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argyl53 wrote:

Posting casino screenshots of deposits or withdrawals doesn’t prove shit unless it’s a major reputable casino such as Casumo which we can be sure isn’t giving certain affiliates dummy accounts the casino itself is funding. You show me withdrawals on Casumo, I’ll accept you’re genuine, but some no-name dodgy casino outside UKGC regulation? No. Doesn’t convince me it’s not fake.

On the other hand, I don’t think it’s actually on streamers to prove to any viewer’s satisfaction that they’re genuine, rather it is on us as viewers and players to decode who we trust, just like it is when we sign up with a casino, and to not watch the streamers we don’t trust. I don’t trust Roshstein or the casinos he promotes, simple as that. You can learn to act and fake the excitement of big wins, but faking the crushing disappointment of a big loss is much harder.

I agree with all of this, apart from I don’t share your distrust of Roshtein. I would urge you to take a look at that DoA win and study his reactions. If he can fake that he’s in the wrong job.

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Also I would like to ask this. What proof can a streamer provide, to demonstrate beyond any doubt, that he is genuine? I would be willing to bet that it wouldn’t matter what Roshtein, or any other streamer, put out, there would still be people doubting.

It seems to me it’s a bit like God. You can’t prove he exists, you cant prove he doesn’t. We all know you will never convince a believer or an atheist they’re wrong, no matter what you say. It’s futile.

So in the absence of any way to demonstrate, beyond doubt, the voracity of a streamer, I think any speculation is a total waste of time.

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awesomex wrote:

slottinggooner wrote:

The real can of worms though is Roshtein, he still has to prove he is legit. I don’t even follow aussie streamers.

Roshtein can’t prove it. He’s the fakest streamer of them all. It amazes me that he’s got such a big audience.

As it happens I posted on Roshein’s forum for proof of his transaction history. His “proof” post is six months old which I found unacceptable. Within five minutes he posted his transactions for the day, which matched perfectly with his activity.

I have watched a lot of his streams and he does show transactions. Also at the end of last night’s stream he did the same. Again everything matched. I don’t know what else he can do to convince people.

Also his reactions to wins are genuine. Watch the 80k win video on DoA. You can’t fake that. I was extremely sceptical to start with, but I am now as convinced as I can be that he’s actually pucker.

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@Just Basics. This video is actually something that Rolla has been threatening to do for at least a year. He’s referred a lot to fake streamers in the past, although has never named anyone specifically until now. If you had been paying attention to his streams you will have known this. It’s not something that has suddenly happened and nothing fishy is going on.

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Have watched Davo’s response video and it seems fair.

He says he will send all the proof Rolla will need to confirm his credibility. Now if he does this and it’s convincing, then Paul will definitely post retractions all over the shop. He’s a fair bloke and will do everything he can to undo any damage that his original accusations have caused. Any speculation prior to that is futile. So let’s just wait and see.

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@Dynamik23 Totally agree matey. In fact over the long term a casino should be able to predict, fairly accurately, exactly how much they are going to profit. You take the average betting volume across all games and you know the RTP / casino edge on each game, so the math is trivial. Obviously there will be short term variations due to whales getting lucky, but over the long term of course the suckers will come back and lose.

It makes no sense to me whatsoever, why most casino would rig their games. I have seen some odd behaviour from dealers e.g. not taking the next available card in blackjack. Possibly a smaller casino would use dirty tactics. But the larger, more established casinos with big bankrolls, that are able to absorb short term fluctuations… well that make no sense.

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Eightblack wrote:

It’s a very interesting video, especially where he plays the recording from the affiliate matey offering him exactly the same shit

It’s a horrendous way to entice people into gambling these casinos need to be publicly named and shamed as they clearly are not interested in responsible gambling

 

 

Fuck those guys man

Yes and it must be very tempting to take such offers. Most streamers lose an absolute fortune on stream e.g. the Bandit before his recent run on Reel King. Also Rolla has often mentioned how much he’s down. On a separate thread I’ve posted the “proof” that Roshtein uses to show his deposits, but this “proof” are screenshots of deposits made 6 months ago – nothing current.

So given the high cost of maintaining regular streams, with average luck and your own cash, it’s hardly surprising that people are tempted. As Rolla says, its often easier to spot the fakes, not when they win, but when they lose. The gut-wrenching feeling and tilt is far harder to fake than excitement over a big win.

