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awesomex wrote:

Malkychamp wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I have no current experience or training in working in this field but something i regularly look at while browsing. Even moving for a year and see how or if i like it always got a place to come back too ?

As for the downsides i rarely eat and melt in the sun anyway ??

Just make sure you have some savings when you go. A lot of these companies say they’ll pay your first 2 weeks stay and pay your flights and stuff, but there are usually some conditions to this stuff, including you having to pay it back over time, and if you find out after a month that this isn’t for you, you’ll be stuck down there, as they’ll just keep your wages for flight reimbursement and shit. It’s the same with all CS jobs. If you have the patience to be the bitch for a year, it might be a good move for you. But you have to count on only being social with the idiots you work with, who all think they’re better than you, and will stab you in the back as soon as a promotion is on the table.
Customer Service is a toxic industry. Not only do you have to deal with complaints all day long while being nice about it, you’re also gonna have to deal with the spoiled dipshits who think their shit dont stink.
Think long and hard about this before you go.

Having dealt with many CS staff over the years, this truly sounds about right. Some CS are blatantly broken as far as being human goes.

in fact as a few people on here say they have experience as a CS and for arguments sake, let’s say they are good people and good CS. I’m not surprised they are upset with being treated like shit but I am also not surprised they get treated like shit simply because they struggle to realise they are sometimes dealing with customers who are not only pissed off with the service they receive but have been pushed from pillar to post, lied to, laughed at and treated like shit by their fellow colleagues.

For example, it’s not bad enough to have no or very slow internet for a month from the branson range but to realise that you are being charged for fibre broadband and receiving intermittent dial up with 6 separate sessions of calling up to resolve the issue, getting disconnected from the calls to have to call back and speak to someone else and re-explain for the third time just to get to apparently the right person for it to sometimes get disconnected again to then try again to find that person too didn’t log any of your issue and they then lie that they can’t see who last accessed your account so in total of the month you have spent about 4 hours trying to solve an issue that you have been tested for to see if it’s your fault, have not been offered any money back or compensation while you in fact work for the company in being part of solving their issue for them, possibly been laughed at and most likely lied to and know you would have snapped and hurt someone had the call taken place face to face. And… breaaaaaaathe.

Yea, some CS are scum. They know they are scum. But it pays the bills.

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Dune2000 wrote:

Mr B wrote:

Oh now you have the job, you have to do some morally reprehensible things otherwise you lose said job and you and your family starve.

Personally if it was a choice between my family starving and some degenerate gambler hanging himself from a lamp post I would go with my family every time.   If it was actually the difference between my family eating and not eating I would even sell him the rope

You’re not alone.

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The strangest thing Dune. Some of us think the industry should be more supportive to the lives it profits from ruining, with problem gamblers.

I mean, nothing strange for me but it’s clear this forum has it’s fair share of people who disagree and they do spend a lot of time being more supportive of the profits and shall we say uncaring for the collateral damage.

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Would you like a job ? Sorry, we’re not hiring.
Do you need a job ? Sorry, we’re not hiring.
Are you out of your mind desperate and will do anything for a few quid ? You’re hired.

At no point am I blaming the CS for any possible corruption (It’s like I haven’t said it) but…..

Oh now you have the job, you have to do some morally reprehensible things otherwise you lose said job and you and your family starve.

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Well, I saw corruption in one of the videos as that blackjack card flick is undeniable. Was he working on his own and if he was, what does he possibly gain ? I can’t see his own inner motive. The only possible I can think of is the player was rude to him on live chat so payback came. Who knows ? Definitely card fixing.

So no, the op who presented this as conspiracy theory, isn’t 100% full of ish.

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I have to support this being anti capitalist but the logic is quite simple.

What the FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF is the point in one person winning trillions while everyone else gets nothing after putting in as much effort. Yes, cap the max win. Bin the 1.6m jackpots. Prove it’s about that fun that many times, doesn’t even feckin start.

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Biohazard wrote:

Can corruption in this industry happen? Absolutely.
On this very page.

Apologies Bio, on reflection I read that but I am illegally multitasking issues and have been all day aside from being tired.

Risk and reward is a viable argument I agree but not conclusive enough to say it doesn’t, hasn’t or can’t happen. 888 are a corrupt company. They are not a small company. Off the top of my head I don’t know if they have been punished for being corrupt but I do know “the commission” have been alerted to fraud BY 888, whom I personally hate hate hate. This goes back way over a decade when I looked at them with disdain.

Innocent until proven guilty is exactly right. But that doesn’t mean I can’t say some people who’s names start with the letter B are this, or are that, because the word some allows the generalism as long as of course, some are this or that. So IUPG doesn’t fit because we’re talking about the industry as part of society in general.

The industry itself doesn’t give a damn about problem gamblers so it in some way shape or form won’t really mind corruption. I can easily imagine CEOs over beers laughing about how they did the equivalent of “yea, I robbed someones mobile phone in bus depot, hahahaha fuck em”.

