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Is that a compilation of stolen footage ?

 

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As I said on another thread, Mystery Reels was shite when i played it, taking dickhead spins to pay fuckall and eventually bonus paying just enough to buy enough bullets to shoot the damn slot twice. I gambled the 8 spins and same as bandit, lost and got 4.

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I have a question or two for Casumo Andy.

Is the RTP per machine shared by any other players like it should be or is it per player ?

Casinos were allowed to change the RTP within legal limits, is this still true with virtual slots ?

To some people the answers seem obvious, while others have wondered.

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Those who say the casinos dont care.. This just came in last year…
They don’t care.

If a player deposits more than 50% of his monthly net income – they get flagged.
I have never once told any casino employee what my income is and data protection means they would have to break the law to know without asking.

If a player mentions suicide, depression, or similar onlive chat – they are offered a suspension and an inhouse team calls them up. (This costs them hundreds of thousands a year to manage)
£14,000,000,000 per year – £1,000,000 per year =  “don’t hurt yourself” (to paraphrase bandit)

If a player shows history of raising stakes over a certain level after losses, they are phoned up and asked very stringent questions about their playing style and what they earn.
Again, this has NEVER happened to me but then I don’t know what the levels are.

Honestly – what the hell else can they do? Between customers saying they rig the games (not possible), not demanding bonsues or money back (lol), to death threats, blame, shouting, and an occasional lost password request, what else can they actually do?
Why so angry and what’s with the “lol” ?

They restrict signups to 18. They restrict deposit amounts until verified over 2k. They restrict cashouts for AML. They restrict bank cards to ensure no laundering. They restrict bet sizes and play levels for you if you ask. You can time out, ban, self exclude, set max limits for the day, and now they have teams to call you up to check you arent hanging from a bridge.
And when they find numerous people hanging from bridges, they ALWAYS walk away in profit. (pro rata – I think is the right term)

Is there much more they can do? If there is tell me and ill bring it up.
You’re welcome.

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@ligarr that is in the very least a good start. As opposed to the mess that exists now where it’s a free for all. Joe who has thousands of his own money is tagged for [possibly] money laundering a £50 withdrawal while Jane blows her family food budget for the month goes unnoticed or cared for.

@bigbucks1983 – to your first question, had you read the whole thread as you claim, you would know the answer, which is no.

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Dune2000 wrote:

Mr B wrote:

It truly does come across as if the industry doesn’t give a flying [bleep]. I mean, they don’t.

Not sure it is there problem or whether it actually should be.   That sounds harsh, but fast cars cause road deaths, fast food causes obesity and diabetes, alcohol causes liver damage, tobacco causes inestimable damage.

It’s all out there for the taking, where do you stop child minding.

Once people strode the world like giants, inventing, exploring and if they screwed up they took it on the chin.  These days if they trip over a crack in the pavement because they weren’t looking where they were walking they immediately scream whose fault was that, it wasnt mine

If people want to gamble, gamble – if they don’t want to gamble, don’t gamble.   But they need to take responsibility for their actions and stop taking the modern approach of looking for someone else to blame.   Sure it’s an illness like alcoholism and drug addiction, there is help out there.

If they don’t decide to avail themselves of that help, that is their choice, but taking the easy way out as, everyone will be sorry when I’m gone, is not the answer, and it certainly isn’t the fault of a service provider – its personal choice and the responsibility lies squarely with them.

KYC supposedly means among other things, to prevent suffering due to addicted gambling. If you walk into [casino] and tell the manager, you are gambling the kids food money, he is supposed to have you removed. If you tell him after [casino] has gained the kids food, your kids starve. Believe it or not, both happens, one more than the other.

I don’t know what the solution is, but the current one is poor.

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Argyl, they don’t need 75 different types of ID, they do need to care when someone gets in too deep. Imagine some bookies have multiple deaths to profit from in the next week alone.

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whoswho wrote:

What’s strange is the person who agreed with mr B/stuck up for him, has only ever posted one time and that one time happened to defend me B.

Are they one in the same?

I’m every slim shady, including you. If you think I need to self validate on a forum owned by someone I respect enough to be honest and truthful, you’ve missed the boat. Sure, it’s completely possible for staff here to see what IP each user is logged in with but it’s not rocket science to have two different connections. I’m afraid you’ll have to either take me at my word or think I am that shallow when it comes to a debate as serious as this.

I could create an account here that has the same username as you. But that would be truly childish.

Izattm wrote:

I am beginning to give up on Mr B. The irony in his posts is unbelievable, on one hand saying everyone should be open minded and take Into account every factor etc, yet on the other hand he fails to even acknowledge other people’s views an opinions, by claiming they are narrow minded. How he cannot see his original post was suggestive, at best, is beyond me. The fact that he has posted that he takes “no blame” for the fact his thread has gone off topic just seals the deal for me.