I agree that we all have a personal responsibility, but free casino money allows the streamer to play more aggressively, and when they win, it gives the impression that we can all do the same. It’s a bit like waving a whiskey bottle under the nose of an alcoholic.

Morally it’s wrong, but for me the only real crime is that the casinos don’t promote responsible gambling. It’s hardly a surprise. It’s big money and corruption is rife.

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With a second look though these deposits are from months ago 🙁

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Ok chaps, so I took on board what everyone has said about Roshtein’s credibility. But still I doubted that my own judgement could be so flawed. Here is his transaction history on casinos he plays, showing his deposits and withdraws. https://imgur.com/a/MafVwf7. Can this stuff easily be faked or is it more likely that he is legit?

I always consider what is more probable and it seems to me the balance is swinging in the legit direction.

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My misses wants some new roof conservatory blinds. Had it measured up today and it’s going to cost £1500. If anyone fancies paying for them then that would be great 🙂 Also the car is getting a bit old so another £5k for a decent second hand motor would also be cool. Plus my pension fund is a bit light too. And I’ve only had one holiday so far this year. Let’s just make it a nice round £50k.

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@Kingpab. No matey. What you say sounds good, but with a moment’s thought, it’s nonsense. You may respect my opinions, but I am under no obligation to respect yours. I can respect your right to believe whatever rubbish you want, and I do. But please don’t think that I should respect the beliefs themselves. That very idea underpins a great deal of what is wrong with the world at the moment, and it’s barking mad. And so by the way is David Icke.

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@LIberty Totally agree with that last post.

@Just Basics. Liberty wasn’t having a go at you personally. He was just pointing out some of the common traits of people who hold largely unsubstantiated world views. The religious are a good example of this, as within each belief is often the feeling they have a “truth” which will guarantee them eternal life and happiness, and those who don’t have it are somehow missing out on the grand prize. They all belong to the same “club”.

He is also correct when he says that you both need to challenge shite ideas when you find them and also challenge your own belief systems, whether they be religious or some daft conspiracy theory. In my experience, as a general rule, if you believe something because it just “feels right” from your limited perception of events, it’s often wrong. You may feel that God is real, the earth is flat, that global warming is hyped or that the slots are rigged because you’ve seen some compelling pattern of events.

If you don’t challenge yourself and stick dogmatically to your beliefs you will fail to learn. In short, others will view you as ignorant. In fact it’s almost the definition of ignorance.

Now that isn’t to say it’s wrong to propose some wacky view. At one time everyone was convinced the sun orbited the earth, until some wacky chap proposed otherwise and look at the trouble he got into with the church. But the thing is, his proposal was based on actual evidence. If someone had come along with evidence that he was wrong, he would have abandoned his wacky idea without hesitation.

You really should stop looking at everyone’s posts as an attack on you personally (as with Liberty’s post). I hope you don’t do this IRL, as generally, people are just expressing their opinions and you are far from their thoughts. You have to accept you just aren’t that important.

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@Tricky. Well I think a certain forum poster may have exaggerated his IQ by …. well lt’s say 80 points to be generous 🙂

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@Tricky I think a certain poster may have exaggerated his IQ by about … well let’s say 80 points to be generous 🙂

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I hesitate to write this as it’s such an emotive topic, so be careful in reading this so not to get the wrong idea.

I think paedophilia probably is a sexual orientation, and must be a terrible burden for those afflicted. An illness can in theory be cured and I suspect these people can’t be cured. Now this is the clincher for me.

I suspect many paedophiles keep their feelings a secret and don’t act on them, but those who do (pederasts), will always be a threat, until they are no longer capable of acting on their urges. Locking them up for 10 years won’t change that. They cannot be cured, rehabilitated or re-educated. And besides, a big part of me thinks “why take the risk?”. For me a bullet would be the best “cure” and I would be happy to administer it. But maybe that would be a bit radical :).

It’s easy to think they are ill, as we find it hard to accept that anyone could be like this “naturally”. But sexuality is a broad multi-dimensional spectrum. So why should paedophilia be different? Just because it’s abhorrent? Go down that road and some will say that being gay is an illness, and thankfully most of us have overcome such ignorance.

I have an open mind and would be pleased to be corrected on what I have said if anyone has any evidence to the contrary. Please don’t flame me for this. I am in no way defending them, and don’t think the world could ever get so mad as to consider them part of the norm.

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