoroughly vetted for accuracy and fairness by the gambling commission and other regulatory bodies and it wouldn’t be worth it for the casinos reputation for it to get out that something untoward was going on.

I must have span a roulette wheel tens, if not hundreds of thousands of times; and just like @sidders said, its human nature to recognise patterns when sometimes they just aren’t there. Some of the outcomes do seem just plain weird and as if something is going on, however every spin is entirely random and independent from any of the previous results. Some nights I could hit the same numbers and sections for hours, some nights every spin was all over the place.

What about that Jamaican card dealer that got caught cheating by taking the 2nd card instead of the top one live on an online casino?

Do we just say hey ho…well thats just one instance of rigging?

Gimme a break.

 

Can’t say I’ve seen the clip of the specified card dealer taking the second card instead, but yes; I would say that is just one instance of ‘rigging’.

You would have to be rain man in order to successfully rig a deck of cards, both to have the physical skill to do so and the memory to recall one out of a possible near infinite possibilities of knowing which card is where in the deck; there are more atoms on the earth than different ways a deck of cards can be shuffled. The most skilled croupiers and dealers I know would never be able to recreate any instance of a game being rigged in such a way to benefit the casino or punter. It sounds to me like a poorly trained dealer and the instance comes down to human error and likely incompetence.

Plus, 99% of online and land based casinos now use auto shufflers to speed the game up and avoid any such instances.

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Hi @Jamezwww,

I’ve worked in land based casinos for many years, the live tables online weather it be blackjack, roulette or any other table game are in no way different to going into your local casino; and they are definitely not rigged. As @Biohazard said, there is no need for the casinos to rig these games due to the house edge being in the casinos favour. Every table game is thoroughly vetted for accuracy and fairness by the gambling commission and other regulatory bodies and it wouldn’t be worth it for the casinos reputation for it to get out that something untoward was going on.

I must have span a roulette wheel tens, if not hundreds of thousands of times; and just like @sidders said, its human nature to recognise patterns when sometimes they just aren’t there. Some of the outcomes do seem just plain weird and as if something is going on, however every spin is entirely random and independent from any of the previous results. Some nights I could hit the same numbers and sections for hours, some nights every spin was all over the place.

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Calumjay18 wrote:

Hi all, long time watcher of the bandit newish to the site ?

Hi @Calumjay18,

Welcome mate! Make sure to get involved around here, there’s always loads going on to keep you entertained 🙂

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Hi @JohnnyO

I have had an issue with this in the past where certain casinos are unhappy paying out to another deposit method.

Your old card always remains connected and registered to the associated bank account, so even if a payment is processed to your old card this will still find its way to the same bank account that was connected to it. I have done this with both RBS and Barclays and can confirm this works. That’s if they are happy paying out to the old card of course.. 🙂

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The Bandit wrote:

Rachel Riley. Kaboom.

Jesus Rachel Riley.

I would drag my balls across broken glass just to hear her fart through a walkie talkie. Probs drink her bath water too..

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I know the feeling man, too many times when I was 18-19 did I do my absolute plums on a FOBT in a bookies. For some reason, all sense and logic seems to disappear when you’re just feeding the wretched things. You walk out and feel like you’ve been slapped in the face and don’t really know whats gone on apart from having an empty wallet.

I’ve not played on a FOBT of any kind for years since getting into playing slots online instead. Now I understand how they work I can’t comprehend putting money into them when they have a max payout of £500 when I can play a larger selection of slots online, with a higher RTP, and can win much, much more than £500 for staking the same amount per spin. I also think its much easier to set up your responsible play limits online before playing, and for some strange reason I can lose £100 online and walk away where playing in the bookies seems much harder to leave; strange huh..

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Hi Hacko1,

From past experience with this when I have lost an old card and casinos are refusing to pay anything to any other deposit method until my withdrawal amount reaches my net deposit amount; your old debit card no matter even if it is expired or cancelled remains linked and connected to your bank account. This means that even if refunds or payments are processed to an old card, you will still receive the funds in the same account that your new card is linked to. This has been the case with me with both RBS and Barclays so I am assuming that the majority if not all banks will have the same procedure in place.