If the following image is what you got from post one, then please do give up on me.

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Yes Malky however, studying the merits of the opening post makes that pretty obvious. But I don’t want that to come across as being smug or smart at this point where it feels we are at a humble place on the subject. I had a sarcastic thought yesterday about how the CS was probably wearing mr blobby socks and how that could have been deduced as the big issue. The now side issue of course is the merits found in the opening post warrant gambling suicide as of course being the leading issue, by far.

I think we who wish to, should raise awareness as opposed to just waiting until it happens. It happens [once is too much] often. It truly does come across as if the industry doesn’t give a flying [bleep]. I mean, they don’t.

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Malkychamp wrote:

Apologies in advance for continuing to post here. I know you never blamed the casino or anyone else in thr post, i think the trouble has stemmed from not really being clear on what you were getting at in the first place. As there was no real explanation along with the chat with CS I (we) can only reply based on what we have read. So after initially reading we have to make our own assumption as to what is meant by it which clearly everyone has viewed in a way you never intended. Now i can see the point you were trying to get at but only after several additional posts. A littled extra information added at the bottom of the chat would have been very helpful for me atleast to know what you were getting it from the get go. Hope this makes sense and have a great day ???

Just to be clear, what point do you think was aimed at ?

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God green, I hope they are both male. I mean, Rolla looks male and bandit sounds male.

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I have two options here. I write :

The problem with robotic analogy is they follow a script which is ironic here. The problem with non-robitic analogy is sometimes they are calculated badly. The problem with me saying I won’t be back is noticing that someone has completely ignored the very last thing I said and still posted naturally wanting me to break what I have said.

Seriously, if you want to think clinically, sometimes it requires outside the box thinking because not everything is ‘on the script’ or within the confines of self earned knowledge and experience.

The most difficult thing about thinking clinically, is to embrace EVERY possible factor going that is relevant and give each factor it’s own merit. You know, man gets clubbed with a baseball bat because other man stepped on his toe accidentally, but that man wasn’t looking where he was going because he was not focusing on such a simple thing as walking because something valid had distracted him. Everyone involved, plays their part.

I can do this for another 30 years but I really struggle to take people seriously when they can’t fucking read and make things up :

At no point did anyone say the casino is 100% to blame. At no point and again, I see the puns and limited thinking about people taking responsibility for themselves but like I said, everyone involved, plays their part.

Or I don’t. I’d have to be a full on lunatic to say “so I won’t.”

So this message is for JB – so I won’t.

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Of course, it is a very important issue which is the only reason I posted it, with permission of the person who wrote to the CS. Rest assured I won’t be going back saying to the person that they treated the CS unfairly since the CS wasn’t personally blamed or thought of to be at fault and in fact is the only person who could be spoken to about the issue.

Think about it for a moment. If you go to CS with an issue and they can deal with it, they do, good or bad outcome regardless. If they can’t, they escalate it.

Now personally, I think the CS should have escalated the issue. I have no idea if that was done. I have no judgment against the CS.

However, given how bad the issue is, on a daily basis, it’s good to see the issue isn’t being fully swept under the rug. It is indeed a vary dark place and could do with more people supporting the issues of problem gambling from all aspects.

This is my last post on this thread since it was a complete failure, which I take zero blame for. I won’t be reading any further comments on it and I can see the puns on other threads already.

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Eightblack, I dunno if you noticed but this thread subject matter isn’t about me. The opening post doesn’t state it’s about me. I haven’t hinted allured or begged anyone to think it’s about me. It’s…. shock horror, about the subject matter which turned personal because people thought it was about the CS when clearly it isn’t about him/her or blaming them.

Is it possible that we have gone completely off track here for the wrong fucking reasons ? Take a look through the thread, at least one person noticed and tried to tell you all, what is 100% clear to see.

The names of the two people in the chat log and the name of the casino have been deliberately removed. There’s no high horse, just a bunch of people completely missing the thread point.

PsychicSnail wrote:

Mr B. has nothing to be ashamed of and should not attract pity or be seen as stupid in what he has said. It’s a perfectly understandable reaction when he has seen first hand the effects of gambling addiction and how the faceless establishment reacts to it.

Now sure, the casinos are businesses and it is their duty to take as much money as possible whilst at the same time paying nodding attention to “responsible gambling”. It would be naive to expect them to do any more than this. But as a punter and a normal human being with all the empathy that comes with it, it’s hard not to be angered by the situation.

I agree that Mr B should probably focus his energy into more constructive ways of changing the status quo, but totally understand his anger. Please don’t beat up on him.

 

I am glad someone could see it.

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So i guess we can’t avoid making this personal and judgmental then.

Tatty bye then.

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