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Well matey don’t do yourself down. Gambling addiction is one of the hardest to beat and you are doing it. The Bandit videos may help substitute for the fix, but it’s you that’s turning yourself around. Be proud 🙂
A limitless supply of money? I don’t know where the hell he got that idea from :). It’s the fact you don’t have shitloads that makes the Reel King videos so stressful. But it’s always great when you bring ’em back into profit 🙂
Yeah that “we” business really irritates me too. Labowsky is the worst for it. False as fuck.
1I have to say, there have been so many times when I wanted to let rip at JB, not for his wacky views, but for his attention seeking behaviour. But it does seem you need the forum more than any of us, and I have to confess your ridiculousness does make the it more interesting… in a way.
Well played. You managed to make me feel insignificant, lonely and retarded at the same time.
Bravo
Okay JB enough of the silence. I’m sorry, it was a thoughtless thing for me to say. I genuinely apologise, unreservedly mate. I can be a prick sometimes and yes, having suffered a lifetime of abuse know exactly how to press the right buttons. I can, in the words of the bard, “be a right twat”.
So come back out of your shell and carry on being the dick that you truly are. Fly the flag of ridiculous, carry the banner of stupidity and entertain us with your bonkers views. We all love you baby, and I would really hate to think I’ve upset you.
You shouldn’t pay any heed to the views of a stupid old fart like me.
21I have to say, there have been so many times when I wanted to let rip at JB, not for his wacky views, but for his attention seeking behaviour. But it does seem you need the forum more than any of us, and I have to confess your ridiculousness does make the it more interesting… in a way.
@awesomex And here I was trying to be conciliatory and humble. But I won’t be bated mate. If you really had an IQ of 180 we would be separated by 4 standard deviations. In other words, you wouldn’t bother with me and my fellow knuckle-dragging idiots on this forum. Of course I could be wrong (it happens all the time) and would be most interested to see evidence of your extraordinary claim. Shouldn’t be too hard to scan in your proof :).
@PsychicSnail my intuitive suspicion would be that as has been suggested, it’s a mix of real and fake where he’s making low real cash deposits and getting huge, unrealistic bonus amounts on them no ordinary player would get.
From what I’ve heard, only 5% of the deposit is actually Roshtein’s money. I also heard he had a max cashout, but let’s forget that one for a moment and pretend he doesn’t have a max cashout.
That means his 2000 euro deposit is really a 100 euro deposit. And when he wins 50k it’s actually 2.5k. This sounds WAAAAAAY more likely and affordable to me.
However, that wouldn’t draw the customers/viewers. His huge bets do that. 50 euro bets is more like 2.5 euro bets if this is the case, and puts his stakes at a pretty bang on average stake.This sounds like a very likely possibility if you ask me.
I would agree that given everything you have said, this is the most likely scenario.
I also agree that, if true, it’s not something that should be allowed to happen. There are vulnerable people who will think they can emulate his “success”. Still, that’s not something we can fix here.
@awesomex You make a compelling argument. I can confidently say you will never meet a more honest man than me. Although I attempt to exercise scepticism, I am by nature a trusting sort. Gullible perhaps.
No one likes to shown to be wrong, even on an anonymous pubic forum, but yes, it seems that I could well be wrong. It doesn’t mean I believe you have an IQ of 180 though, I’m not that damn gullible! :).
1Yeah, shocking as this might seem based on other threads where we’ve both interacted, I very much agree with awesomex on this one and I think it’s a red herring for people to be saying oh show me this absolute proof that he’s fake. Roshstein could release a video on his channel where he admitted it’s all fake and you could still argue that technically, it’s not proof he’s fake, it’s just proof he released a video in which he said he was.
It goes back to what I’ve said on this forum repeatedly in recent days; making up your mind is about critical thinking, the objective analysis of the evidence available to you to come to a conclusion. For me, the pertinent evidence in respect of Roshstein is that he never plays on or is affiliated with reputable casinos covered by the UK licence (I use this as a benchmark of casinos standards because our regulations are so stringent), comes across on his videos in a manner I would describe as theatrical and unlike any streamer I know to be genuine particularly in respect of losses, plays at frequencies, balances and stakes which if genuine experience tells me would require close to a seven figure bankroll to maintain and appears (as awesomex pointed out) to be followed by bots on YT.
Is any of that “absolute proof”? Of course not, but it definitely smells dodgy and that’s enough for me to give him a wide berth.
@argyl53 We are on the same page. We would probably both agree that the proof required in order to believe a proposition is directly proportional to it’s importance and plausibility. So if any streamer fessed up to being fake I would believe them. Saying Roshtein is fake is not an extraordinary claim, therefore the level of required evidence is actually fairly low.
So it frustrates me that despite some quite dogmatic opinions and promises, little in the way of compelling evidence is forthcoming. <span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>I was only asking for proof because Mr 180 IQ said he had it. </span>
Personally I waver on this one. I don’t think there’s sufficient evidence to call the chap out, but what you and Mr IQ say is right, it does smell a bit.
@awesomex Ok, that’s circumstantial, not irrefutable evidence. It falls far short of the proof you were talking about.
Nevertheless, let’s look at that. First off, Roshtein loses far more often that he cashes out. I have no figures, but just from my viewing I would say over the past couple of months he is probably breaking even. The DoA win was non bonus money btw.