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Biohazard wrote:

Mr B, I’m a little confused about why you have quoted me alongside that post?

Obviously corruption exists, who has said it doesn’t? I’m merely providing a counter argument to the examples given by the OP. “Rigged” isn’t the only possible route cause for these events. It’s about time people realised that.

Every time someone feels something is rigged, a set of people jump on them and prove nothing to say something isn’t rigged. They quote law, commissions and basically try to make people feel like they are wrong to suggest such things happen.

You say obviously corruption exists. But you don’t say in the gambling world, just generally. And just because “rigged” isn’t the only option, doesn’t mean it isn’t.

The black jack dealer was (someone said here I think) sacked. He was working to order I reckon. His sleight of hand failed. It is clear he deliberately flicked up the card having tried more than once until he felt it move. That’s my take on it.

The wheel that she tried to spin that stopped like a brake was still on. She was stunned. The guy in the video said it was her fault when maybe it wasn’t, maybe it was the brake operators fault. That looks more than suspicious.

That Seedy concedes that roulette wheels and such have motors (obviously not blaming seedy, that would be stupid) is horrendous if true. They don’t need any form of control. They need to engineered to be smooth and balanced to give the desired random spin which requires no assistance beyond the laws of physics. More weight equals longer spins. Better balance means smoother and longer spins.

Casinomeister lists a whole host of rogue casinos and while I am not saying every casino is playing beyond the house edge, and without evidence to prove there is, or isn’t, it is equally wrong to say (from nowhere) that casino is corrupt or indeed that casino isn’t corrupt.

I’m certainly not buying this bullshit excuse (was it argyl who said it?) that because a casino is bigger, it is somehow less likely to be corrupt.

And could the gov.commission be turning a blind eye in some way shape or form  as someone has said already ? I would suffer no form of shock if it was.

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Biohazard wrote:

No, I’m not naive at all. I’m a realist, always have been.

This one is 100% rigged. There’s no question about it.

It’s statements like this that make debates on this forum quite often impossible.

Open your mind, see both sides and provide the corresponding evidence if you actually want to have an intellectual debate on this topic.

Let me introduce you to Joe.

Joe started out life as a pretty good egg, cared for his siblings, friends and parents. Until one day he seemingly got in with the wrong crowd and his life path changed dramatically. He got hooked on an known addiction (doesn’t matter which really does it ?) and committed crime to fund it. Inevitably he ended up in trouble with the law, getting cautions, fines, community service and eventually jail. He then went on to be jailed 4 more times until present day. He has been collared for no less than 12 crimes over 4 years.

And we’re all supposed to believe he only committed 12 crimes.

I made that story up. But it reflects the lack of yearning for the corrupt to admit to every wrong doing they have committed.

There is almost certainly a lot more corruption in the gambling industry than we find out about. I feel to think that to be wrong, is incredibly naive. I mean, what industry, sector or type of business doesn’t have corruption ? Everything except the gambling industry and it’s £14b pa payload.

And I said that with an open mind. Honestly, butter wouldn’t melt.

 

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Seedy wrote:

Mr B wrote:

Seedy wrote:

Ste still hasn’t managed a wildline on the original DoA

 

I want to pmsl but neither have i. I take you have, ya bastard

Nope I’ve got about as much luck as a turd in a paper bag tossed in a canal… ???

I’m both sorry and thankful to hear that as it’s the first time I heard that one. feckin weirdo ! ?

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Seedy wrote:

Ste still hasn’t managed a wildline on the original DoA ????

 

I want to pmsl but neither have i. I take you have, ya bastard

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I’m sure it wouldn’t matter mate. It’s to do with centrifugal force. An added weight would make it spin longer with added momentum/inertia or something along those lines. The balance means it’s not fighting gravity in a similar way a lift has a counter weight so they are easy to move as opposed to the motor having to carry the whole weight of the lift.

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Yea, and they did move the goalposts when it came to homelessness. I forget now how they did it but it was unacceptable to me and many who support the homeless. So we’re still left with no trustworthy source and in the most part find it doesn’t matter anyway because we all know there is suffering from gambling, lives ruined, families ruined and so on. I’m still not letting go of the crime funded gambling either.

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Seedy wrote:

The perpetual motor was on the big wheel like dreamcatcher I don’t think roulette needs it as it’s from a maths point of view in favour of the house anyways.

Ah yes… but sort of no. Any idea why the big wheel would need assistance or control ? given it’s easily a weighted and balanced wheel, like the roulette wheel, it needs nothing as far as I am thinking. That failed spin is a ruin for the industry in my book.

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Winningbird wrote:

Well said. I’ve seen the ‘see you next Tuesday’ word more times this week than I’ve ever heard it ?

What, you mean none of them turned up ? lmao

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