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Good luck at the hospital @benq99. I hope you manage to get it sorted.

I have high bp and i’m on Ramipril for life, but nothing as severe as the numbers you are showing.

You’ve had a shit time of late with your mothers passing and now this.

I wish you well mate.

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argyl53 wrote:

Mickeyvondickey wrote:

argyl53 wrote:

I appreciate that mate. I didn’t try to antagonise or bait anyone, it was a sincere question and i thought Argyl might be the man to ask. A simple “yes, that’s close to correct” would have sufficed much like Bio said in his reply (btw, thanks Bio).

I just thought a little courtesy might come into play from someone that has helped him out in the past. Evidently not the case.

I rarely look at names of when I reply. You’re more than welcome to your £25 back, by the way, as I offered at the time – ping me an email and it’s done. But there is no straightforward yes or no answer to your question. Yes, slot games are random if by random you mean every possible outcome has an equal chance of occurring on every spin and it’s not influenced by previous spins, or money in/out etc. No they’re not random if you mean random as in “the radioactive decay of a particle is random”.

Thank you for the reply and answer, that clears it up.

And no, as indicated at the time, i do not expect the money back. I’m happy to help out. If people who are more knowledgeable on a subject than me could help me out from time to time, that would also help.

Okay well bear in mind unless you have a particularly distinctive avatar like Bio does, I don’t know who you are when I’m replying because most of the time I haven’t read the name on the post. It’s not like I saw your name and thought I’d tell you to sod off, I’m just genuinely tired of explaining this subject so many times and so when someone asks and tags my name, I assume (wrongly in this case) it’s just to wind me up.

I didn’t realise you don’t read the names of people you reply to but i will certainly bear that in mind in future. Thanks again for the reply. Have a good evening.

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argyl53 wrote:

I appreciate that mate. I didn’t try to antagonise or bait anyone, it was a sincere question and i thought Argyl might be the man to ask. A simple “yes, that’s close to correct” would have sufficed much like Bio said in his reply (btw, thanks Bio).

I just thought a little courtesy might come into play from someone that has helped him out in the past. Evidently not the case.

I rarely look at names of when I reply. You’re more than welcome to your £25 back, by the way, as I offered at the time – ping me an email and it’s done. But there is no straightforward yes or no answer to your question. Yes, slot games are random if by random you mean every possible outcome has an equal chance of occurring on every spin and it’s not influenced by previous spins, or money in/out etc. No they’re not random if you mean random as in “the radioactive decay of a particle is random”.

Thank you for the reply and answer, that clears it up.

And no, as indicated at the time, i do not expect the money back. I’m happy to help out. If people who are more knowledgeable on a subject than me could help me out from time to time, that would also help.

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PsychicSnail wrote:

Mickeyvondickey wrote:

Mickeyvondickey wrote:

argyl53 wrote:

@Argyl – clear something up for me here mate about this whole random issue.

Either something is True or it is not True.

Either there is a god or there isn’t a god.

Either something is random or it is not random.

I can’t be bothered. I’ve explained the mechanics of how slots and computer randomization work in excruciating detail dozens of times on this forum. It’s just bait, so that if I say they’re random someone can pop up and quibble that computers are not true Turing machines and therefore not random in the manner of e.g. radioactive decay of a particle. It’s not fucking relevant. They are sufficiently random. They produce statistically random results. No spin is influenced by the outcome of any previous spin, or who you are, or how much you’ve put in, or how much has been paid out. The outcome is not determined by the precise time of day. It’s not fucking complicated to understand.

It was a genuine question. Not bait, stirring or otherwise. Yeah, don’t fucking bother. I wish i hadn’t bothered chucking you £25 when you were short last year. Unappreciative prick.

Prick might be abit harsh but unappreciative nonetheless.

To be fair Mickey, Argyl has been banging on about this almost every month for the past two years at least. There have been so many planks arguing that slots are not “random”, misunderstanding the meaning of “sufficiently random”, that I’m not surprised he’s sick of the subject.

The confusion is mostly caused by the fact that a spin / bonus outcome is predetermined, which when taken at face value, suggests that it can’t be random. And at that point, those with less grey matter stop thinking, and hence come to the wrong conclusion.

So this wasn’t a personal attack, he’s just a bit fed up with it all.

I appreciate that mate. I didn’t try to antagonise or bait anyone, it was a sincere question and i thought Argyl might be the man to ask. A simple “yes, that’s close to correct” would have sufficed much like Bio said in his reply (btw, thanks Bio).

I just thought a little courtesy might come into play from someone that has helped him out in the past. Evidently not the case.

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Mickeyvondickey wrote:

argyl53 wrote:

@Argyl – clear something up for me here mate about this whole random issue.

Either something is True or it is not True.

Either there is a god or there isn’t a god.

Either something is random or it is not random.