Following one of his latest cashouts, the N1 casino raised his wager requirements from 30 to 35x. It seems they did the math and wanted to tilt the odds back in their favour. I wonder why they would do this if it was casino money.
So unless you can counter this, I would appreciate the proof you were talking about. Proof that “Roshtein has been proven to be fake on so many occasions, yet nobody seems to remember it”.
Do I buy into the way he behaves? Sure. He’s providing entertainment and at least partly acts that way to entertain the viewers. He puts on a very slick performance and that’s why he has a massive viewing audience. Always on camera for the big wins? Not true. I’ve seen him hit big wins when he’s afk on autospin. The fact that he isn’t like any other streamer is the thing that makes him popular.
For someone with an IQ of 180, I’m amazed that your opinions are so subjective. It’s not a trait usually found amongst those in the gifted category.
Yeah, if you believe his bad acting shows he’s real, you’re buying into the act. Roshtein has been proven to be fake on so many occasions, yet nobody seems to remember it.
Like someone mentioned earlier – Anyone can learn to scream for big wins, it’s how they react when they lose tons that’s impossible to fake. When you lose your bankroll on a tilt day, or you made a good profit and the bug was still there and you ended up ripping, or you chased your losses and felt like shit after. so much so that if you were a streamer you wouldn’t even bother saying “see you next time”, you’d just turn your shit off and try to go to sleep or some shit. You don’t feel like talking to anyone and you just feel like a complete mess. Cus many of us have been there at some point.
Let’s look at it from another point of view – Roshtein has supposedly made 15k deposits a day chasing the DoA2 win, which means he risked more than the average annual salary on Malta each day.
Here’s a task for you: Go to Roshtein’s twitch channel right now, then his youtube channel – Look at the amount of viewers he’s got, then look at how slow the chat is moving. 5000 viewers on twitch – 1 new chat line every 2-3 seconds. Youtube: 1100 viewers – 1 chat line per 20 seconds. Then you go to someone else who’s got that many viewers and check how fast the chat moves for them. Smells like viewbotting to me
IQ of 180. I’ve shit better!
Stop twisting my words and show me this proof please. If he has been proved to be a fake on so many occasions then please show me one single instance. Just a one undeniable piece of evidence that he is fake. Not slow chat, gut feelings, intuition, bad acting, or appeals to the supernatural. I have an open mind and can easily be convinced with evidence.
Posting casino screenshots of deposits or withdrawals doesn’t prove shit unless it’s a major reputable casino such as Casumo which we can be sure isn’t giving certain affiliates dummy accounts the casino itself is funding. You show me withdrawals on Casumo, I’ll accept you’re genuine, but some no-name dodgy casino outside UKGC regulation? No. Doesn’t convince me it’s not fake.
On the other hand, I don’t think it’s actually on streamers to prove to any viewer’s satisfaction that they’re genuine, rather it is on us as viewers and players to decode who we trust, just like it is when we sign up with a casino, and to not watch the streamers we don’t trust. I don’t trust Roshstein or the casinos he promotes, simple as that. You can learn to act and fake the excitement of big wins, but faking the crushing disappointment of a big loss is much harder.
I agree with all of this, apart from I don’t share your distrust of Roshtein. I would urge you to take a look at that DoA win and study his reactions. If he can fake that he’s in the wrong job.
Really, you buy the over the top screaming from Roshtein..? Have you noticed how Roshtein never leaves the camera view? He’s always in view of the camera on his big wins. He doesn’t step aside and take a deep breath like every single other streamer seems to do. He is fully aware of where the camera is pointing, and he never leaves it’s view. He’s an actor fit for your local soap, that’s about it.
Do I buy into the way he behaves? Sure. He’s providing entertainment and at least partly acts that way to entertain the viewers. He puts on a very slick performance and that’s why he has a massive viewing audience. Always on camera for the big wins? Not true. I’ve seen him hit big wins when he’s afk on autospin. The fact that he isn’t like any other streamer is the thing that makes him popular.
For someone with an IQ of 180, I’m amazed that your opinions are so subjective. It’s not a trait usually found amongst those in the gifted category.
He shows his skrill payments, but that doesn’t prove anything IMO. His audience is basically gullible punters who don’t understand the intricacies of casino’s and how they make their money. Not sure if he promotes any UKGC licensed casinos, but if he does they should look into his promotional activity.
I used to work for a financial services firm that was authorised in the UK. Anything that was used to sell a product was classed as a financial inducement by the FCA. That could be marketing literature, social media commentary a website with links etc etc.
Exactly the same principle should apply to streamers, they should have a fit and proper test by the casinos to allow representation. All financial audit trails should also be disclosed to UKGC to prove casinos are not simply planting people with fake money. Somehow I suspect UKGC doesn’t have the same bite as the FCA, they should do though given the amount of money involved.
What intricacies are you talking about mate? Surely it’s fairly straight forward. Casinos host games that give them a decent edge, people play, lose money and the casinos get rich. Am I missing something?
So let’s just summarise. If he posts his transactions, they’re no good as it’s skrill. If it wasn’t skrill they wouldn’t be any good because they could be photo-shopped. If they weren’t photo-shopped, they wouldn’t be good because they could be dummy accounts. If they aren’t dummy accounts it would be no good because the casinos aren’t trusted.
So I am forced to ask again. What proof would be sufficient? If there isn’t any, can we stop slagging people off without evidence please?
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