I suppose this may vary depending on the casino and bank so if you have any doubts I would hit up Live Chat and give your bank a quick call to clarify.

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Good old Captain Bob eh?!

As with most Novomatics, Captain Venture is really high variance and the base game doesn’t seem to pay much which means it can quickly eat your balance. As all the wins are x3 in the feature I find the big wins come from the amount you get for all the re-triggers and a few decent hits here and there.

I’m usually pretty lucky with this slot personally, here’s an old picture of a near 1000x win for me after a mountain load of spins!

 

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Thisgirl2019 wrote:

joshnadin wrote:

Thisgirl2019 wrote:

Hi! I’m also new!

Welcome Thisgirl2019! Hope you have as much fun here as I’m having already!

Also, thanks to all the rest of the guys for the warm welcome

Trying to keep my 4 year gambling free record going but recent difficulties make it so tempting to go back! Eeekkkk!

Huge congrats on being gambling free for 4 years!

If you’re having a tough time at the moment there is a really useful section on here with some tips on responsible gambling, feel free to check it out. If you would like any advice I’m happy to chat with you and the other guys here seem more than helpful too.

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Thisgirl2019 wrote:

Hi! I’m also new!

Welcome Thisgirl2019! Hope you have as much fun here as I’m having already!

Also, thanks to all the rest of the guys for the warm welcome 🙂

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Malkychamp wrote:

joshnadin wrote:

Malkychamp wrote:

Welcome josh. Sounds like an awesome job you got, have you any crazy bad beat stories you have seen or any from encounters with pro players we may have heard of?

Hi Malky, thanks mate!

Of course, I have all kinds of bad beat stories; players hate me sometimes with the cards I can put out! The worst thing I ever saw whilst dealing was in a £1200 buy in event; so not a cheap amateur tournament. The board ran out K,K,A,K,K so quads with an ace kicker in the middle of the table, it was heads up at the river where player 1 went all in; player 2 tank’s for 5 minutes and then folds?!?! Somehow, player 2’s thought process at the time was he didn’t understand that no matter what hole cards he held; it was impossible for this not to be a chop pot; sigh.

In regard to the pro players, I know and deal to pretty much all of them. Sometimes at events we manage to get out for drinks with them every now and again as directly tipping is forbidden in most countries outside of the UK as this opens up collusion possibilities so they show their appreciation by pretty much letting the dealing staff have a free bar! Some of the big names I can name drop are Daniel Negreanu, Phil Ivey, Igor Kurganov (that’s me and him in my profile avatar), Phil Helmuth, John Juanda, Erik Siedel, Liv Boeree, Fedor Holz, pretty much any sponsored pro that plays EPT’s and WSOP’s. The tours also attract lots of celebrities, at my table I’ve had Kevin Hart, Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul from Breaking Bad, Neymar Jr, Gerard Piqué, David Haye, Rafael Nadal and Sergio Garcia to name a few.

I always lose my shit and panic when I get the big names at my table, especially if the event is televised/streamed for the world to see you mess up. I’m always sat there like ‘Josh, you got this. Do not f**k this up!’

Oh dear haha. Well he really shouldn’t have been in that tourney if he didnt know that. Heard of pretty much all of them do they act the same on the off camera tables? I learnt to play poker by watching hours on end couldnt get enough of it when i was younger. I may have even seen you on tv before lol. We had a poker tournament on pokerstars from people off here on sunday get yourself involved if your free sundays. Not sure when next one is but check out the community poker thread on here if you fancy it.

Very true! I could understand it in a low buy in however in one that costs over a grand it was a little painful to witness.. Yep you have likely seen me if you ever watch the EPT on Channel 4, at least my hands occasionally!

Ah that’s awesome! I’ll be sure to check out the thread later and get involved, cheers man.

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