I can’t be bothered. I’ve explained the mechanics of how slots and computer randomization work in excruciating detail dozens of times on this forum. It’s just bait, so that if I say they’re random someone can pop up and quibble that computers are not true Turing machines and therefore not random in the manner of e.g. radioactive decay of a particle. It’s not fucking relevant. They are sufficiently random. They produce statistically random results. No spin is influenced by the outcome of any previous spin, or who you are, or how much you’ve put in, or how much has been paid out. The outcome is not determined by the precise time of day. It’s not fucking complicated to understand.

It was a genuine question. Not bait, stirring or otherwise. Yeah, don’t fucking bother. I wish i hadn’t bothered chucking you £25 when you were short last year. Unappreciative prick.

Prick might be abit harsh but unappreciative nonetheless.

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argyl53 wrote:

@Argyl – clear something up for me here mate about this whole random issue.

Either something is True or it is not True.

Either there is a god or there isn’t a god.

Either something is random or it is not random.

I can’t be bothered. I’ve explained the mechanics of how slots and computer randomization work in excruciating detail dozens of times on this forum. It’s just bait, so that if I say they’re random someone can pop up and quibble that computers are not true Turing machines and therefore not random in the manner of e.g. radioactive decay of a particle. It’s not fucking relevant. They are sufficiently random. They produce statistically random results. No spin is influenced by the outcome of any previous spin, or who you are, or how much you’ve put in, or how much has been paid out. The outcome is not determined by the precise time of day. It’s not fucking complicated to understand.

It was a genuine question. Not bait, stirring or otherwise. Yeah, don’t fucking bother. I wish i hadn’t bothered chucking you £25 when you were short last year. Unappreciative prick.

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argyl53 wrote:

Rbreen91 wrote:

argyl53 wrote:

Kamil19871 wrote:

How stupid you re all if believe in RANDOM the r no way to mąkę a random generator, all is software, random can be a kwantum cpu with software, not a server with fake random generator, The r no 100% random generator in this planet:)

How stupid are you to believe a software-based cryptographically secure pseudo random number generator utilising random device noise isn’t going to generate statistically random results which satisfy the next bit test and cannot be state compromised?

You’re stupid, you believe in RANDOM.

It is interesting though, the way every now and then you get someone popping their head up and going oh they’re not technically random, computers can’t do random. For any doubters out there, it’s sort of right and sort of wrong. Computers are able to generate unpredictable, statistically random, unbiased results which are entirely suitable for applications like shuffling a virtual deck of cards or producing results of slot spins. They are sufficiently random; they are random short of splitting hairs on the semantics of the word random.

@Argyl – clear something up for me here mate about this whole random issue.

Either something is True or it is not True.

Either there is a god or there isn’t a god.

Either something is random or it is not random.

All of the above are direct negations of each other and only one can be correct. Would you agree?

Something can not be “sufficiently” true. It is either true or it is not. There is no middle ground.

 

Is what you’re saying is that it’s technically not random but as close as it possibly could be given that RNG’s are ultimately man made.

Sorry to bring this up again by the way.

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Superb run laddie! ?

Out of interest, there was one gamble ladder on Millionaire Mystery Box that had an insanely high top. I think it was 117k, or possibly 171k. I think it donked first press.

How high do you reckon you would have gone before collecting? OoOossss… the possibilities…

Could have blown any RK top out of the water that one. Some serious stones needed there!

All the best pal. ?

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Did you try Casinomeister as suggested above? I’m not saying they’re amazing but they are a recognised arbitration service. You could ask to issue a PAB if the casino is taking the piss. Best of luck!

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So sorry for your loss Joe. Take care.

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Stephyr wrote:

Anyone know what’s bandits twitch name is? I believe there’s a couple of streams on there?

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Seyahkram1977 wrote:

Mickeyvondickey wrote:

Fruit machines of old were ‘compensated’ and set to pay out when x amount of money was put through them. There were tell tale signs of when this would likely happen and some people could make a really good living out of it by being pretty knowledgeable, to the point wherr they knew the internal workings on the machines themselves. Check out OnABucket on YT. He’s pretty clued up.

Bar flys in my pub ( in my youth) would say the minute you heard the pound drop to the floor … there was a certain “ fall to floor sound it made “ and the fuckers would buzz around it

Yep, same here mate. If a machine was “dropping” every fucker would have their wallets out! Ha

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Fruit machines of old were ‘compensated’ and set to pay out when x amount of money was put through them. There were tell tale signs of when this would likely happen and some people could make a really good living out of it by being pretty knowledgeable, to the point wherr they knew the internal workings on the machines themselves. Check out OnABucket on YT. He’s pretty clued up.

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Bandit was a goat herder in his native Lichtenstein. His massive hands meant he was super efficient at pumping goats milk. In the late 90’s he and his parents came over on a dinghy and that dinghy was the first item to go on sale in his tat shop, set up in the seaside town of Rhyl, North Wales. He frequented the local arcades on his lunch breaks where he learnt the ins and outs of fruit machines. He then met his mate Dave who planted trees for the local forestry commission and aquired the nickname Seedy.

The rest is history….

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