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You realise if you look at my reply above, you can clearly see YOUR problem.

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Each individual spin is absolutely unique and independent from all of the others.

Absolute you say. This 100% random lie needs to stop.

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I literally woke up and got up TWANNNNNNG my back went again. I’m in 4/10 constant pain knowing it will settle and disappear in a few days. However I just binged on a chocolate after a cup of tea and now I have trapped wind which is slowly finding it’s way out. I am not very fit at all after years of illness.

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I give in. I have defined rigged. RTP is the boss, random is a slave to it. The end.

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I sometimes spent slot time thinking how much the wife and children meant to me. I don’t think I ever objectified them.

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You see Haz. Your hope is genuine, not tied to profit, not rigged.

The business model is the opposite.

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Ok Bio, give us an example of a truly random pick bonus on a slot. Also, give proof it is 100% random.

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The answer is 100% yes. Don’t let anyone try to confuse you. Profit dictates the outcome, random plays a sub part. The industry will want you to think otherwise. Profit is the boss. Not random.

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I give in. I have defined rigged, they are rigged to the RTP which is the boss and random is a slave to it. The end.

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The fact that RTP/Profit governs random. I say it does, you won’t.

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You’ve screwed the pooch now D4P. Wow, that’s close to DTP. You’re the resident photoshopper now. Good job !

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Rigged : meaning someone has added rigging, ropes or controls, levers. Rigged. Random means no control.

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argyl53 wrote:

In reference to “Dragon’s Den”, if the business model was “it’s a coin toss at £1 a go but if you win you get £1.80 not £2”, that would be a profitable business to invest in with a 10% house edge / 90% long term RTP. But it’s still completely random and not rigged.

and again you have stopped random, changed the prizes and then let random work after. Random isn’t involved until the coin is tossed thus RTP comes first. I’m not sure how much more simple and clear it can be put.

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argyl53 wrote:

In reference to Mr B’s rather unusual definition of rigged, my position was that you imagine a bet on the outcome of a (fair and entirely random) roll of a dice, where numbers 1-4 pay nothing, 5 is money back and 6 is 2.5 times your bet back.

That game can in no way be accused of being rigged under any sensible definition, yet it is a profit yielding game for the vendor with a mere 58% long term RTP. It is also exactly how online slots work, just a much more simplified example, equivalent to a single reel, single win line slot.

 

See Argyl, how I defined it is just normal to me, not unusual. However….. the similarity in your dice game is that you have dictated the RTP with the prizes which is done before any random comes into play thus agreeing with me that RTP is the boss. You set the RTP / prize fund and then let random do it’s thing. It doesn’t matter how much of the “game” a RNG is allowed to play with, the RTP is still head cheer leader.

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Yes that is pretty much it @ gunner

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